BLAIR, his latest intervention. Should he shut up ?

[alfie2244]

JawKnee said:

I don't like the man but why should any one be shut up? We still live in a democracy in case you forgot.

That is a joke right? Man should be in the ICC at the Hague IMO.

[Deptford Draylons]

JawKnee said:

I don't like the man but why should any one be shut up? We still live in a democracy in case you forgot.

People don't have to shut up about being a remainer and wishing the country hadn't voted to leave. If you are however someone like Farron and Blair ( and a good few on PH ) who don't like the result and wish to perform a stitch-up, then yeah, you might get told to shut up.

[dudleybloke]

The fact that Brexit is upsetting the treasonous cocksucker means the country made the correct choice to leave.

[B'stard Child]

dudleybloke said:

The fact that Brexit is upsetting the treasonous cocksucker means the country made the correct choice to leave.

He and others were one of my 273 reasons to leave (I didn't split them up to individuals)

#reasontoleave66 Remain was endorsed by All living former Prime Ministers of the UK (from both parties)

[JawKnee]

danllama said:

I had LBC on in the work van a few times today, and I honestly don't know how they're allowed to get away with it. Constant brexit bashing, constant criticism and condescension of the brexit voters, constant doom and gloom and scaremongering. Apparently we did in fact, vote brexit, because we thought all the immigrants would be gone tomorrow.

It's beyond a joke. And you can't do anything about it except to sit there and listen, knowing its just a load of bks. They have their own fking national anti-brexit outlets, with no contesting viewpoint unless they choose carefully who shall respond. And we fund this st?? WTF!

Edited by danllama on Friday 17th February 23:48

Boohoo.

We still live in a democracy, they can say what they like. Honestly, why are Brexiters so easily offended and outraged by people with different opinions? Snowflakes.

Edited by JawKnee on Saturday 18th February 01:05

[PurpleAki]

[Stickyfinger]

JawKnee said:

Boohoo.

We still live in a democracy, they can say what they like. Honestly, why are Brexiters so easily offended and outraged by people with different opinions? Snowflakes.

Edited by JawKnee on Saturday 18th February 01:05

Remind me, how are Jezza's public ratings doing again ?
Even Blair has a higher rate of approval.....and he is known world wide as a grade A weasel

[danllama]

JawKnee said:

Boohoo.

We still live in a democracy, they can say what they like. Honestly, why are Brexiters so easily offended and outraged by people with different opinions? Snowflakes.

Edited by JawKnee on Saturday 18th February 01:05

I can't even be bothered to entertain you, pathetic little boy.

[anonymous-user]

JawKnee said:

danllama said:

I had LBC on in the work van a few times today, and I honestly don't know how they're allowed to get away with it. Constant brexit bashing, constant criticism and condescension of the brexit voters, constant doom and gloom and scaremongering. Apparently we did in fact, vote brexit, because we thought all the immigrants would be gone tomorrow.

It's beyond a joke. And you can't do anything about it except to sit there and listen, knowing its just a load of bks. They have their own fking national anti-brexit outlets, with no contesting viewpoint unless they choose carefully who shall respond. And we fund this st?? WTF!

Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 17th February 23:48

Boohoo.

We still live in a democracy, they can say what they like. Honestly, why are Brexiters so easily offended and outraged by people with different opinions? Snowflakes.

Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 18th February 01:05

Why do remainers constantly bleat on about the decision to leave and still appear to believe we live in a democracy. I appreciate that you are particularly hard of thinking, Jawknee, but it does appear a common lack of understanding.

[e600]

I didn't think it possible that Mr Blair could make himself any less popular, he appears to have proven me wrong. Congratulations.

Ps. Why isn't he in prison somewhere?

[turbobloke]

The Guardian has covered Labour Party angst over Blair's latest self-promoting PR stunt.

Labour MPs challenge Tony Blair over Brexit comments

Former PM’s speech, in which he says party allowed Brexit vote to happen, viewed as unhelpful before byelections

Labour MPs challenge Tony Blair over Brexit comments

[V8 Fettler]

Blair must realise that he is regarded as poisonous by many people.

[WinstonWolf]

JawKnee said:

danllama said:

I had LBC on in the work van a few times today, and I honestly don't know how they're allowed to get away with it. Constant brexit bashing, constant criticism and condescension of the brexit voters, constant doom and gloom and scaremongering. Apparently we did in fact, vote brexit, because we thought all the immigrants would be gone tomorrow.

It's beyond a joke. And you can't do anything about it except to sit there and listen, knowing its just a load of bks. They have their own fking national anti-brexit outlets, with no contesting viewpoint unless they choose carefully who shall respond. And we fund this st?? WTF!

Edited by danllama on Friday 17th February 23:48

Boohoo.

We still live in a democracy, they can say what they like. Honestly, why are Brexiters so easily offended and outraged by people with different opinions? Snowflakes.

Edited by JawKnee on Saturday 18th February 01:05

Why are you so outraged by his opinion you precious snowflake.

[anonymous-user]

Deptford Draylons said:

JawKnee said:

I don't like the man but why should any one be shut up? We still live in a democracy in case you forgot.

People don't have to shut up about being a remainer and wishing the country hadn't voted to leave. If you are however someone like Farron and Blair ( and a good few on PH ) who don't like the result and wish to perform a stitch-up, then yeah, you might get told to shut up.

There is a lot of support for people like Blair & Farron.
It may have escaped your attention, but the anti brexit LDs gave the conservatives a pasting in a recent byelection & came close in the other. On the back of being the anti brexit alternative

[PurpleAki]

V8 Fettler said:

Blair must realise that he is regarded as poisonous by many people.

But that's just it, he doesn't.

In his head he is God's apostle showing us the way. Leading us into the light.

He should be sectioned.

[0000]

JawKnee said:

I don't like the man but why should any one be shut up? We still live in a democracy in case you forgot.

Because he's had his democratic say on this.

It turns out, again, that he thinks his one vote is more important than the next persons. Anything else he wants to say from a public platform about changing the result is anti-democratic and while he's free to say it (albeit it should be from a 6' concrete walled room) others are entitled to say he can stick it because only extremists want to hear it.

[Derek Smith]

Yipper said:

Love or hate him, Blair is one of the most skilled "politicians" of all time. No matter how good or bad the question, he just keeps on smiling and answering confidently with neutralising words or skirt-around phrases. He has lost his semi-youthful looks and energy, so his impact now on Brexit will be marginal at best, but that won't stop him trying to stir the pot or act like a messiah.

There was a good riposte earlier from Boris Johnson:

"I urge the British people to rise up and turn off the TV next time Blair comes on with his condescending campaign"...

Indeed. It is dangerous to underrate Blair. The vote is done and dusted. It will proceed. So why is he stirring things? If he is putting himself forward it is for a reason, and one that will he reckons will give him an advantage. It can't be just the 'I told you so' if there are major setbacks in the negotiations. That seems too simple.

I have no idea what he's trying for, not yet anyway, but we'll discover. There's a chance it might not be something about the UK but more for the EU. A nice little earner there for him?

You quote Johnson. Blair and Johnson are similar in many ways. They are both populists, they are utterly selfish, both seem happy to tell outright lies, both seem immune from the consequences. Johnson hasn't started an illegal war, but give him time. After all, he's in the right job for it.

[FiF]

Derek Smith said:

Yipper said:

Love or hate him, Blair is one of the most skilled "politicians" of all time. No matter how good or bad the question, he just keeps on smiling and answering confidently with neutralising words or skirt-around phrases. He has lost his semi-youthful looks and energy, so his impact now on Brexit will be marginal at best, but that won't stop him trying to stir the pot or act like a messiah.

There was a good riposte earlier from Boris Johnson:

"I urge the British people to rise up and turn off the TV next time Blair comes on with his condescending campaign"...

Indeed. It is dangerous to underrate Blair. The vote is done and dusted. It will proceed. So why is he stirring things? If he is putting himself forward it is for a reason, and one that will he reckons will give him an advantage. It can't be just the 'I told you so' if there are major setbacks in the negotiations. That seems too simple.

I have no idea what he's trying for, not yet anyway, but we'll discover. There's a chance it might not be something about the UK but more for the EU. A nice little earner there for him?

You quote Johnson. Blair and Johnson are similar in many ways. They are both populists, they are utterly selfish, both seem happy to tell outright lies, both seem immune from the consequences. Johnson hasn't started an illegal war, but give him time. After all, he's in the right job for it.

Re Blair, I agree, he's putting his head above the parapet towards furthering his own interests in the long term. What could be right or wrong for the nation is second or even third fiddle to that.

[johnxjsc1985]

I just hope for all our sake Cherie doesn't make an appearance it might just send Techiedave over the edge.

[Talksteer]

Rovinghawk said:

Vocal Minority said:

I don't think it was the right decision......... it's happened......... we need to get on with it.

I respect that attitude.

I presume because you voted out.

The current situation where we appear to be gearing up for the most devisive possible BREXIT after a referendum which was slimly won by one side is pretty anti democratic.

It is happening because of the lack of an opposition means that the greatest political threat to the government is from its own hardliners and their press.

As an example we are heading towards an economically damaging hard BREXIT to enable the UK to "take back control" on immigration.

If we look at polls on that most of the population minimally support that, however if you look at further polls of "how much are you willing to pay for control of immigration" the answer is nothing or very very little. Hence we should probably be heading for a Norway/Switzerland type agreement.

Given the lack of broad support for leaving the EU and the lack of an opposition to hold the government to account during the negotiations I think the terms of BREXIT should be subject to a public vote and in this area I support Blair.