Scrapping Age Related Benefits

[BoRED S2upid]

BlackLabel said:

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/jun/10/bbc-...

Tip of the iceberg IMO. Fuel allowance next. Everything will be means tested before long.

[Vipers]

Screw the motorists, screw the OAP's, increase the silly sods allowance who sit and kip in the Houses of Parliament, give immigrants better financial support than our elderly and ex armed forces, what a total fekked up country this is.

[loafer123]

BoRED S2upid said:

BlackLabel said:

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/jun/10/bbc-...

Tip of the iceberg IMO. Fuel allowance next. Everything will be means tested before long.

Why should a tax paying single mother subsidise a pensioner with a generous final salary pension?

[Geoffrey 321]

Vipers said:

Screw the motorists, screw the OAP's, increase the silly sods allowance who sit and kip in the Houses of Parliament, give immigrants better financial support than our elderly and ex armed forces, what a total fekked up country this is.

+1

[BoRED S2upid]

loafer123 said:

Why should a tax paying single mother subsidise a pensioner with a generous final salary pension?

Why indeed. Fuel allowance is a crazy idea.

[Murph7355]

Maybe less old folk will remain keen on the idea of the BBC being funded the way it is now they will have to pay for it too.

As more young people get their entertainment from streaming services, the BBC will become less relevant. They need to do more than cling desperately to half century old ideas...

[Welshbeef]

BoRED S2upid said:

BlackLabel said:

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/jun/10/bbc-...

Tip of the iceberg IMO. Fuel allowance next. Everything will be means tested before long.

We have income tax bands - pay the tv licence fuel allowance bus pass direct to them in everyone’s state pension then claw it back in tax.

If you don’t earn a lot you’ll keep it all if you do then you pay 20/40% of it.

But why the youth should pay for the old when the current youth will never have that benefit themselves doesn’t seem fair.

[Welshbeef]

BoRED S2upid said:

Why indeed. Fuel allowance is a crazy idea.

Fuel allowance is anti climate policy.

Instead invest in improving the properties so that they are better insulated

[crankedup]

Welshbeef said:

BoRED S2upid said:

Why indeed. Fuel allowance is a crazy idea.

Fuel allowance is anti climate policy.

Instead invest in improving the properties so that they are better insulated

Property insulation courtesy of Government Policies over the past couple of decades have been courtesy of all electric and gas bill payers. Same as ‘green energy’ supplemented by tax payers.

[Evanivitch]

crankedup said:

Welshbeef said:

BoRED S2upid said:

Why indeed. Fuel allowance is a crazy idea.

Fuel allowance is anti climate policy.

Instead invest in improving the properties so that they are better insulated

Property insulation courtesy of Government Policies over the past couple of decades have been courtesy of all electric and gas bill payers. Same as ‘green energy’ supplemented by tax payers.

Same as conventional thermal plants, supplemented by tax payers and utility bills.

[Vipers]

All elderly people are not well off. A neighbour of mine, a widow, her basic state pension is just under £60 a WEEK.

Yes she gets assistance, but now she will have to find the money for her TV licenses, and I am sure she looks forward to the winter fuel allowance, it all helps.

Just hope you guys are saving hard for your private pensions.

[Welshbeef]

Vipers said:

All elderly people are not well off. A neighbour of mine, a widow, her basic state pension is just under £60 a WEEK.

Yes she gets assistance, but now she will have to find the money for her TV licenses, and I am sure she looks forward to the winter fuel allowance, it all helps.

Just hope you guys are saving hard for your private pensions.

Does she get pension credit? If so it will have no impact on her

Most elderly will have had state pension start at 60 or 65 years old a blessing the young will not have 67/68/69:70 +

[Integroo]

Vipers said:

All elderly people are not well off. A neighbour of mine, a widow, her basic state pension is just under £60 a WEEK.

Yes she gets assistance, but now she will have to find the money for her TV licenses, and I am sure she looks forward to the winter fuel allowance, it all helps.

Just hope you guys are saving hard for your private pensions.

Make it means tested then.

[otolith]

anonymous said:

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Don’t do it, it will all go to the German company which owns the Werthers brand.

[BoRED S2upid]

Vipers said:

Just hope you guys are saving hard for your private pensions.

Like you wouldn’t believe. State pension will be non existent or replaced with benefits when / if I live long enough to claim it although many governments will come and go between now and then.

[jesusbuiltmycar]

BoRED S2upid said:

Vipers said:

Just hope you guys are saving hard for your private pensions.

Like you wouldn’t believe. State pension will be non existent or replaced with benefits when / if I live long enough to claim it although many governments will come and go between now and then.

Pity Gordon Brown stole 50% of most peoples private pension pots and even though the Torys made a lot of noise at the time they havent bothered to reverse Brown's raid...

No doubt Comrades Corbyn & McDonnell will help himself to a posrtion of whats left when they get a chance

[Jinx]

Integroo said:

Vipers said:

All elderly people are not well off. A neighbour of mine, a widow, her basic state pension is just under £60 a WEEK.

Yes she gets assistance, but now she will have to find the money for her TV licenses, and I am sure she looks forward to the winter fuel allowance, it all helps.

Just hope you guys are saving hard for your private pensions.

Make it means tested then.

Means testing is expensive. In fact probably more expensive then paying the small amount of winter fuel allowance to every pensioner - still want to means test it?

[randlemarcus]

Jinx said:

Means testing is expensive. In fact probably more expensive then paying the small amount of winter fuel allowance to every pensioner - still want to means test it?

Not sure that's as true as it used to be. "Select Pensioner where Higher Rate Taxpayer is True"....

[Integroo]

Jinx said:

Integroo said:

Vipers said:

All elderly people are not well off. A neighbour of mine, a widow, her basic state pension is just under £60 a WEEK.

Yes she gets assistance, but now she will have to find the money for her TV licenses, and I am sure she looks forward to the winter fuel allowance, it all helps.

Just hope you guys are saving hard for your private pensions.

Make it means tested then.

Means testing is expensive. In fact probably more expensive then paying the small amount of winter fuel allowance to every pensioner - still want to means test it?

Oft trotted out as a reason against means testing, but I have never seen any evidence that it is true.

[Evanivitch]

Jinx said:

Means testing is expensive. In fact probably more expensive then paying the small amount of winter fuel allowance to every pensioner - still want to means test it?

There are already pension credit benefits that are means tested. Just needs to be wrapped into that. No additional expense.