"Firms wary about hiring public sector staff"

"Firms wary about hiring public sector staff"

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whoami

13,151 posts

241 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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bosscerbera said:
Economics failure.
yes

Randy Winkman

16,331 posts

190 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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AndrewW-G said:
Members of the public are the customers of the "civil" service, the only difference between being a PAYING customer of a shop from the public sector, is that with the shop you have the option of shopping elsewhere . . .
The Civil Service works for the Government, not the public.

bosscerbera

8,188 posts

244 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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Randy Winkman said:
The Civil Service works for the Government, not the public.
And... who pays for the government...?

tinman0

18,231 posts

241 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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Randy Winkman said:
AndrewW-G said:
Members of the public are the customers of the "civil" service, the only difference between being a PAYING customer of a shop from the public sector, is that with the shop you have the option of shopping elsewhere . . .
The Civil Service works for the Government, not the public.
That's why they see themselves as untouchable! There is absolutely no concept of who they work for.

Today's ruse; fining people who have an uninsured car on the driveway. Remember, everyone is guilty unless proven innocent.

Johnnytheboy

Original Poster:

24,498 posts

187 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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MonkeyHanger said:
It seems a bit short-sighted for an IT Support co to site themselves in a building without easy access to Switch rooms....
They'd probably previously shared with someone cooperative and didn't imagine in their wildest dreams that anyone could be so unhelpful.

Sticks.

8,810 posts

252 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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tinman0 said:
That's why they see themselves as untouchable! There is absolutely no concept of who they work for.

Today's ruse; fining people who have an uninsured car on the driveway. Remember, everyone is guilty unless proven innocent.
Evidence that they work for the government then. Unless that insurance rule was your idea.

Countdown

40,068 posts

197 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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bosscerbera said:
Randy Winkman said:
The Civil Service works for the Government, not the public.
And... who pays for the government...?
Ok - we work for you. Why don't you go ahead and sack us?



tumbleweed


Ash333

183 posts

165 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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Had a guy start with us a few weeks ago, with a few others. He'd been laid off as a road repairer.
I was helping run the training for the new faces.
He stood out initially for one main reason:

He couldn't read.


FFS, how the fk am I supposed to go though a training manual if the trainees can't fking read?
He didn't last long. Shame, he was a nice guy.

mph1977

12,467 posts

169 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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AndrewW-G said:
Members of the public are the customers of the "civil" service, the only difference between being a PAYING customer of a shop from the public sector, is that with the shop you have the option of shopping elsewhere . . .
civil as in not military ...

tinman0

18,231 posts

241 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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Countdown said:
bosscerbera said:
Randy Winkman said:
The Civil Service works for the Government, not the public.
And... who pays for the government...?
Ok - we work for you. Why don't you go ahead and sack us?



tumbleweed
We're trying. You bankrupted us.

Sticks.

8,810 posts

252 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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tinman0 said:
We're trying. You bankrupted us.
Think you're muddling govt and pub sec.

Countdown

40,068 posts

197 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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tinman0 said:
Countdown said:
bosscerbera said:
Randy Winkman said:
The Civil Service works for the Government, not the public.
And... who pays for the government...?
Ok - we work for you. Why don't you go ahead and sack us?



tumbleweed
We're trying. You bankrupted us.
No. You employed us. Then the tax receipts dried up. Now you're up a certain creek without a certain paddle you need to cut back on us. It was your numpty mismanagement of the Economy and letting the bankers trough away (amongst other things). After all, as you keep saying, you're our paymasters.

mph1977

12,467 posts

169 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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tinman0 said:
We're trying. You bankrupted us.
Bliar and Bottler bankrupted us ...

Bottler's line about abolishing boom and bust is a line that in the future will be considered to have taken Michael Fish's crown for bloopers...

Mojooo

12,783 posts

181 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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I bet public sector staff love serving Tinman.

You just KNOW he is one of those people

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

218 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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Countdown said:
tinman0 said:
Countdown said:
bosscerbera said:
Randy Winkman said:
The Civil Service works for the Government, not the public.
And... who pays for the government...?
Ok - we work for you. Why don't you go ahead and sack us?



tumbleweed
We're trying. You bankrupted us.
No. You employed us.
No your employers employed you, we the public are you customers . . . . and the customer is always right!

tinman0

18,231 posts

241 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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Mojooo said:
I bet public sector staff love serving Tinman.

You just KNOW he is one of those people
Not at all. I talk to anyone, whether they are public or private employees with respect. It's called 'good manners'. Costs nothing wink HTH

(Unless they are a prat, and then I'll treat them with with the disdain they deserve.)

(Except traffic wardens. I treat all of them with disdain from the word go.)


Guybrush

4,358 posts

207 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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Countdown said:
No. You employed us. Then the tax receipts dried up. Now you're up a certain creek without a certain paddle you need to cut back on us. It was your numpty mismanagement of the Economy and letting the bankers trough away (amongst other things). After all, as you keep saying, you're our paymasters.
It was Labour who 'manufactured' too many public sector jobs, relying on the hammered private sector to finance them. Labour was spending more than they were receiving even at the height of their tax income. The banks lent money to people who wanted to borrow - OK many people were stupid and borrowed too much.

Countdown

40,068 posts

197 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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tinman0 said:
Not at all. I talk to anyone, whether they are public or private employees with respect. It's called 'good manners'. Costs nothing wink HTH

(Unless they are a prat, and then I'll treat them with with the disdain they deserve.)
Same as me then smile

And guess which category I put them in if they spout rubbish like "I pay your wages" ?

Countdown

40,068 posts

197 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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Guybrush said:
Countdown said:
No. You employed us. Then the tax receipts dried up. Now you're up a certain creek without a certain paddle you need to cut back on us. It was your numpty mismanagement of the Economy and letting the bankers trough away (amongst other things). After all, as you keep saying, you're our paymasters.
It was Labour who 'manufactured' too many public sector jobs, relying on the hammered private sector to finance them. Labour was spending more than they were receiving even at the height of their tax income. The banks lent money to people who wanted to borrow - OK many people were stupid and borrowed too much.
The "Govt" isn't the Public Sector. I struggle to see how the current situation is the fault of public sector employees. "We" didn't bankrupt the economy (as Tinman says). Wheteher or not you/the Govt/ the general public can afford us is a different matter.

Its a bit like employing somebody to redecorate your house and then blaming him when you don't have enough money to pay him.

whoami

13,151 posts

241 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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Countdown said:
Its a bit like employing somebody to redecorate your house and then blaming him when you don't have enough money to pay him.
That's fair enough.

However, surely now that it is evident that we do not have enough money to pay the "decorators" then getting rid of them should raise no complaints?

Oh, wait.... scratchchin