Balanced Question Time panel tonight - of course not! Vol 3
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Weeeell, he has been head of that racial inequality thing and to be fair to TP, the articles I've read from him - he doesn't shy away from speaking what appear to be uncomfortable truths. Given his background, nobody gets to take any kind of moral highground to accuse him of racism at all.
I tend to agree with many things he says. Whether owt gets done about it is an entirely different kettle of fish!
I tend to agree with many things he says. Whether owt gets done about it is an entirely different kettle of fish!
Cantaloupe said:
Trevor saying London knife crime is a black youth problem, with blacks doing the dying and blacks doing the killing then, if that wasn't incendiary enough he gives rappers a deserved kicking too for disrespecting women.
Cheesy peas, the things you can get away with saying when you're black.
Can you imagine if Laurence Fox had said that!Cheesy peas, the things you can get away with saying when you're black.
Peter911 said:
Cantaloupe said:
Trevor saying London knife crime is a black youth problem, with blacks doing the dying and blacks doing the killing then, if that wasn't incendiary enough he gives rappers a deserved kicking too for disrespecting women.
Cheesy peas, the things you can get away with saying when you're black.
Can you imagine if Laurence Fox had said that!Cheesy peas, the things you can get away with saying when you're black.
It would be racism to say something like “all those stabbings are being done because they’re black”
But not racism to say “black peoples are responsible for the majority of stabbings in London” (assuming that was true of course).
At least that’s how I would interpret it anyway but if there’s a definite legal definition to the contrary I’m happy to be corrected.
Peter911 said:
You would think so. There are lots of observable facts I could quote and people would say they were racist.
Some in regard to gypsys, some in regard to Albanians, some in regard to people in hoodies on BMX etc etc
Context is everything though.Some in regard to gypsys, some in regard to Albanians, some in regard to people in hoodies on BMX etc etc
If it were racist to say or write observable facts as TP did on QT then many other presenters, media, academics etc would also be guilty of it.
The problem is that over time the fear of accusations of racism has embedded itself so much that people don’t risk anything that might attract such an accusation, the outcomes being things like large scale child abuse in some northern cities etc. going uninvestiaged.
RATATTAK said:
pingu393 said:
nikaiyo2 said:
gooner1 said:
Who has assumed they didn't?
You're correct about the cringe factor your assumption really does drip with ignorance and prejudice.
Now , about this plane......?
You will find being a woke lefty does not preclude the use of private jets.You're correct about the cringe factor your assumption really does drip with ignorance and prejudice.
Now , about this plane......?
We used to fly a very well know socialist “musician” around the U.K. frequently.
Edited by RATATTAK on Thursday 23 January 23:32
steveatesh said:
Is it racism to speak observable facts though?
If you're white and you publicly mention anything remotely related to race, it's going to be called out as racist on Twitter regardless.It seems Twitter will even call out black people as racist when talking about black people.
768 said:
steveatesh said:
Is it racism to speak observable facts though?
If you're white and you publicly mention anything remotely related to race, it's going to be called out as racist on Twitter regardless.It seems Twitter will even call out black people as racist when talking about black people.
steveatesh said:
Peter911 said:
You would think so. There are lots of observable facts I could quote and people would say they were racist.
Some in regard to gypsys, some in regard to Albanians, some in regard to people in hoodies on BMX etc etc
Context is everything though.Some in regard to gypsys, some in regard to Albanians, some in regard to people in hoodies on BMX etc etc
If it were racist to say or write observable facts as TP did on QT then many other presenters, media, academics etc would also be guilty of it.
The problem is that over time the fear of accusations of racism has embedded itself so much that people don’t risk anything that might attract such an accusation, the outcomes being things like large scale child abuse in some northern cities etc. going uninvestiaged.
How have we got to this point?
steveatesh said:
Peter911 said:
You would think so. There are lots of observable facts I could quote and people would say they were racist.
Some in regard to gypsys, some in regard to Albanians, some in regard to people in hoodies on BMX etc etc
Context is everything though.Some in regard to gypsys, some in regard to Albanians, some in regard to people in hoodies on BMX etc etc
If it were racist to say or write observable facts as TP did on QT then many other presenters, media, academics etc would also be guilty of it.
The problem is that over time the fear of accusations of racism has embedded itself so much that people don’t risk anything that might attract such an accusation, the outcomes being things like large scale child abuse in some northern cities etc. going uninvestiaged.
PC has a lot to answer for.
techiedave said:
Emily thinks they shouldn't have had an election.. She is trotting out soundbites instead of answers
her punchline is there is another way, we just dunno what it is
This woman I can see hear I can hear her
Shes talking crap
It is quite amazing how she seems to be so arrogant, condescending, patronizing, irritating, smug looking, and so thoroughly unbelievable all at once!her punchline is there is another way, we just dunno what it is
This woman I can see hear I can hear her
Shes talking crap
I wouldn't trust her with anything any further than I could throw her, and most can guess how microscopic a distance that would be!.
Pan Pan Pan said:
techiedave said:
Emily thinks they shouldn't have had an election.. She is trotting out soundbites instead of answers
her punchline is there is another way, we just dunno what it is
This woman I can see hear I can hear her
Shes talking crap
It is quite amazing how she seems to be so arrogant, condescending, patronizing, irritating, smug looking, and so thoroughly unbelievable all at once!her punchline is there is another way, we just dunno what it is
This woman I can see hear I can hear her
Shes talking crap
I wouldn't trust her with anything any further than I could throw her, and most can guess how microscopic a distance that would be!.
PushedDover said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
techiedave said:
Emily thinks they shouldn't have had an election.. She is trotting out soundbites instead of answers
her punchline is there is another way, we just dunno what it is
This woman I can see hear I can hear her
Shes talking crap
It is quite amazing how she seems to be so arrogant, condescending, patronizing, irritating, smug looking, and so thoroughly unbelievable all at once!her punchline is there is another way, we just dunno what it is
This woman I can see hear I can hear her
Shes talking crap
I wouldn't trust her with anything any further than I could throw her, and most can guess how microscopic a distance that would be!.
This whole Schrodinger's Brexit farce has given Boris a free run for 10 years
Peter911 said:
steveatesh said:
Is it racism to speak observable facts though?
You would think so. There are lots of observable facts I could quote and people would say they were racist.Some in regard to gypsys, some in regard to Albanians, some in regard to people in hoodies on BMX etc etc
bomb said:
bomb said:
Smiler. said:
Trevor Phillips.
That is all.
??? What does that mean ??That is all.
I thought the woman from the refuge made an interesting point, which seemingly went unaddressed.
Thornberry was so transparent, if it wasn't for her droning on, you'd think it was a seance.
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