Climate change - the POLITICAL debate (Vol 6)

Climate change - the POLITICAL debate (Vol 6)

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deeps

5,393 posts

242 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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The story comes from The Daily Telegraph. The photo was unconnected to that story and was posted on Twitter to emphasise the reality of the arson emergency.

The Telegraph reports today...


Daily Telegraph Aus said:
Serial arsonists will face the full force of the law after NSW Police announced a crackdown on fire bugs in the wake of investigations which showed 716 fires this season did not occur naturally.

More than 250 people have been charged since August 2019 with bushfire-related offences.

Emergency Services Minister David Elliott said the 19-year-old Strike Force Toronto would be expanded for the first time to zero in on serial arsonists.

“It is a genuinely disturbing announcement because a 20-year-old strike force has to be expanded,” he said.

“It is unfathomable that anyone would deliberately light a fire in these conditions, but sadly this season we have had to deal with 267 reckless people for bushfire-related offences.

“The best evidence is fresh evidence and that is why we are appealing for people to see, hear or appreciate things that are out of the ordinary when it comes to bushfires.”

NSW Police Commissioner Mick Fuller said 40 police officers would be working on busting arsonists and hundreds of additional officers would also be deployed.

A data collection and investigation plan has been put into place to find out the cause of 1700 bushfires reported to police this season.

There will also be coronial inquiries into the tragic deaths of 24 people.

“Over the coming months there will be hundreds and hundreds of additional officers whether they be Police Rescue or scientific officers working through all of these crime scenes to try and establish the cause of these fires,” Mr Fuller said.

Assistant Commissioner Stuart Smith said the taskforce would use a special electronic platform where residents can upload photos of property damage and other related evidence.

“We have today obviously set up a police link line on 131 444 which will allow those people to report their property damage,” Mr Smith said.

“Later today we will release a new electronic platform that allows the fast path reporting of damage and the uploading of what we believe will be future viable images or videos which will assist the strike force track down anyone in serial arsonist behaviour.”
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=DTWEB_WRE170_a_FBK&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailytelegraph.com.au%2Fnews%2Fnsw%2Fnsw-police-reveal-measures-to-crackdown-on-bushfire-arsonists%2Fnews-story%2F2993007a606a11fbd037bf1bcafe7f64&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium&v21suffix=64-b

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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bodhi said:
robinessex said:
Aren't they also believers in crap science like AGW believers?
Yep, the Flat Earth Society are firmly behind ManBearPig.
Flat earth society are just taking the piss.

YouGov did a good series on conspiracy theorists last year.

Climate change denial has only slightly more support than anti Vaxers and moon landing disbelievers amongst U.K. conspiracy theorists.

Nobody believes the earth is flat though.

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/science/articles-repor...










chrispmartha

15,587 posts

130 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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deeps said:
The story comes from The Daily Telegraph. The photo was unconnected to that story and was posted on Twitter to emphasise the reality of the arson emergency.

The Telegraph reports today...


Daily Telegraph Aus said:
Serial arsonists will face the full force of the law after NSW Police announced a crackdown on fire bugs in the wake of investigations which showed 716 fires this season did not occur naturally.

More than 250 people have been charged since August 2019 with bushfire-related offences.

Emergency Services Minister David Elliott said the 19-year-old Strike Force Toronto would be expanded for the first time to zero in on serial arsonists.

“It is a genuinely disturbing announcement because a 20-year-old strike force has to be expanded,” he said.

“It is unfathomable that anyone would deliberately light a fire in these conditions, but sadly this season we have had to deal with 267 reckless people for bushfire-related offences.

“The best evidence is fresh evidence and that is why we are appealing for people to see, hear or appreciate things that are out of the ordinary when it comes to bushfires.”

NSW Police Commissioner Mick Fuller said 40 police officers would be working on busting arsonists and hundreds of additional officers would also be deployed.

A data collection and investigation plan has been put into place to find out the cause of 1700 bushfires reported to police this season.

There will also be coronial inquiries into the tragic deaths of 24 people.

“Over the coming months there will be hundreds and hundreds of additional officers whether they be Police Rescue or scientific officers working through all of these crime scenes to try and establish the cause of these fires,” Mr Fuller said.

Assistant Commissioner Stuart Smith said the taskforce would use a special electronic platform where residents can upload photos of property damage and other related evidence.

“We have today obviously set up a police link line on 131 444 which will allow those people to report their property damage,” Mr Smith said.

“Later today we will release a new electronic platform that allows the fast path reporting of damage and the uploading of what we believe will be future viable images or videos which will assist the strike force track down anyone in serial arsonist behaviour.”
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=DTWEB_WRE170_a_FBK&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailytelegraph.com.au%2Fnews%2Fnsw%2Fnsw-police-reveal-measures-to-crackdown-on-bushfire-arsonists%2Fnews-story%2F2993007a606a11fbd037bf1bcafe7f64&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium&v21suffix=64-b
Doubling down I see, so, these, 267 people charged with Arson?

You do know what arson is don't you?

turbobloke

104,279 posts

261 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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deeps said:
The story comes from The Daily Telegraph. The photo was unconnected to that story and was posted on Twitter to emphasise the reality of the arson emergency.

The Telegraph reports today...


Daily Telegraph Aus said:
Serial arsonists will face the full force of the law after NSW Police announced a crackdown on fire bugs in the wake of investigations which showed 716 fires this season did not occur naturally.

More than 250 people have been charged since August 2019 with bushfire-related offences.

Emergency Services Minister David Elliott said the 19-year-old Strike Force Toronto would be expanded for the first time to zero in on serial arsonists.

“It is a genuinely disturbing announcement because a 20-year-old strike force has to be expanded,” he said.

“It is unfathomable that anyone would deliberately light a fire in these conditions, but sadly this season we have had to deal with 267 reckless people for bushfire-related offences.

“The best evidence is fresh evidence and that is why we are appealing for people to see, hear or appreciate things that are out of the ordinary when it comes to bushfires.”

NSW Police Commissioner Mick Fuller said 40 police officers would be working on busting arsonists and hundreds of additional officers would also be deployed.

A data collection and investigation plan has been put into place to find out the cause of 1700 bushfires reported to police this season.

There will also be coronial inquiries into the tragic deaths of 24 people.

“Over the coming months there will be hundreds and hundreds of additional officers whether they be Police Rescue or scientific officers working through all of these crime scenes to try and establish the cause of these fires,” Mr Fuller said.

Assistant Commissioner Stuart Smith said the taskforce would use a special electronic platform where residents can upload photos of property damage and other related evidence.

“We have today obviously set up a police link line on 131 444 which will allow those people to report their property damage,” Mr Smith said.

“Later today we will release a new electronic platform that allows the fast path reporting of damage and the uploading of what we believe will be future viable images or videos which will assist the strike force track down anyone in serial arsonist behaviour.”
Indeed, very sad, but also bread and butter for extremist alarmists to misrepresent in the usual sloppy opportunist ways.

"It's manmade, but not as we know it Greta"

robinessex

11,084 posts

182 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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My wife believes that CC is true. Her knowledge on the subject is zero. I just let her get on with it.

robinessex

11,084 posts

182 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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Our demands have been completely ignored' says Greta Thunberg at Davos 2020

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN5SMLj-2XA

Greta Thunberg has said that the World Economic Forum has completely ignored the climate movement’s demands on fossil fuel divestment this week. The 17-year-old activist also said that Steven Mnuchin’s comments had 'no effect' on her after he told her to go to college and study economics

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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turbobloke said:
Indeed, very sad, but also bread and butter for extremist alarmists to misrepresent in the usual sloppy opportunist ways.

"It's manmade, but not as we know it Greta"
He posted an entirely fake news article where the title and links to XR and the location had been doctored and it was then posted on Facebook.

He’s even deleted his defence after realising.

It’s quite obviously fake news. Why on earth are you defending it?

chrispmartha

15,587 posts

130 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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robinessex said:
My wife believes that CC is true. Her knowledge on the subject is zero. I just let her get on with it.
You don’t think climate change is true?

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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deeps said:
The story comes from The Daily Telegraph. The photo was unconnected to that story and was posted on Twitter to emphasise the reality of the arson emergency.

The Telegraph reports today...


Daily Telegraph Aus said:
Serial arsonists will face the full force of the law after NSW Police announced a crackdown on fire bugs in the wake of investigations which showed 716 fires this season did not occur naturally.

More than 250 people have been charged since August 2019 with bushfire-related offences.

Emergency Services Minister David Elliott said the 19-year-old Strike Force Toronto would be expanded for the first time to zero in on serial arsonists.

“It is a genuinely disturbing announcement because a 20-year-old strike force has to be expanded,” he said.

“It is unfathomable that anyone would deliberately light a fire in these conditions, but sadly this season we have had to deal with 267 reckless people for bushfire-related offences.

“The best evidence is fresh evidence and that is why we are appealing for people to see, hear or appreciate things that are out of the ordinary when it comes to bushfires.”

NSW Police Commissioner Mick Fuller said 40 police officers would be working on busting arsonists and hundreds of additional officers would also be deployed.

A data collection and investigation plan has been put into place to find out the cause of 1700 bushfires reported to police this season.

There will also be coronial inquiries into the tragic deaths of 24 people.

“Over the coming months there will be hundreds and hundreds of additional officers whether they be Police Rescue or scientific officers working through all of these crime scenes to try and establish the cause of these fires,” Mr Fuller said.

Assistant Commissioner Stuart Smith said the taskforce would use a special electronic platform where residents can upload photos of property damage and other related evidence.

“We have today obviously set up a police link line on 131 444 which will allow those people to report their property damage,” Mr Smith said.

“Later today we will release a new electronic platform that allows the fast path reporting of damage and the uploading of what we believe will be future viable images or videos which will assist the strike force track down anyone in serial arsonist behaviour.”
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=DTWEB_WRE170_a_FBK&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailytelegraph.com.au%2Fnews%2Fnsw%2Fnsw-police-reveal-measures-to-crackdown-on-bushfire-arsonists%2Fnews-story%2F2993007a606a11fbd037bf1bcafe7f64&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium&v21suffix=64-b
You posted a completely fake article about an XR member being charged with causing fires.

https://factcheck.afp.com/image-was-doctored-austr...






Now you’re hilariously trying to back pedal. hehe

chrispmartha

15,587 posts

130 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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El stovey said:
turbobloke said:
Indeed, very sad, but also bread and butter for extremist alarmists to misrepresent in the usual sloppy opportunist ways.

"It's manmade, but not as we know it Greta"
He posted an entirely fake news article where the title and links to XR and the location had been doctored and it was then posted on Facebook.

He’s even deleted his defence after realising.

It’s quite obviously fake news. Why on earth are you defending it?
Defending it, he’s probably saved the pic in his file

He’s one to talk about misrepresentation, didn’t an actual scientist directly say TB was ‘misrepresenting’ what he wrote on here?


Edited by chrispmartha on Friday 24th January 17:09

deeps

5,393 posts

242 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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El stovey said:
deeps said:
The story comes from The Daily Telegraph. The photo was unconnected to that story and was posted on Twitter to emphasise the reality of the arson emergency.

The Telegraph reports today...


Daily Telegraph Aus said:
Serial arsonists will face the full force of the law after NSW Police announced a crackdown on fire bugs in the wake of investigations which showed 716 fires this season did not occur naturally.

More than 250 people have been charged since August 2019 with bushfire-related offences.

Emergency Services Minister David Elliott said the 19-year-old Strike Force Toronto would be expanded for the first time to zero in on serial arsonists.

“It is a genuinely disturbing announcement because a 20-year-old strike force has to be expanded,” he said.

“It is unfathomable that anyone would deliberately light a fire in these conditions, but sadly this season we have had to deal with 267 reckless people for bushfire-related offences.

“The best evidence is fresh evidence and that is why we are appealing for people to see, hear or appreciate things that are out of the ordinary when it comes to bushfires.”

NSW Police Commissioner Mick Fuller said 40 police officers would be working on busting arsonists and hundreds of additional officers would also be deployed.

A data collection and investigation plan has been put into place to find out the cause of 1700 bushfires reported to police this season.

There will also be coronial inquiries into the tragic deaths of 24 people.

“Over the coming months there will be hundreds and hundreds of additional officers whether they be Police Rescue or scientific officers working through all of these crime scenes to try and establish the cause of these fires,” Mr Fuller said.

Assistant Commissioner Stuart Smith said the taskforce would use a special electronic platform where residents can upload photos of property damage and other related evidence.

“We have today obviously set up a police link line on 131 444 which will allow those people to report their property damage,” Mr Smith said.

“Later today we will release a new electronic platform that allows the fast path reporting of damage and the uploading of what we believe will be future viable images or videos which will assist the strike force track down anyone in serial arsonist behaviour.”
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=DTWEB_WRE170_a_FBK&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailytelegraph.com.au%2Fnews%2Fnsw%2Fnsw-police-reveal-measures-to-crackdown-on-bushfire-arsonists%2Fnews-story%2F2993007a606a11fbd037bf1bcafe7f64&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium&v21suffix=64-b
You posted a completely fake article about an XR member being charged with causing fires.

https://factcheck.afp.com/image-was-doctored-austr...






Now you’re hilariously trying to back pedal. hehe
I have no idea what you mean by "deleted his defence"? Please explain? I have deleted nothing.

As said above, the photo is unrelated to today's Telegraph article and was used to emphasise the arson emergency. It's an appropriate meme given the scale of the disaster. Perhaps it will help wake certain people up.

The fact that you have trouble accepting the very real arson emergency is revealing.

Many of these arsonists will no doubt belong to ER, yes there is no proof as of yet, let's hope it is swiftly forthcoming now that the police have upped their game and tasked in extra numbers to combat this arson crisis.



anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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robinessex said:
My wife believes that CC is true. Her knowledge on the subject is zero. I just let her get on with it.
https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/environment/climate-change-sceptic-is-fine-with-all-other-science-20151214104699

Countdown

40,089 posts

197 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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deeps said:
Many of these arsonists will no doubt belong to ER, yes there is no proof as of yet, let's hope it is swiftly forthcoming now that the police have upped their game and tasked in extra numbers to combat this arson crisis.
When there's no doubt at all, who needs "proof"? spin

turbobloke

104,279 posts

261 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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Unlikely potus wannabe and Dem Sen Elizabeth Warren has demanded US banks provide their climate disaster plans. There must be workable templates around, after all New York has been under water since 2015 (then 2019) as predicted by agw settled soothsaying.


anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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deeps said:
As said above, the photo is unrelated to today's Telegraph article and was used to emphasise the arson emergency. It's an appropriate meme given the scale of the disaster. Perhaps it will help wake certain people up.
rofl

It’s not an appropriate meme.

You’ve been shown to be posting fake news. Just admit you fell for it.

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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Countdown said:
deeps said:
Many of these arsonists will no doubt belong to ER, yes there is no proof as of yet, let's hope it is swiftly forthcoming now that the police have upped their game and tasked in extra numbers to combat this arson crisis.
When there's no doubt at all, who needs "proof"? spin
He thought he had proof.



But alas it wasn’t true so now he’s pretending he deliberately posted a meme to “ to emphasise the arson emergency“ hehe

chrispmartha

15,587 posts

130 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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deeps said:
El stovey said:
deeps said:
The story comes from The Daily Telegraph. The photo was unconnected to that story and was posted on Twitter to emphasise the reality of the arson emergency.

The Telegraph reports today...


Daily Telegraph Aus said:
Serial arsonists will face the full force of the law after NSW Police announced a crackdown on fire bugs in the wake of investigations which showed 716 fires this season did not occur naturally.

More than 250 people have been charged since August 2019 with bushfire-related offences.

Emergency Services Minister David Elliott said the 19-year-old Strike Force Toronto would be expanded for the first time to zero in on serial arsonists.

“It is a genuinely disturbing announcement because a 20-year-old strike force has to be expanded,” he said.

“It is unfathomable that anyone would deliberately light a fire in these conditions, but sadly this season we have had to deal with 267 reckless people for bushfire-related offences.

“The best evidence is fresh evidence and that is why we are appealing for people to see, hear or appreciate things that are out of the ordinary when it comes to bushfires.”

NSW Police Commissioner Mick Fuller said 40 police officers would be working on busting arsonists and hundreds of additional officers would also be deployed.

A data collection and investigation plan has been put into place to find out the cause of 1700 bushfires reported to police this season.

There will also be coronial inquiries into the tragic deaths of 24 people.

“Over the coming months there will be hundreds and hundreds of additional officers whether they be Police Rescue or scientific officers working through all of these crime scenes to try and establish the cause of these fires,” Mr Fuller said.

Assistant Commissioner Stuart Smith said the taskforce would use a special electronic platform where residents can upload photos of property damage and other related evidence.

“We have today obviously set up a police link line on 131 444 which will allow those people to report their property damage,” Mr Smith said.

“Later today we will release a new electronic platform that allows the fast path reporting of damage and the uploading of what we believe will be future viable images or videos which will assist the strike force track down anyone in serial arsonist behaviour.”
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=DTWEB_WRE170_a_FBK&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailytelegraph.com.au%2Fnews%2Fnsw%2Fnsw-police-reveal-measures-to-crackdown-on-bushfire-arsonists%2Fnews-story%2F2993007a606a11fbd037bf1bcafe7f64&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium&v21suffix=64-b
You posted a completely fake article about an XR member being charged with causing fires.

https://factcheck.afp.com/image-was-doctored-austr...






Now you’re hilariously trying to back pedal. hehe
I have no idea what you mean by "deleted his defence"? Please explain? I have deleted nothing.

As said above, the photo is unrelated to today's Telegraph article and was used to emphasise the arson emergency. It's an appropriate meme given the scale of the disaster. Perhaps it will help wake certain people up.

The fact that you have trouble accepting the very real arson emergency is revealing.

Many of these arsonists will no doubt belong to ER, yes there is no proof as of yet, let's hope it is swiftly forthcoming now that the police have upped their game and tasked in extra numbers to combat this arson crisis.
Doubling down on doubling down.

It wasn’t a ‘meme’ let alone an appropriate one.

Again do you know what arson means?

turbobloke

104,279 posts

261 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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Update memo for politicians on PH regarding pH.

The average pH of ocean surface water is currently falling by 0.02 units per decade i.e. a barely perceptible 0.002 units per year. These minuscule changes pale in comparison with seasonal shifts, and the natural worldwide variation in ocean pH, with a low of typically 7.8 in coastal waters and a high of 8.4 in upper latitudes. Naturally.


deeps

5,393 posts

242 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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It seems to have emphasised a point and served its purpose rather well.

The AGWW are seething, shame. hehe

chrispmartha

15,587 posts

130 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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deeps said:
It seems to have emphasised a point and served its purpose rather well.

The AGWW are seething, shame. hehe
It did emphasise a point, just not the one you think it did
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