Gulf of Oman incidents

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Condi

17,418 posts

173 months

Friday 19th July 2019
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anonymous said:
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But they're EU sanctions. The oil wasn't from the EU, the ship wasn't from the EU, and the destination wasn't in the EU.

Moreover I don't know which water the tanker was picked up in, but given how small the British waters are around Gibraltar its hard to believe the vessel was picked up there. If it was in Spanish waters, why didn't the Spanish stop it? Why did we have to do it? If it was in International waters then we have no more right to stop the vessel than the Iranians have to stop ours.

dieselgrunt

689 posts

166 months

Friday 19th July 2019
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Wonder if they will parade the crew in front of the cameras again.

alfie2244

11,292 posts

190 months

Friday 19th July 2019
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dieselgrunt said:
Wonder if they will parade the crew in front of the cameras again.
Could be another Tom Hanks film coming up.

petemurphy

10,144 posts

185 months

Friday 19th July 2019
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alfie2244 said:
Could be another Tom Hanks film coming up.
Go get it back roger



fiatpower

3,073 posts

173 months

Friday 19th July 2019
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A 2nd tanker has now been seized allegedly

Googie

1,207 posts

128 months

Friday 19th July 2019
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dieselgrunt said:
Wonder if they will parade the crew in front of the cameras again.
Having first confiscated all iPods

anonymous-user

56 months

Friday 19th July 2019
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red_slr said:
Terzo123 said:
I wonder what the response will be.
Not a lot. Finger pointing I suspect. I mean they abducted 15 British military bods in 07 and we did the square root of f**k all.
yes

Chimune

3,204 posts

225 months

Friday 19th July 2019
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Condi said:
anonymous said:
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But they're EU sanctions. The oil wasn't from the EU, the ship wasn't from the EU, and the destination wasn't in the EU.

Moreover I don't know which water the tanker was picked up in, but given how small the British waters are around Gibraltar its hard to believe the vessel was picked up there. If it was in Spanish waters, why didn't the Spanish stop it? Why did we have to do it? If it was in International waters then we have no more right to stop the vessel than the Iranians have to stop ours.
All very good questions which I haven't seen the answer too...


steveT350C

6,728 posts

163 months

Friday 19th July 2019
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fiatpower said:
A 2nd tanker has now been seized allegedly
Looks likely

Gandahar

9,600 posts

130 months

Friday 19th July 2019
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HMS Duncan is obviously not putting the wind up them

We need to send both our aircraft carriers to run into Iran at ramming speed, to sink the country.

Or wait for some aircraft.



booboise blueboys

546 posts

61 months

Friday 19th July 2019
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Frankly, I'm just glad we'll have a leader in a few days who has a good track record of dealing with the Iranians.

CoolHands

18,879 posts

197 months

Friday 19th July 2019
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We’re weak just as we our in our home grown justice. We will try ‘diplomacy’. They will be laughing at us; we should be kicking arse

Condi

17,418 posts

173 months

Friday 19th July 2019
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CoolHands said:
We’re weak just as we our in our home grown justice. We will try ‘diplomacy’. They will be laughing at us; we should be kicking arse
Given we impounded their tanker first, would you like a war if it was started by the Iranians (for taking their tanker hostage), or is it only OK to fight when they take one of ours?


If the Americans wish to go to war, let them, we shouldn't have to be involved. The Iranians have, until very recently, stuck to the agreement made with the 6 EU countries plus the US. The US then chose to exit the deal and put sanctions on Iran. It is hardly surprising that Iran have responded, I think so far they have been very restrained and all it has shown is how ineffective the EU is in the face of 1 orange balloon in the White House and his decisions, which may or may not be sensible or appropriate.

Stan the Bat

9,013 posts

214 months

Friday 19th July 2019
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Condi said:
CoolHands said:
We’re weak just as we our in our home grown justice. We will try ‘diplomacy’. They will be laughing at us; we should be kicking arse
Given we impounded their tanker first, would you like a war if it was started by the Iranians (for taking their tanker hostage), or is it only OK to fight when they take one of ours?


If the Americans wish to go to war, let them, we shouldn't have to be involved. The Iranians have, until very recently, stuck to the agreement made with the 6 EU countries plus the US. The US then chose to exit the deal and put sanctions on Iran. It is hardly surprising that Iran have responded, I think so far they have been very restrained and all it has shown is how ineffective the EU is in the face of 1 orange balloon in the White House and his decisions, which may or may not be sensible or appropriate.
Good post thumbup

eharding

13,829 posts

286 months

Friday 19th July 2019
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CoolHands said:
We’re weak just as we our in our home grown justice. We will try ‘diplomacy’. They will be laughing at us; we should be kicking arse
Calm down, Chuck Norris.

Precisely whose arse do you think should have been kicked by now, and with what?

Trevor555

4,467 posts

86 months

Friday 19th July 2019
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We impounded one of theirs, Iran felt it was unjustified.

Now they've got one of ours.

I guess it's just their way of making a point, or having something to bargain with?

I'm sure they wont be stupid enough to start beating the crew.

Countdown

40,285 posts

198 months

Friday 19th July 2019
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Condi said:
CoolHands said:
We’re weak just as we our in our home grown justice. We will try ‘diplomacy’. They will be laughing at us; we should be kicking arse
Given we impounded their tanker first, would you like a war if it was started by the Iranians (for taking their tanker hostage), or is it only OK to fight when they take one of ours?


If the Americans wish to go to war, let them, we shouldn't have to be involved. The Iranians have, until very recently, stuck to the agreement made with the 6 EU countries plus the US. The US then chose to exit the deal and put sanctions on Iran. It is hardly surprising that Iran have responded, I think so far they have been very restrained and all it has shown is how ineffective the EU is in the face of 1 orange balloon in the White House and his decisions, which may or may not be sensible or appropriate.
Very good post.

Another question worth asking is “Just why do the Americans seem keen on having a war with the Iranians?”

Sheets Tabuer

19,168 posts

217 months

Friday 19th July 2019
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Boris just tweeted it was training Iranian tankers.

abzmike

8,670 posts

108 months

Friday 19th July 2019
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Countdown said:
Very good post.

Another question worth asking is “Just why do the Americans seem keen on having a war with the Iranians?”
Sunni vs Shia.... The Saudis are Sunni, and the Americans friends

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

95 months

Friday 19th July 2019
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CoolHands said:
We’re weak just as we our in our home grown justice. We will try ‘diplomacy’. They will be laughing at us; we should be kicking arse
Barmy bd