The Future of Power Generation in Great Britain
Discussion
StanleyT said:
Were we going to use MOX in the UK?
My brief time on fuel plant was at the Preston plant. Probably touched a few of the graphite sleeves that made it to Heysham!!!!! Then again, probably not as everything I touched seemed to go wrong.........still does, hence doing something much less dangerous these days.
Not sure how seriously it was looked at, certainly talked about, especially when they were talking about using it to get rid of military plutonium.My brief time on fuel plant was at the Preston plant. Probably touched a few of the graphite sleeves that made it to Heysham!!!!! Then again, probably not as everything I touched seemed to go wrong.........still does, hence doing something much less dangerous these days.
Difficult enough when the irradiated fuel disposal equipment has a fault without having the new fuel equipment equally as dangerous
We also looked at radial shuffling, moving older fuel into the higher flux of the centre core, but that would mean double handling the fuel and a whole new safety case for how strong the fuel stringer tie bar is.
Paddy_N_Murphy said:
V8 Fettler said:
Not quite the world's largest electrical turbine, that record is currently held by Olkiluoto 3 (Finnish nuclear) at 2000MW
You're a whole new level of fun aren't you ?If you can't read - hell even understand the pictures..... you really should stop poking the pencils in your ears.
Paddy_N_Murphy said:
V8 Fettler said:
Paddy_N_Murphy said:
V8 Fettler said:
Not quite the world's largest electrical turbine, that record is currently held by Olkiluoto 3 (Finnish nuclear) at 2000MW
You're a whole new level of fun aren't you ?If you can't read - hell even understand the pictures..... you really should stop poking the pencils in your ears.
Paddy_N_Murphy said:
‘Lets’ not.
Your guesses and estimates have been wrong consistently.
Back up your claim or STFu
ETA - remember calling the Beast from the East a disaster of High pressure?
How did that work out.
Intellectual discussions based upon logic and evidence appear to be beyond your ability.Your guesses and estimates have been wrong consistently.
Back up your claim or STFu
ETA - remember calling the Beast from the East a disaster of High pressure?
How did that work out.
You can go for full-on bullying!
And lose that basis of argument too.
Ali G said:
67GWh - capacity factor being weather dependent.
Let's scale that down to a capacity factor close to 30% on an annual basis - so 20 GWh average...
Some basic arithmetic shows that the 67GWh figure is already based on the 63% load factor mentioned, so at 30% you're getting 31.7GWh.Let's scale that down to a capacity factor close to 30% on an annual basis - so 20 GWh average...
Paddy, why do they quote a 63% capacity factor in the marketing blurb, given that the actual figure will be site and weather dependant - Or are turbines not
capable of running 2/47 at full load even if the wind's there?
Also, "digital"??
silentbrown said:
Also, "digital"??
Looking at the GE website, it appears to be a marketing push for their cloud asset management software solution.Basically, the turbines are cloud connected, so the operator can get a real time dashboard giving the state of their wind turbine assets with just an internet connection and a monthly subscription, without needing to deploy their own IT solutions for data capture and monitoring.
https://www.gerenewableenergy.com/content/dam/gepo...
rolando said:
More depressing reading:
Capacity Market Still Fails To Trigger New CCGT
There's no doubt that someone will be along in a moment to tell us that there's no problem because the answer to the unreliables' intermittency question is just around the corner — powered by unicorn droppings.
No doubt a lot of clever people have put a lot of resource into designing and managing this market, so why do we end up with the National Grid issuing a "gas deficit warning" ? Shambles.Capacity Market Still Fails To Trigger New CCGT
There's no doubt that someone will be along in a moment to tell us that there's no problem because the answer to the unreliables' intermittency question is just around the corner — powered by unicorn droppings.
There's some background on Li-Ion batteries discussed here - future developments - and a spot of unreliable intermittent renewables which may require battery support.
No pictures!
A Life Scientific - Clare Grey chats with Jim Al-Khalili.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09tdr0r#play
Can be downloaded as a podcast.
No pictures!
A Life Scientific - Clare Grey chats with Jim Al-Khalili.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09tdr0r#play
Can be downloaded as a podcast.
what a thought.
I saw an advertisement for Ovo Energy last night where they were flogging a renewable energy only deal. They're not first to come up with this idea but they are the first I think to actively market the concept so it got me thinking what sleight of hand is going on here or are they potentially in breach of trading and advertising standards laws.
The star of the advert was a wind turbine but you don't need to spend too long looking at Gridwatch to know how that would end so what else do they class as renewable? I'm guessing nuclear, wood and solar but surely that's not going to be enough especially if lots of people sign up?
The star of the advert was a wind turbine but you don't need to spend too long looking at Gridwatch to know how that would end so what else do they class as renewable? I'm guessing nuclear, wood and solar but surely that's not going to be enough especially if lots of people sign up?
jurbie said:
I saw an advertisement for Ovo Energy last night where they were flogging a renewable energy only deal. They're not first to come up with this idea but they are the first I think to actively market the concept so it got me thinking what sleight of hand is going on here or are they potentially in breach of trading and advertising standards laws.
The star of the advert was a wind turbine but you don't need to spend too long looking at Gridwatch to know how that would end so what else do they class as renewable? I'm guessing nuclear, wood and solar but surely that's not going to be enough especially if lots of people sign up?
Wouldn't it be a hoot if such deals were not only real costs but also supply was only available when there was enough "renewable" energy being generated.The star of the advert was a wind turbine but you don't need to spend too long looking at Gridwatch to know how that would end so what else do they class as renewable? I'm guessing nuclear, wood and solar but surely that's not going to be enough especially if lots of people sign up?
jurbie said:
I saw an advertisement for Ovo Energy last night where they were flogging a renewable energy only deal. They're not first to come up with this idea but they are the first I think to actively market the concept so it got me thinking what sleight of hand is going on here or are they potentially in breach of trading and advertising standards laws.
The star of the advert was a wind turbine but you don't need to spend too long looking at Gridwatch to know how that would end so what else do they class as renewable? I'm guessing nuclear, wood and solar but surely that's not going to be enough especially if lots of people sign up?
SoEnergy are 100% renewables, they became so after I'd contracted to them. They don't include nuclear in this.The star of the advert was a wind turbine but you don't need to spend too long looking at Gridwatch to know how that would end so what else do they class as renewable? I'm guessing nuclear, wood and solar but surely that's not going to be enough especially if lots of people sign up?
jet_noise said:
jurbie said:
I saw an advertisement for Ovo Energy last night where they were flogging a renewable energy only deal. They're not first to come up with this idea but they are the first I think to actively market the concept so it got me thinking what sleight of hand is going on here or are they potentially in breach of trading and advertising standards laws.
The star of the advert was a wind turbine but you don't need to spend too long looking at Gridwatch to know how that would end so what else do they class as renewable? I'm guessing nuclear, wood and solar but surely that's not going to be enough especially if lots of people sign up?
Wouldn't it be a hoot if such deals were not only real costs but also supply was only available when there was enough "renewable" energy being generated.The star of the advert was a wind turbine but you don't need to spend too long looking at Gridwatch to know how that would end so what else do they class as renewable? I'm guessing nuclear, wood and solar but surely that's not going to be enough especially if lots of people sign up?
Lego, with their contract but a plastic brick mountain in storage, might not be too inconvenienced by fluctuation from the assets to which they are contracted.
However Google, Apple, Tesla and the Dutch Railway system (to name a few virtuous announcements I can recall reading about) might be slightly less convenienced.
When contracted infrastructure was thin on the ground. Ecotricity, as I recall, had a pitch about the money its clients were paying going into investment in infrastructure so that eventually the existing (then) coal, gas and nasty nuclear generation would be replaced with clean and green stuff. I don't remember them mentioning how country castles and football clubs counted as green investments but maybe they do in some way.
The smart meter revolution .....
I was talking to a neighbour at the weekend. Retired Phd with an engineering career behind him. Smart bloke.
A few years ago he had a smart meter fitted by then supplier EON.
He then changed supplier - I forget who he said but one of the well known names. They were unable to use the meter directly so he was back to taking readings. A year on and he swapped back to EON. For some reason they are also unable to take the automated readings now. So he is still providing manual readings often with multiple requests between billing points.
One would expect this to be a fairly basic systems admin task activity in this computer age.
One starts to wonder if there is any potential for customer side billing and admin incompetence to have influence over consumption markets in such a way that the market is compromised with a knock on effect to generation decisions.
I have no idea abut the possibilities but stranger things have happened in the past on other markets. One also has to wonder whether comapanies who are both generators and retailers in the market might have similar issues with all parts of their IT infrastructure (or any other part of their businesses). Why should retail be the only arm with problems?
I was talking to a neighbour at the weekend. Retired Phd with an engineering career behind him. Smart bloke.
A few years ago he had a smart meter fitted by then supplier EON.
He then changed supplier - I forget who he said but one of the well known names. They were unable to use the meter directly so he was back to taking readings. A year on and he swapped back to EON. For some reason they are also unable to take the automated readings now. So he is still providing manual readings often with multiple requests between billing points.
One would expect this to be a fairly basic systems admin task activity in this computer age.
One starts to wonder if there is any potential for customer side billing and admin incompetence to have influence over consumption markets in such a way that the market is compromised with a knock on effect to generation decisions.
I have no idea abut the possibilities but stranger things have happened in the past on other markets. One also has to wonder whether comapanies who are both generators and retailers in the market might have similar issues with all parts of their IT infrastructure (or any other part of their businesses). Why should retail be the only arm with problems?
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