45th President of the United States, Donald Trump.

45th President of the United States, Donald Trump.

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TTwiggy

11,574 posts

206 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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Lucas Ayde said:
TTwiggy said:
What about the people who do have jobs and who can afford a $20,000 car, but not an identical one for $60,000? Should they expect a massive pay rise?
People should maybe be more realistic about the real cost of consumer goods - both in currency and what that is doing to the longer term prospects of economic prosperity in their country, and what effect that might ultimately have on themselves.

You picked a poor example with the cost of a car though - as evidenced by recent threads here there seems to be an overwhelming move to get cars on some sort of finance deal which invariably means you never really own the car. Another example of how credit has stepped in to replace a decent, stable, income.
There's a limit to how much a lease deal or sone other type of finance can 'fudge' the true cost though. Otherwise we'd all be leasing Ferraris.


Stickyfinger

8,429 posts

107 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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paul789 said:
st, this is serious. This changes everything:

http://www.getreading.co.uk/news/reading-berkshire...

Protests expected in dull, tracksuit-filled market town in England. Ridiculous.


https://www.facebook.com/events/1614803162158601/

why am I not surprised ?

bazza white

3,590 posts

130 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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If trump's decided to be nice to us with a trade deal with the USA and we get a trade deal with Mexico it could be interesting. Products could be shipped Mexico>UK>USA.

Bonkers yes but we have shipped steel from Spain>UK>USA to avoid duty.






FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

95 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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There go the McDonalds windows.

A job has been created! Trump is good for biz.

anonymous-user

56 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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TEKNOPUG said:
I'm sure that the billionaire, son of a billionaire, knows exactly what their lives are like. He's a man of the people, a man from the streets. Fifth Avenue to be precise. hehe
Yes, he's a man of the people replacing Washington corruption with his family and friends from Goldman Sachs.

chrispmartha

15,656 posts

131 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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El stovey said:
TEKNOPUG said:
I'm sure that the billionaire, son of a billionaire, knows exactly what their lives are like. He's a man of the people, a man from the streets. Fifth Avenue to be precise. hehe
Yes, he's a man of the people replacing Washington corruption with his family and friends from Goldman Sachs.
I'm astounded people think voting for Trump is a vote for the common person.

Balmoral

41,166 posts

250 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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Perhaps you're thinking too deeply, or not deeply enough?

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

166 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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can you now get a qualification in "protesting and smashing things up" it seems to be a career for some of them.
I expect this is a difficult day for Hilary but at least she has the good grace to show up.

johnfm

13,668 posts

252 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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TEKNOPUG said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
The people voted for Trump because they are sick of these people telling them how to live their lives when they haven't a clue what their lives are even like.
Its the little people who voted him in perhaps you also think they must all be thick and racist.
I'm sure that the billionaire, son of a billionaire, knows exactly what their lives are like. He's a man of the people, a man from the streets. Fifth Avenue to be precise. hehe
I reckon that is quite an assumption. Trump is a master bullstter. I'd be surprised if his net wealth is anywhere near £1b.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

166 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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chrispmartha said:
I'm astounded people think voting for Trump is a vote for the common person.
you have it the wrong way round the Common man voted for Trump.

Blackpuddin

16,724 posts

207 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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Check the thickness of the doors on those Presidential limos. The glass is nearly as thick, I gather, though given that the folk inside are hardly going to be interested in what's going on outside, I wonder why they bother fitting windows at all.

Lucas Ayde

3,607 posts

170 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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chrispmartha said:
I'm astounded people think voting for Trump is a vote for the common person.
Very few people think that a vote for Trump is a vote for a common person or someone who truly represents a common person.

It is however, the aforementioned 'common person' giving two fingers to the establishment which has been serving us a succession of stooges who ignore the wishes of the electorate in order to keep the rich and powerful, rich and powerful since, well, forever.

Whether or not Trump demonstrates he will truly break with the establishment order - or is even any good at doing his job - remains to be seen, but it's excellent news that people are cottoning on to having been played by a ruling elite.


5ohmustang

2,755 posts

117 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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The day all the leftists on here said was impossible is here. It's a glorious day. Real hope and change is here. Time to roll back 8 years of failures.

Making America Great Again!

Blackpuddin

16,724 posts

207 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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For sheer over-the-topness this motorcade beats anything those poxy Ruskies or North Veet Namese could put on. Yee-haw! No shots fired yet.

johnfm

13,668 posts

252 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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5ohmustang said:
The day all the leftists on here said was impossible is here. It's a glorious day. Real hope and change is here. Time to roll back 8 years of failures.

Making America Great Again!
Keep drinking the kool aid.

Esseesse

8,969 posts

210 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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chrispmartha said:
El stovey said:
TEKNOPUG said:
I'm sure that the billionaire, son of a billionaire, knows exactly what their lives are like. He's a man of the people, a man from the streets. Fifth Avenue to be precise. hehe
Yes, he's a man of the people replacing Washington corruption with his family and friends from Goldman Sachs.
I'm astounded people think voting for Trump is a vote for the common person.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

166 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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5ohmustang said:
The day all the leftists on here said was impossible is here. It's a glorious day. Real hope and change is here. Time to roll back 8 years of failures.

Making America Great Again!
seriously why not ,as he said himself he cant do any worse.

Cobnapint

8,651 posts

153 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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Is that cavalcade long enough or what?

I notice the streets and stands were empty during the first half of the journey.

p1stonhead

25,859 posts

169 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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Lucas Ayde said:
p1stonhead said:
So you think Americans will be happy to pay increased costs to cover the taxes associated with these new rules? The companies won't swallow them
I think that on balance people would be happier to have a well paid, secure job and not be up to their necks in debt.

I lived in a country with a very high cost of living and some quite heavy restrictions/ tariffs on imports, for almost a decade. Strangely enough, people weren't grumbling about prices (which were generally quite a bit higher than the UK) because they had decent pay and good working conditions - and thus were able to afford one of the best standards of living around. The country also consistently featured around the top of the global happiness lists. But then what would the Swiss know?
You are using the unbelievably wealthy SWISS to make an example of people willling to pay more? How will that work out for the poor and destitute living in the downtrodden areas of the US?

laugh

Edited by p1stonhead on Friday 20th January 16:03

Countdown

40,288 posts

198 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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Lucas Ayde said:
Very few people think that a vote for Trump is a vote for a common person or someone who truly represents a common person.

It is however, the aforementioned 'common person' giving two fingers to the establishment which has been serving us a succession of stooges who ignore the wishes of the electorate in order to keep the rich and powerful, rich and powerful since, well, forever.

Whether or not Trump demonstrates he will truly break with the establishment order - or is even any good at doing his job - remains to be seen, but it's excellent news that people are cottoning on to having been played by a ruling elite.
A black guy from Chicago was part of the "ruling elite"? confused
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