How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 13)
Discussion
Garvin said:
Farage, who he? 
What I find amusing is those Remainers who were absolutely adamant that May’s deal was actually Brexit but are now stating that Boris’ deal is both a rehash of May’s deal and yet no longer Brexit!
I think the more level headed of all persuasions know that a compromise was always going to be the result whereas the extremists in both tails of the curve will always wail and nash teeth.
The ministry of doublethink is truly in full flow at the moment. Pretty indicative of how incoherent the Remain case has become.What I find amusing is those Remainers who were absolutely adamant that May’s deal was actually Brexit but are now stating that Boris’ deal is both a rehash of May’s deal and yet no longer Brexit!
I think the more level headed of all persuasions know that a compromise was always going to be the result whereas the extremists in both tails of the curve will always wail and nash teeth.
Tuna said:
Garvin said:
Farage, who he?
What I find amusing is those Remainers who were absolutely adamant that May’s deal was actually Brexit but are now stating that Boris’ deal is both a rehash of May’s deal and yet no longer Brexit!
I think the more level headed of all persuasions know that a compromise was always going to be the result whereas the extremists in both tails of the curve will always wail and nash teeth.
The ministry of doublethink is truly in full flow at the moment. Pretty indicative of how incoherent the Remain case has become.What I find amusing is those Remainers who were absolutely adamant that May’s deal was actually Brexit but are now stating that Boris’ deal is both a rehash of May’s deal and yet no longer Brexit!
I think the more level headed of all persuasions know that a compromise was always going to be the result whereas the extremists in both tails of the curve will always wail and nash teeth.
crankedup said:
Sadly yes, the positive news will be from those in business who recognise the political landscape change and get on with development of their business. They will take advantage of new opportunities and continue to prosper. Meanwhile others, ably demonstrated by some in here, will be unable to cope with the change and resort to pointless bleating.
You could make an absolute fortune in consulting if you could let businesses know about the 'new opportunities' and even more if you could advise them how how to capitalise on them. Much more than if you started your own. The company I work for would doubtless pay you a substantial amount of money. crankedup said:
Tuna said:
Garvin said:
Farage, who he?
What I find amusing is those Remainers who were absolutely adamant that May’s deal was actually Brexit but are now stating that Boris’ deal is both a rehash of May’s deal and yet no longer Brexit!
I think the more level headed of all persuasions know that a compromise was always going to be the result whereas the extremists in both tails of the curve will always wail and nash teeth.
The ministry of doublethink is truly in full flow at the moment. Pretty indicative of how incoherent the Remain case has become.What I find amusing is those Remainers who were absolutely adamant that May’s deal was actually Brexit but are now stating that Boris’ deal is both a rehash of May’s deal and yet no longer Brexit!
I think the more level headed of all persuasions know that a compromise was always going to be the result whereas the extremists in both tails of the curve will always wail and nash teeth.
Tuna said:
Garvin said:
Farage, who he?
What I find amusing is those Remainers who were absolutely adamant that May’s deal was actually Brexit but are now stating that Boris’ deal is both a rehash of May’s deal and yet no longer Brexit!
I think the more level headed of all persuasions know that a compromise was always going to be the result whereas the extremists in both tails of the curve will always wail and nash teeth.
The ministry of doublethink is truly in full flow at the moment. Pretty indicative of how incoherent the Remain case has become.What I find amusing is those Remainers who were absolutely adamant that May’s deal was actually Brexit but are now stating that Boris’ deal is both a rehash of May’s deal and yet no longer Brexit!
I think the more level headed of all persuasions know that a compromise was always going to be the result whereas the extremists in both tails of the curve will always wail and nash teeth.
The very worst case of reformed smoker zealot
crankedup said:
FiF said:
EU has written to UK a second time suggesting that UK names a new EU Commissioner. Boris has refused, Steve Baker strongly suggests His Nigelness. 
I wouldn't want to see Vaz disappear from politics altogether. He always provides a bit of light relief.
Camoradi said:
crankedup said:
FiF said:
EU has written to UK a second time suggesting that UK names a new EU Commissioner. Boris has refused, Steve Baker strongly suggests His Nigelness.
I wouldn't want to see Vaz disappear from politics altogether. He always provides a bit of light relief.
richie99 said:
crankedup said:
Sadly yes, the positive news will be from those in business who recognise the political landscape change and get on with development of their business. They will take advantage of new opportunities and continue to prosper. Meanwhile others, ably demonstrated by some in here, will be unable to cope with the change and resort to pointless bleating.
You could make an absolute fortune in consulting if you could let businesses know about the 'new opportunities' and even more if you could advise them how how to capitalise on them. Much more than if you started your own. The company I work for would doubtless pay you a substantial amount of money. What is it that your employers business is involved in?
Elysium said:
crankedup said:
Elysium said:
crankedup said:
p1stonhead said:
crankedup said:
£25 that helps enable an organisation to apply brexit pressure onto the establishment, seems reasonable value for brexiteers Return on investment = brexit.
Not often you see people being taken by a conman over and over and over again.
Next time you pay him, he will definitely do something. He promises.
later directive. The overarching point of importance to these Brexit Party candidates is to ensure brexit actually happens, not a concern over a few quid contributed to TBP. Don’t forget that his followers are apparently the older ‘grey army’ people (like me) that are financially well equipped to help bolster TBP coffers, not to mention some wealthy backer.
Of course you know this but do not wish to acknowledge. Nigel is the Pied Piper of politics.
Seems odd as he appeared to be really keen on it before.
Garvin said:
crankedup said:
The good news is that remainers have now moved onto the reality that U.K. is leaving the EU. Yes it’s taken three years for the notion to sink in, but finally, acceptance.
Not all Remainers, Jo Swinson is resolutely attempting her best King Canute impersonation!She needs to watch out for Brittania and that awesome trident, they don’t like it up’em.
Robertj21a said:
Must be nice for Philip Hammond to get a boardroom appointment less than a week after standing down as an MP. Now joining Ardagh Group, an Irish company listed in the USA. Perhaps they need his expertise on Brexit.
Good luck to him.Having run FCO, MOD and the Exchequer he's no idiot and will be in high demand.
They'll be paying him a truck load too Bob
Brooking10 said:
Robertj21a said:
Must be nice for Philip Hammond to get a boardroom appointment less than a week after standing down as an MP. Now joining Ardagh Group, an Irish company listed in the USA. Perhaps they need his expertise on Brexit.
Good luck to him.Having run FCO, MOD and the Exchequer he's no idiot and will be in high demand.
They'll be paying him a truck load too Bob
crankedup said:
Brooking10 said:
Robertj21a said:
Must be nice for Philip Hammond to get a boardroom appointment less than a week after standing down as an MP. Now joining Ardagh Group, an Irish company listed in the USA. Perhaps they need his expertise on Brexit.
Good luck to him.Having run FCO, MOD and the Exchequer he's no idiot and will be in high demand.
They'll be paying him a truck load too Bob
That's why ex cabinet ministers are usually in such demand.
Brooking10 said:
Erm yes Crankie.
That's why ex cabinet ministers are usually in such demand.
I wouldn't be so sure this time round. That's why ex cabinet ministers are usually in such demand.
The way Whitehall and Westminster work is that cards are informally marked: serious boards will want to see whether the government of the day views them as untouchable before giving them seats on a board. The feeling in the City and in the big infrastructure companies will be that as BJ needs to splash money around, that money should come their way and will fear that it might not be directed to companies housing prominent Remainers/dissidents.
I think Hammond in particular has gone out of his way to be obnoxious to BJ and his colleagues and as he has no great constituency in the Tory party to leap to his defence, he might well be made an example of. No honours, no City sinecures, just the Siberia of non-exec positions of slightly obscure (and largely foreign) companies.
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