How do we think EU negotiations will go?
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PurpleMoonlight said:
What if people have changed their mind because of new information being available that wasn't at the time of the vote.
Would you still expect the original result to be adhered to?
Surely that applies to every single vote and election? Should be annul any general election after 6 months if new information becomes available?!Would you still expect the original result to be adhered to?
Route to madness and chaos.
Sway said:
Remove those tariffs, and acknowledge that it's cheaper to ship a container from China to here than it is to drive it across from Germany, and even a 30% increase in UK road haulage costs will see an overall reduction in cost of well into double digit percentages. 10MW solar farm (whether you agree with their validity or not) currently costs approx £120k more than it needs to...
o/t but i read a report the other day (it was from 2013 so things may have changed) stating that global solar panel manufacture had used significantly more energy than the panels had generated . i would imagine that the solar industry might not be one to invest in for the long term.wc98 said:
Sway said:
Remove those tariffs, and acknowledge that it's cheaper to ship a container from China to here than it is to drive it across from Germany, and even a 30% increase in UK road haulage costs will see an overall reduction in cost of well into double digit percentages. 10MW solar farm (whether you agree with their validity or not) currently costs approx £120k more than it needs to...
o/t but i read a report the other day (it was from 2013 so things may have changed) stating that global solar panel manufacture had used significantly more energy than the panels had generated . i would imagine that the solar industry might not be one to invest in for the long term.However, it's a great example of EU thinking - agree legislation that will drive a metric f
kton of spending, then place enormous tariffs on competitors so that a couple of massively inefficient German manufacturers can compete, driving the price up for everyone. Sway said:
Completely agree.
However, it's a great example of EU thinking - agree legislation that will drive a metric fkton of spending, then place enormous tariffs on competitors so that a couple of massively inefficient German manufacturers can compete, driving the price up for everyone.
Is there anything you see as wrong that the EU is not responsible for?However, it's a great example of EU thinking - agree legislation that will drive a metric f
kton of spending, then place enormous tariffs on competitors so that a couple of massively inefficient German manufacturers can compete, driving the price up for everyone. Sway said:
Completely agree.
However, it's a great example of EU thinking - agree legislation that will drive a metric fkton of spending, then place enormous tariffs on competitors so that a couple of massively inefficient German manufacturers can compete, driving the price up for everyone.
yes, it is a great example of what is wrong with the eu .i would imagine one of the many reasons people that actually looked into the pro's and cons pre referendum for themselves voted leave.However, it's a great example of EU thinking - agree legislation that will drive a metric f
kton of spending, then place enormous tariffs on competitors so that a couple of massively inefficient German manufacturers can compete, driving the price up for everyone. PurpleMoonlight said:
What if people have changed their mind because of new information being available that wasn't at the time of the vote.
Would you still expect the original result to be adhered to?
they will have the option of voting the lib dems into power to reverse brexit. democracy, a fantastic thing.Would you still expect the original result to be adhered to?
PurpleMoonlight said:
Is there anything you see as wrong that the EU is not responsible for?
Was just thinking that, we'll soon be free to show the world how to really do large scale I.T. projects, feed in tariffs, build nuclear power stations, run renewable energy schemes in Northern Ireland...PurpleMoonlight said:
Sway said:
Completely agree.
However, it's a great example of EU thinking - agree legislation that will drive a metric fkton of spending, then place enormous tariffs on competitors so that a couple of massively inefficient German manufacturers can compete, driving the price up for everyone.
Is there anything you see as wrong that the EU is not responsible for?However, it's a great example of EU thinking - agree legislation that will drive a metric f
kton of spending, then place enormous tariffs on competitors so that a couple of massively inefficient German manufacturers can compete, driving the price up for everyone. wc98 said:
Sway said:
Completely agree.
However, it's a great example of EU thinking - agree legislation that will drive a metric fkton of spending, then place enormous tariffs on competitors so that a couple of massively inefficient German manufacturers can compete, driving the price up for everyone.
yes, it is a great example of what is wrong with the eu .i would imagine one of the many reasons people that actually looked into the pro's and cons pre referendum for themselves voted leave.However, it's a great example of EU thinking - agree legislation that will drive a metric f
kton of spending, then place enormous tariffs on competitors so that a couple of massively inefficient German manufacturers can compete, driving the price up for everyone. Are the German manufacturers you refer to really, massively inefficient, or just operating on a non level playing field?
alfie2244 said:
Nothingtoseehere said:
alfie2244 said:
Really? So you have changed your mind and wish to change the way you voted?
He didn't vote.Pages about it about 9 months ago.
Nothingtoseehere said:
alfie2244 said:
Nothingtoseehere said:
alfie2244 said:
Really? So you have changed your mind and wish to change the way you voted?
He didn't vote.Pages about it about 9 months ago.
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jsf said:
babatunde said:
jsf said:
That would be the British public. Why people think we need a foreign body that has no skin in the game to protect us is beyond me, it's bonkers. If we don't like the bunch doing horrific things, we chuck them out.
Mainland Europe has a very poor record in this respect, Hitler, Mussolini, Franco and Salazar to name just 4 in the last century.
Brexit, because Hitler, is the most Godwin argument ever, pray tell which recess of your mind thinks that is a good negotiating pointMainland Europe has a very poor record in this respect, Hitler, Mussolini, Franco and Salazar to name just 4 in the last century.
"If we don't like the bunch doing horrific things, we chuck them out. Mainland Europe has a very poor record in this respect, Hitler, Mussolini, Franco and Salazar to name just 4 in the last century."
Who is the "bunch" doing horrific things? Who are you proposing to "chuck out"?
It sounds like more than an individual, more like a defined group.
Hitler had a record for getting rid of a "bunch" he persuaded his nation were doing "horrific things" and who were the source of the ills of Germany.
Or were you suggesting Germany should have "chucked out" Hitler? Chucked out to where? He was elected by the people of course. Are you suggesting Germany should have somehow ignored the "democratic will of the people" in getting rid of Hitler? Perhaps had another vote? He made that quite tricky in 1933 of course; fancy that, a government bring in an act to sweep away democracy & parliamentary powers (Great Repeal Bill anyone?).
alfie2244 said:
My mistake......result ignored then? Are you for real?
Yes, but it's a moot point as once A50 is triggered the ability to rescind it is questionable.I was just interested if leave voters thought it should be effected if subsequent developments changed peoples mind about wanting to leave.
PurpleMoonlight said:
alfie2244 said:
My mistake......result ignored then? Are you for real?
....I was just interested if leave voters thought it should be effected if subsequent developments changed peoples mind about wanting to leave.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff