Climate change - the POLITICAL debate (Vol 7)
Discussion
durbster said:
robinessex said:
Like I've said before when you start to unravel a question, so many factors exist that can affect the answer, you can't be dogmatic about what you get. But the general consensus ( had to put that in ) is that cold weather kills more than hot weather.
Nobody is disputing this.I think this balance of lives saved during winter time, would also vastly outweigh all the deaths that climate change worst case scenario advocates will attribute to "severe weather events" and their claimed increase in occurrence there of.
GroundZero said:
durbster said:
robinessex said:
Like I've said before when you start to unravel a question, so many factors exist that can affect the answer, you can't be dogmatic about what you get. But the general consensus ( had to put that in ) is that cold weather kills more than hot weather.
Nobody is disputing this.I think this balance of lives saved during winter time, would also vastly outweigh all the deaths that climate change worst case scenario advocates will attribute to "severe weather events" and their claimed increase in occurrence there of.
Although I don't think "we're all going to die!" has ever been on the list of major known threats from global warming.
johnboy1975 said:
Except it doesn't look like that image on the right, it looks like this:
See for yourself: https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather
Don't believe everything you see on the internet.
durbster said:
johnboy1975 said:
Except it doesn't look like that image on the right, it looks like this:See for yourself: https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather
Don't believe everything you see on the internet.
irc said:
I've not yet clicked on the link (or checked on Harrabins claim in fairness) but I can assure you we've had several downpours since that date.............I live in Usk 
This one was nice, dogs didn't like it though......
Diderot said:
durbster said:
johnboy1975 said:
Except it doesn't look like that image on the right, it looks like this:See for yourself: https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather
Don't believe everything you see on the internet.
The point being, 33 is now angry red. Wheras 35 was a sunshine sticker and a gentle reminder to stick a bit of suncream on (probably). Wheras now we are being warned to not go outside at midday and Kay Burnley is stating that we are forecast 40 degrees next week (despite knowing that we are not)
(Highs of 36 are forecast....nice and warm)
The Amber heat level issued includes the line "it's not just the vunerable who are at risk, the fit and healthy are as well". Demonstrated the other morning (again by KB) by a 16 year old who died in the high temperatures
Run the story on a few minutes, and turns out he died via drowning, when he went for an impromptu swim.durbster said:
Bacardi said:
Durbster, I asked your views regarding 'Professor' Flannery's Insane google eyed predictions a few days ago, quoting Hansen's stupid 25m sea level rises etc. And you completely ignored me... unsurprisingly... 
You didn't. You asked me to comment on some Murdoch hit piece on Flannery from Australia's version of Fox News, while saying you didn't trust scientists.johnboy1975 said:
The point being, 33 is now angry red. Wheras 35 was a sunshine sticker and a gentle reminder to stick a bit of suncream on (probably). Wheras now we are being warned to not go outside at midday and Kay Burnley is stating that we are forecast 40 degrees next week (despite knowing that we are not)
(Highs of 36 are forecast....nice and warm)
The Amber heat level issued includes the line "it's not just the vunerable who are at risk, the fit and healthy are as well". Demonstrated the other morning (again by KB) by a 16 year old who died in the high temperatures
Run the story on a few minutes, and turns out he died via drowning, when he went for an impromptu swim.At other times they use blue for cold - BLUE I ask you - in a temperature graphic!
It's pure psychological warfare.
kerplunk said:
johnboy1975 said:
The point being, 33 is now angry red. Wheras 35 was a sunshine sticker and a gentle reminder to stick a bit of suncream on (probably). Wheras now we are being warned to not go outside at midday and Kay Burnley is stating that we are forecast 40 degrees next week (despite knowing that we are not)
(Highs of 36 are forecast....nice and warm)
The Amber heat level issued includes the line "it's not just the vunerable who are at risk, the fit and healthy are as well". Demonstrated the other morning (again by KB) by a 16 year old who died in the high temperatures
Run the story on a few minutes, and turns out he died via drowning, when he went for an impromptu swim.At other times they use blue for cold - BLUE I ask you - in a temperature graphic!
It's pure psychological warfare.
What do you make of Harrabin and the BBC's most recent untruth? What could possibily the motive?
Diderot said:
We missed you KP. Durbster did a valliant job holding the fort, but we're glad you're back. All is now right with the incipient climate emergency (or should that be crisis?).
Indeed. So KP, a year has passed. Any thoughts as to why Lake Oroville is still short of water?I know you got as far as Wikipedia, but no further?
KP, Durbster & people who hold the same views could do the decent thing and admit that they've been mugged off for years, but for reasons best known to themselves, they've refused to admit it.
Totally up to them, but the reality is they're useful idiots. That's not an attempt to demean, it just gives us a clue as to the reason for their intransigence - they genuinely mean well (as do most of us), but they cannot see they're being used.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_zjhp5HyfI
Totally up to them, but the reality is they're useful idiots. That's not an attempt to demean, it just gives us a clue as to the reason for their intransigence - they genuinely mean well (as do most of us), but they cannot see they're being used.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_zjhp5HyfI
johnboy1975 said:
Diderot said:
durbster said:
johnboy1975 said:
Except it doesn't look like that image on the right, it looks like this:See for yourself: https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather
Don't believe everything you see on the internet.
dangerousB said:
KP, Durbster & people who hold the same views could do the decent thing and admit that they've been mugged off for years, but for reasons best known to themselves, they've refused to admit it.
Totally up to them, but the reality is they're useful idiots. That's not an attempt to demean, it just gives us a clue as to the reason for their intransigence - they genuinely mean well (as do most of us), but they cannot see they're being used.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_zjhp5HyfI
How many cold and hungry people will it take before they do though?? Totally up to them, but the reality is they're useful idiots. That's not an attempt to demean, it just gives us a clue as to the reason for their intransigence - they genuinely mean well (as do most of us), but they cannot see they're being used.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_zjhp5HyfI
It’s funny how these conspiracy theorist types always seem obsessed about one thing, we’ve got rob and the bbc, some weirdo and his lake, there’s the ones obsessed over Marxists and there’s the population nutter, some other guy and the great reset but they all band together and take comfort in their fringe beliefs. 
Then generally the thread’s (from the less nutty types) has moved on over the many years from no warming and expect rapid cooling soon (it’s all about tax etc) to its mainly natural and a Marxist plot to it’s quite man made to ok it’s mainly man made like the scientists say but it’s actually good because it’s better than cooling.
It’s like watching the end of a cult where the brainwashed members who’ve been following Turbobloke rather than science, reach the doomsday date but no spaceship arrives to take them to the new world so they’re having to alter their belief system to explain it.
Then generally the thread’s (from the less nutty types) has moved on over the many years from no warming and expect rapid cooling soon (it’s all about tax etc) to its mainly natural and a Marxist plot to it’s quite man made to ok it’s mainly man made like the scientists say but it’s actually good because it’s better than cooling.
It’s like watching the end of a cult where the brainwashed members who’ve been following Turbobloke rather than science, reach the doomsday date but no spaceship arrives to take them to the new world so they’re having to alter their belief system to explain it.
Bacardi said:
durbster said:
You asked me to comment on some Murdoch hit piece on Flannery from Australia's version of Fox News, while saying you didn't trust scientists.
I did. I asked you to comment on Flannery's prediction from 15 years ago. Where did I ask you to comment on the channel it was broadcast on? Irrelevant. You choose to turn it around to attack the channel because you don't like it. Flannery's old predictions are hardly going to be rebroadcast on CNN ABC or the Guardian are they.You mentioned 25 metre sea level rise which wasn't a prediction by Flannery, so what predictions are you talking about?
Bacardi said:
Nowhere did I say I don't trust scientists. Stop making up things that people didn't say just to suit your own agenda.
Then what did you mean by this?Bacardi said:
BOM, crooked as a dog's hind leg. We know of your love for 'qualified' tax payer funded 'experts'.
El stovey said:
It’s funny how these conspiracy theorist types always seem obsessed about one thing, we’ve got rob and the bbc, some weirdo and his lake, there’s the ones obsessed over Marxists and there’s the population nutter, some other guy and the great reset but they all band together and take comfort in their fringe beliefs.
Then generally the thread’s (from the less nutty types) has moved on over the many years from no warming and expect rapid cooling soon (it’s all about tax etc) to its mainly natural and a Marxist plot to it’s quite man made to ok it’s mainly man made like the scientists say but it’s actually good because it’s better than cooling.
It’s like watching the end of a cult where the brainwashed members who’ve been following Turbobloke rather than science, reach the doomsday date but no spaceship arrives to take them to the new world so they’re having to alter their belief system to explain it.
The doomsday date Then generally the thread’s (from the less nutty types) has moved on over the many years from no warming and expect rapid cooling soon (it’s all about tax etc) to its mainly natural and a Marxist plot to it’s quite man made to ok it’s mainly man made like the scientists say but it’s actually good because it’s better than cooling.
It’s like watching the end of a cult where the brainwashed members who’ve been following Turbobloke rather than science, reach the doomsday date but no spaceship arrives to take them to the new world so they’re having to alter their belief system to explain it.
How many predictions of climate doom have ever come to pass Stovey? (Rhetorical question). Diderot said:
The doomsday date How many predictions of climate doom have ever come to pass Stovey? (Rhetorical question).
No idea, must be loads of failed apocalyptic predictions, I’ve not repeated any though. How many predictions of climate doom have ever come to pass Stovey? (Rhetorical question). Obviously often exaggerated in the media or you lot trying to score points, or often actually made by the media. It doesn’t mean that all climate science is wrong now though or that science isn’t constantly improving and becoming more accurate?
The only dates I’ve seen anyone on here actually make though are turbobloke’s failed rapid cooling predictions that keep moving back.
Diderot said:
The doomsday date How many predictions of climate doom have ever come to pass Stovey? (Rhetorical question).
Ah, is it those mythical predictions of doom by climate scientists again? Deniers always talk about them as if they exist, yet have never been able to tell us what they were... How many predictions of climate doom have ever come to pass Stovey? (Rhetorical question). I suppose if your position is based on pure faith, believing they exist is all you need.
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