Liam Fox and his "advisor"

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ExChrispy Porker

16,956 posts

229 months

Saturday 15th October 2011
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MartyPubes said:
That's cos he ain't even a bender.
Not much to speculate about is there?
It has been common knowledge for years in his constituency.

Deva Link

26,934 posts

246 months

Saturday 15th October 2011
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Huff said:
In reverse order - for all sorts of reasons, none of them personal, I for one am glad the tide *has* turned on sexuality. It's not a material consideration in this case or indeed any other. I think the Grauniad took it as far as they dared this evening when they described Werrity as Fox's 'long -term travelling companion'...
I think the problem is that politicians still often try to cover up their sexual preferences so it leads to distracting speculation. It's never a good thing when people feel they have to hide something, and cover-ups turn into lies and fraud.

Cogcog

11,800 posts

236 months

Saturday 15th October 2011
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nightflight said:
A bit of a shame really, he was actually a good bloke. There aren't many honourable people around these days. I can't imagine a Labour politician resigning like this. They all hung on regardless of what they had done.
Honourable? He must have known that the relationship wasn't right, and then he has tried to duck out until the media nailed him. I think CMD needed to make an example of hiom, and the Conservatives should remove the whip and chuck him out of the party. That might send the right message. 18 months in power and we are starting to see the old boys network emerging.

sparkythecat

7,910 posts

256 months

Saturday 15th October 2011
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Can someone explain to me why Werrity himself is not being hounded by the press?
There's been no footage of him since the story broke. No press statements or comments attributed to him. His biography hasn't been under open media scrutiny. No reporters camped outside his home harangaing him for comments. No comments from friends family or colleagues.

So, WTF is he and why is he apparently escaping personal media attention ?

Superinjunction somewhere or what ?scratchchin

celticpilgrim

1,965 posts

244 months

Saturday 15th October 2011
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I also seem to think that 'honour' has fallen by the wayside for quite some time....regardless of party


All it takes is a public 'I'm sorry' and that is ok is it?

turbobloke

104,179 posts

261 months

Sunday 16th October 2011
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sparkythecat said:
Can someone explain to me why Werrity himself is not being hounded by the press?
There's been no footage of him since the story broke. No press statements or comments attributed to him. His biography hasn't been under open media scrutiny. No reporters camped outside his home harangaing him for comments. No comments from friends family or colleagues.

So, WTF is he and why is he apparently escaping personal media attention ?

Superinjunction somewhere or what ?scratchchin
A Labour MP has contacted the Met about Werritty and possible fraud so a police investigation into his affairs seems inevitable.

frosted

3,549 posts

178 months

Sunday 16th October 2011
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Its all the fault of the BBC , whoever made that statement needs his head examined promptly

Mr Snap

2,364 posts

158 months

Sunday 16th October 2011
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nightflight said:
A bit of a shame really, he was actually a good bloke. There aren't many honourable people around these days. I can't imagine a Labour politician resigning like this. They all hung on regardless of what they had done.
The point is that he wasn't a really good bloke. It now appears he was running a dodgy slush fund in order to promote his own (and some other, pretty shady, foreigner's) political and business interests, using Werritty as a frontman. He was a Secretary of State in the government for fk's sake! He's clearly untrustworthy and shouldn't ever have been placed in a position of power - no matter how great his abilities.

You can't separate his different spheres of interest as if they wouldn't influence each other. Would you defend Peter Sutcliffe on the basis that he was a top notch lorry driver? I doubt it.

And it's got nothing to do with what Labour politicians either did or didn't do. You clearly don't think they deserved the same benefit of the doubt as Fox did. But the CMD told us they weren't going to be corrupt like the last lot. We'll they're acting in exactly the same way as Labour did, they aren't any better. In fact, if this is what they think is trustworthy behaviour, they're even less worthy of out trust.









Derek Smith

45,806 posts

249 months

Sunday 16th October 2011
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The casualness is remarkable. There seems to have been the belief that he was untouchable. There was no real attept to hide it.

Still, the hacking enquiry will come up with laws which will stop this sort of expose and everyone will be happy: corrupt politicians in clover and us in ignorance.

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 16th October 2011
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Derek Smith said:
The casualness is remarkable. There seems to have been the belief that he was untouchable. There was no real attept to hide it.

Still, the hacking enquiry will come up with laws which will stop this sort of expose and everyone will be happy: corrupt politicians in clover and us in ignorance.
Power and money breed contempt and arrogance.

sparkythecat

7,910 posts

256 months

Sunday 16th October 2011
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turbobloke said:
sparkythecat said:
Can someone explain to me why Werrity himself is not being hounded by the press?
There's been no footage of him since the story broke. No press statements or comments attributed to him. His biography hasn't been under open media scrutiny. No reporters camped outside his home harangaing him for comments. No comments from friends family or colleagues.

So, WTF is he and why is he apparently escaping personal media attention ?

Superinjunction somewhere or what ?scratchchin
A Labour MP has contacted the Met about Werritty and possible fraud so a police investigation into his affairs seems inevitable.
The fact that there may be a police investigation into alleged fraud wouldn't preclude the media from doorstepping Werrity and inviting some comment. That there have been no apparent attempts to elicit anything at all from him, his family or his aquaintances appears, in the circumstances fishier than a halibuts ladygarden.


herewego

8,814 posts

214 months

Sunday 16th October 2011
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I'm wondering whether the investigation will involve the other MPs known to be involved in Fox's sham charities, Gove, Osbourne and others.

Mr Snap

2,364 posts

158 months

Monday 17th October 2011
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sparkythecat said:
...fishier than a halibuts ladygarden.

I'll take a large helping of fish sauce with that, thank you...

cardigankid

8,849 posts

213 months

Monday 24th October 2011
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What worries me about Fox and Werrity is that they were promoting conflict with Iran, with or without the assistance/cooperation of Mossad.

DonkeyApple

55,722 posts

170 months

Monday 24th October 2011
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Derek Smith said:
The casualness is remarkable. There seems to have been the belief that he was untouchable. There was no real attept to hide it.

Still, the hacking enquiry will come up with laws which will stop this sort of expose and everyone will be happy: corrupt politicians in clover and us in ignorance.
Indeed. It would seem to imply that there is more of a sense of normality for this kind of behaviour within Parliament than any of us would like to believe.

On the upside, CMD has skillfully removed a potential threat. If he had acted too early then Fox may have escaped full scrutiny and later made a comeback against him. They've certainly allowed enough to come out in the wash so that Fox had to walk and is unlikely to return as a threat.

I doubt there are many MPs who would stand up well if their activities were properly scrutinised. A baffling group of people.

Derek Smith

45,806 posts

249 months

Monday 24th October 2011
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herewego said:
I'm wondering whether the investigation will involve the other MPs known to be involved in Fox's sham charities, Gove, Osbourne and others.
Then don't. I think we all know the answer to that one.

0a

23,906 posts

195 months

Friday 16th December 2011
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Adam Werritty's first article giving his side of the story in The Spectator, worth a read.

http://www.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/7485558/bre...

Olf

11,974 posts

219 months

Friday 16th December 2011
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He'd make a great honarary MP - I can see him falling foul of those terribly complicated second home rules and not being able to remember where he left his confounded receipts.


0a

23,906 posts

195 months

Friday 16th December 2011
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Olf said:
He'd make a great honarary MP - I can see him falling foul of those terribly complicated second home rules and not being able to remember where he left his confounded receipts.
Yes, I did read the article and think "what a load of rubbish" - it's taken him months to spin this up as well.

Pesty

42,655 posts

257 months

Saturday 17th December 2011
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some good comments on there

"As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool to his folly"

I like this, short and to the point, cuts through all that bS nicely.



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