EDL boss Tommy Robinson again proves his stupidity

EDL boss Tommy Robinson again proves his stupidity

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anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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Quisling said:
YEP

We should just BAN them from having a voice

And we can just pile everyone who sayes anything negative about anyone who isn't white into the same group of racist scum


And questioning practises from other cultures is also racist
Ideally society should educate “racist scum” but if you’re constantly finding people think you’re racist you have to have the self awareness to think ‘hang on maybe I’m a bit racist’ to make any positive changes.

LF5335

6,124 posts

44 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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Quisling said:
And how about bottom dwelling scum like me who listen to him and think

YEP he has a point there

Should excluded from your nice polite world?
Nobody is excluding anyone from any world. However, if your views are broadly aligned with Robinson as a whole, then you are a racist. It is that simple. Robinson’s views and actions are racist. There can be no denying that, other than by those sympathetic to his views and those who excuse his actions as slurs by the media. As such, you should expect to be called out for it and ridiculed for it. It’s simply unacceptable to believe that you’re better than someone just because you’re white and they aren’t.

There’s no hiding behind “Islam isn’t a race”, or that Robinson jumped on the grooming gangs at the very end of their trials, or whatever other tenuous link you can find to try to make your vile views socially acceptable.

Quisling

539 posts

40 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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El stovey said:
Ideally society should educate “racist scum” but if you’re constantly finding people think you’re racist you have to have the self awareness to think ‘hang on maybe I’m a bit racist’ to make any positive changes.
define

RACIST

As i really don't care about being labeled as one online

In a world where cooking a curry can get you labelled as a racist

I don't think being a racist is that rare or that unusual

as such when you label TTTOOMmmmmyyyyy as a racist i really don't care


I still think he is a conman who preys on the stupid

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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LF5335 said:
Quisling said:
And how about bottom dwelling scum like me who listen to him and think

YEP he has a point there

Should excluded from your nice polite world?
Nobody is excluding anyone from any world. However, if your views are broadly aligned with Robinson as a whole, then you are a racist. It is that simple. Robinson’s views and actions are racist. There can be no denying that, other than by those sympathetic to his views and those who excuse his actions as slurs by the media. As such, you should expect to be called out for it and ridiculed for it. It’s simply unacceptable to believe that you’re better than someone just because you’re white and they aren’t.

There’s no hiding behind “Islam isn’t a race”, or that Robinson jumped on the grooming gangs at the very end of their trials, or whatever other tenuous link you can find to try to make your vile views socially acceptable.
The trouble is nobody thinks they are racist. They just look further down the racist scale and imagine it’s those (even more racist) people that are racist and instead think they’re victims of some PC woke plot to silence them.



Quisling

539 posts

40 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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LF5335 said:
Nobody is excluding anyone from any world. However, if your views are broadly aligned with Robinson as a whole, then you are a racist. It is that simple. Robinson’s views and actions are racist. There can be no denying that, other than by those sympathetic to his views and those who excuse his actions as slurs by the media. As such, you should expect to be called out for it and ridiculed for it. It’s simply unacceptable to believe that you’re better than someone just because you’re white and they aren’t.

There’s no hiding behind “Islam isn’t a race”, or that Robinson jumped on the grooming gangs at the very end of their trials, or whatever other tenuous link you can find to try to make your vile views socially acceptable.
What vile views do i hold?

Is thinking that some practises from other cultures which they happily accept have no place in the UK a vile view?

Is thinking that labelling folk as WACIST instead of actually engaging with them a vile view?

is thinking that when people emigrate to a country and then live as an isolated community is not acceptable (like brits in Spain) is a vile view?

R Mutt

5,893 posts

73 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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El stovey said:
LF5335 said:
Quisling said:
And how about bottom dwelling scum like me who listen to him and think

YEP he has a point there

Should excluded from your nice polite world?
Nobody is excluding anyone from any world. However, if your views are broadly aligned with Robinson as a whole, then you are a racist. It is that simple. Robinson’s views and actions are racist. There can be no denying that, other than by those sympathetic to his views and those who excuse his actions as slurs by the media. As such, you should expect to be called out for it and ridiculed for it. It’s simply unacceptable to believe that you’re better than someone just because you’re white and they aren’t.

There’s no hiding behind “Islam isn’t a race”, or that Robinson jumped on the grooming gangs at the very end of their trials, or whatever other tenuous link you can find to try to make your vile views socially acceptable.
The trouble is nobody thinks they are racist. They just look further down the racist scale and imagine it’s those (even more racist) people that are racist and instead think they’re victims of some PC woke plot to silence them.
Well there's clearly a certain relish for accusations of racism in this thread where criticism of Halal slaughter is dismissed as such.

Why should someone be expected to qualify that with a wider criticism of the meat industry to preclude claims of racism any more than their detractors should denounce the practices in question to prove there is no woke agenda?

Same with the grooming gangs. I highlighted the reluctance of the authorities to investigate due to racial sensitivities and was asked about priests. Would it be reasonable to then dismiss that as stemming from an anti Catholic agenda?

Nobody thinks they're woke, and they're probably not, if such a think exists. Fundamentally racism is wrong. This gives those making the accusation the moral highground whether valid or not, which then forms the basic of such meaningless circular discourse based on often lazy accusations which leave no room for debate over what is racist and what results from a sensitivity towards race, which is what you could dismiss as a 'woke' agenda.

Edited by R Mutt on Monday 22 March 10:57

_dobbo_

14,418 posts

249 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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R Mutt said:
Well there's clearly a certain relish for accusations of racism in this thread where criticism of Halal slaughter is dismissed as such.
That's probably because critics of Halal slaughter are usually entirely silent on the matter of Kosher slaughter.


Quisling

539 posts

40 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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_dobbo_ said:
R Mutt said:
Well there's clearly a certain relish for accusations of racism in this thread where criticism of Halal slaughter is dismissed as such.
That's probably because critics of Halal slaughter are usually entirely silent on the matter of Kosher slaughter.
WELL


I couldn't care less about either


Its un-stuned slaughter i have a problem with


Am i a wacist?

tangerine_sedge

4,845 posts

219 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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And as usual, our resident Tommy apologists argue that black is white, and get knocked over on the next zebra crossing...

chrispmartha

15,572 posts

130 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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Quisling said:
_dobbo_ said:
R Mutt said:
Well there's clearly a certain relish for accusations of racism in this thread where criticism of Halal slaughter is dismissed as such.
That's probably because critics of Halal slaughter are usually entirely silent on the matter of Kosher slaughter.
WELL


I couldn't care less about either


Its un-stuned slaughter i have a problem with


Am i a wacist?
What's a wacist?

Bacon Is Proof

5,740 posts

232 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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Are people still holding up a jobless failed football hooligan as some sort of inspiration?
How embarrassing.

tangerine_sedge

4,845 posts

219 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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chrispmartha said:
What's a wacist?
It's what serial banned "I'm not a racist but.." posters use to virtue signal to other "I'm not a racist but.." posters that they are in no way actually massive racists.

Quisling

539 posts

40 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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Bacon Is Proof said:
Are people still holding up a jobless failed football hooligan as some sort of inspiration?
How embarrassing.
Are people still using a conman football hooligan as a reason to dismiss real concerns

How unexpected

R Mutt

5,893 posts

73 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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_dobbo_ said:
R Mutt said:
Well there's clearly a certain relish for accusations of racism in this thread where criticism of Halal slaughter is dismissed as such.
That's probably because critics of Halal slaughter are usually entirely silent on the matter of Kosher slaughter.
There's a greater number of racists than the 6 million vegetarians or vegans? Of course there may be an overlap, but then what of Jewish vegetarians? What about the Chinese and their terrible animal rights? Probably needs a venn diagram. Now do Antisemites and antizionists, or homophobes and Muslims. Is it Islamophobic to highlight that or pro LGBT rights? Or is that different because you're sure I can't be a racist LGBT rights campaigner?

There seem to be inconsistencies in what is considered support for a cause based on honest intentions and what is a disguise for an ism. That's the bias I've tried to address throughout but seems to result in the lazy suggestion that I'm a supporter of SYL because it's easier just to take the moral highground of calling people racist.

Quisling

539 posts

40 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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R Mutt said:
There's a greater number of racists than the 6 million vegetarians or vegans? Of course there may be an overlap, but then what of Jewish vegetarians? What about the Chinese and their terrible animal rights? Probably needs a venn diagram. Now do Antisemites and antizionists, or homophobes and Muslims. Is it Islamophobic to highlight that or pro LGBT rights? Or is that different because you're sure I can't be a racist LGBT rights campaigner?

There seem to be inconsistencies in what is considered support for a cause based on honest intentions and what is a disguise for an ism. That's the bias I've tried to address throughout but seems to result in the lazy suggestion that I'm a supporter of SYL because it's easier just to take the moral highground of calling people racist.
In a similar manner to anyone voicing concerns about letting grown men with a penis and lipstick into women only safe spaces is instantly labelled a TRANSPHOBE


mrporsche

742 posts

43 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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_dobbo_ said:
R Mutt said:
Well there's clearly a certain relish for accusations of racism in this thread where criticism of Halal slaughter is dismissed as such.
That's probably because critics of Halal slaughter are usually entirely silent on the matter of Kosher slaughter.
Our Jewish population is very small, and they rarely make the front page of the news.

The Muslim population is 10 times as large (2011 census), and for whatever reason they do appear on the front page more often.

chrispmartha

15,572 posts

130 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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Quisling said:
R Mutt said:
There's a greater number of racists than the 6 million vegetarians or vegans? Of course there may be an overlap, but then what of Jewish vegetarians? What about the Chinese and their terrible animal rights? Probably needs a venn diagram. Now do Antisemites and antizionists, or homophobes and Muslims. Is it Islamophobic to highlight that or pro LGBT rights? Or is that different because you're sure I can't be a racist LGBT rights campaigner?

There seem to be inconsistencies in what is considered support for a cause based on honest intentions and what is a disguise for an ism. That's the bias I've tried to address throughout but seems to result in the lazy suggestion that I'm a supporter of SYL because it's easier just to take the moral highground of calling people racist.
In a similar manner to anyone voicing concerns about letting grown men with a penis and lipstick into women only safe spaces is instantly labelled a TRANSPHOBE
Because people that seem to use this 'men with a penis and a lipstick line' are usually Transphobic.

Are you Transphobic?

Quisling

539 posts

40 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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chrispmartha said:
Because people that seem to use this 'men with a penis and a lipstick line' are usually Transphobic.

Are you Transphobic?
By your own exceedingly low standards of proof then YEP

Same as i am

Far right
Nazi
Facist

and of course

Racist

chrispmartha

15,572 posts

130 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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Quisling said:
chrispmartha said:
Because people that seem to use this 'men with a penis and a lipstick line' are usually Transphobic.

Are you Transphobic?
By your own exceedingly low standards of proof then YEP

Same as i am

Far right
Nazi
Facist

and of course

Racist
What now standard of proof, I simply asked you a question? you trotted out a well used trope that is often used by Transphobic people so I wondered where you stood on the issue.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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Quisling said:
chrispmartha said:
Because people that seem to use this 'men with a penis and a lipstick line' are usually Transphobic.

Are you Transphobic?
By your own exceedingly low standards of proof then YEP

Same as i am

Far right
Nazi
Facist

and of course

Racist
Does Tommy say anything that you don’t agree with?