Food banks - what is the real story
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s'. They are forum 10 Pence Short said:
C'mon guys. Yes, any system of help will have a broad mixture of people using it, from those in dire need to those, at the other end, who abuse it.
Generalising in lazy and stale stereotypes isn't an intelligent way to approach the subject.
It is a matter of fact that the price of food has risen out of proportion in recent times. It is also a matter of fact that you can't judge someone's cash flow now by their possessions.
Utter drivelGeneralising in lazy and stale stereotypes isn't an intelligent way to approach the subject.
It is a matter of fact that the price of food has risen out of proportion in recent times. It is also a matter of fact that you can't judge someone's cash flow now by their possessions.
edh said:
Lost soul said:
dfen5 said:
Let them give out vegetables and fruit and see how many people who would "otherwise starve" turn up.
Exactly right 
I have no doubt that many people who use food banks are in genuine need of their assistance.
That said, the likes of Lidl and Aldi sell decent, nutritious if not necessarily delicious food for peanuts so without wanting to sound like too much of a dick I do think with some people that perhaps they aren't "creative" enough to go buy a pack of chicken breasts and some pasta or rice and vegetables and get several meals out of it.
That said, the likes of Lidl and Aldi sell decent, nutritious if not necessarily delicious food for peanuts so without wanting to sound like too much of a dick I do think with some people that perhaps they aren't "creative" enough to go buy a pack of chicken breasts and some pasta or rice and vegetables and get several meals out of it.
Lost soul said:
edh said:
Lost soul said:
dfen5 said:
Let them give out vegetables and fruit and see how many people who would "otherwise starve" turn up.
Exactly right Lost soul said:
edh said:
Lost soul said:
dfen5 said:
Let them give out vegetables and fruit and see how many people who would "otherwise starve" turn up.
Exactly right Stupid comments will get
Du1point8 said:
Are these food banks mobile? I thought that they would be in buildings, so having a fridge of some sort is not out of the question so fruit and veg will be fine in there for several days/weeks before they start to go off... would be a good way to make people eat healthier rather than out of a can.
Better be a big fridge, & free power. Plus all the handling / disposal issues of perishable food. Even spuds go off (have you ever sorted through a 25kg sack of potatoes sifting out the rotten ones? not a nice job)Snozzwangler said:
Come on edh, speak up.
Chippety chop.
Another one without the power of rational thought...Chippety chop.
Maybe all 3 of you should get yourself down to a food bank and help out for the day, then come back and tell us what it's really like...
I know what a food bank is, so please stop saying people who are asking questions like this should go volunteer...
I just wonder why they choose not to have perishable goods, they sometimes state health and safety, so I can only assume that someone has tried to claim compensation off them at some time for being given 'bad' fresh produce, that is strange that perishables are ignored, fresh produce would easily be stored in a cool room in a basement, etc.
Also strange that Foodbanks can't do it but Fareshare can take perishables that are going to go to waste and distribute them out to charities for people to cook and that would take time.
Pretty much the same way that NHS has to use brand new crutches every time a patient needs them and throws away used ones or sometimes sends them to help centres, mostly destroys them.
I just wonder why they choose not to have perishable goods, they sometimes state health and safety, so I can only assume that someone has tried to claim compensation off them at some time for being given 'bad' fresh produce, that is strange that perishables are ignored, fresh produce would easily be stored in a cool room in a basement, etc.
Also strange that Foodbanks can't do it but Fareshare can take perishables that are going to go to waste and distribute them out to charities for people to cook and that would take time.
Pretty much the same way that NHS has to use brand new crutches every time a patient needs them and throws away used ones or sometimes sends them to help centres, mostly destroys them.
Du1point8 said:
I know what a food bank is, so please stop saying people who are asking questions like this should go volunteer...
I just wonder why they choose not to have perishable goods, they sometimes state health and safety, so I can only assume that someone has tried to claim compensation off them at some time for being given 'bad' fresh produce, that is strange that perishables are ignored, fresh produce would easily be stored in a cool room in a basement, etc.
Also strange that Foodbanks can't do it but Fareshare can take perishables that are going to go to waste and distribute them out to charities for people to cook and that would take time.
Pretty much the same way that NHS has to use brand new crutches every time a patient needs them and throws away used ones or sometimes sends them to help centres, mostly destroys them.
Tut tut tut, you should know edh can never be wrong.I just wonder why they choose not to have perishable goods, they sometimes state health and safety, so I can only assume that someone has tried to claim compensation off them at some time for being given 'bad' fresh produce, that is strange that perishables are ignored, fresh produce would easily be stored in a cool room in a basement, etc.
Also strange that Foodbanks can't do it but Fareshare can take perishables that are going to go to waste and distribute them out to charities for people to cook and that would take time.
Pretty much the same way that NHS has to use brand new crutches every time a patient needs them and throws away used ones or sometimes sends them to help centres, mostly destroys them.
The ideal labour candidate - don't answer questions, just spout garbage hoping the question will go away, that's the tactic.
Bet he wears a unison badge with pride.
anonymous said:
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Tories look to empower people to make their own decisions, Labour looks to give people things and keep them under control.I would like to know how many people using food banks have genuinely been to see a FA and looked at everything they can do before being accepted at a food bank, that they can only use X times?
What are the actual qualifications?
The below can sign you a voucher:
A doctor
A social worker
A health visitor
The police
Somebody from the Citizens Advice Bureau (CAB).
The church
I do not see anything about going to a financial adviser and being forced to submit your finances for review and being made sure that you comply by not wasting all the money you have on unnecessary expenditures.
Can someone who has used one enlighten me please.
Du1point8 said:
I know what a food bank is, so please stop saying people who are asking questions like this should go volunteer...
I just wonder why they choose not to have perishable goods, they sometimes state health and safety, so I can only assume that someone has tried to claim compensation off them at some time for being given 'bad' fresh produce, that is strange that perishables are ignored, fresh produce would easily be stored in a cool room in a basement, etc.
They tend to be in places where they can get access to a few shelves and not necessarily massive expensive chillers or basements I imagine.I just wonder why they choose not to have perishable goods, they sometimes state health and safety, so I can only assume that someone has tried to claim compensation off them at some time for being given 'bad' fresh produce, that is strange that perishables are ignored, fresh produce would easily be stored in a cool room in a basement, etc.
Du1point8 said:
Also strange that Foodbanks can't do it but Fareshare can take perishables that are going to go to waste and distribute them out to charities for people to cook and that would take time.
They do very little to provide doctors to warzones either. Different charities do different things, seems fairly reasonable and obvious to me.Du1point8 said:
Tories look to empower people to make their own decisions, Labour looks to give people things and keep them under control.
I would like to know how many people using food banks have genuinely been to see a FA and looked at everything they can do before being accepted at a food bank, that they can only use X times?
What are the actual qualifications?
The below can sign you a voucher:
A doctor
A social worker
A health visitor
The police
Somebody from the Citizens Advice Bureau (CAB).
The church
I do not see anything about going to a financial adviser and being forced to submit your finances for review and being made sure that you comply by not wasting all the money you have on unnecessary expenditures.
Can someone who has used one enlighten me please.
But that would be sensible.I would like to know how many people using food banks have genuinely been to see a FA and looked at everything they can do before being accepted at a food bank, that they can only use X times?
What are the actual qualifications?
The below can sign you a voucher:
A doctor
A social worker
A health visitor
The police
Somebody from the Citizens Advice Bureau (CAB).
The church
I do not see anything about going to a financial adviser and being forced to submit your finances for review and being made sure that you comply by not wasting all the money you have on unnecessary expenditures.
Can someone who has used one enlighten me please.
That's teaching a man to fish, food banks just throw fish at the man.
The problem is that people are scared of sounding nasty for saying it.
Du1point8 said:
I know what a food bank is, so please stop saying people who are asking questions like this should go volunteer...
I just wonder why they choose not to have perishable goods, they sometimes state health and safety, so I can only assume that someone has tried to claim compensation off them at some time for being given 'bad' fresh produce, that is strange that perishables are ignored, fresh produce would easily be stored in a cool room in a basement, etc.
Also strange that Foodbanks can't do it but Fareshare can take perishables that are going to go to waste and distribute them out to charities for people to cook and that would take time.
As I wrote, there are other initiatives for perishablesI just wonder why they choose not to have perishable goods, they sometimes state health and safety, so I can only assume that someone has tried to claim compensation off them at some time for being given 'bad' fresh produce, that is strange that perishables are ignored, fresh produce would easily be stored in a cool room in a basement, etc.
Also strange that Foodbanks can't do it but Fareshare can take perishables that are going to go to waste and distribute them out to charities for people to cook and that would take time.
Fresh produce is not "easily stored" though.. this isn't a just in time supply chain. Many food banks are only open a few times a week, and are operating from very limited premises. Church halls and similar. Handling non-perishables is so much easier, with shelf lives into months and years. I guess they will also consider the recipient's situation - often without a fridge, sometimes even without cooking facilities.
This is emergency food for three days, not an education in healthy eating.
Snozzwangler said:
Tut tut tut, you should know edh can never be wrong.
The ideal labour candidate - don't answer questions, just spout garbage hoping the question will go away, that's the tactic.
Bet he wears a unison badge with pride.
I was hoping you could think it through for yourself...The ideal labour candidate - don't answer questions, just spout garbage hoping the question will go away, that's the tactic.
Bet he wears a unison badge with pride.
Not in a union btw
Snozzwangler said:
Du1point8 said:
Tories look to empower people to make their own decisions, Labour looks to give people things and keep them under control.
I would like to know how many people using food banks have genuinely been to see a FA and looked at everything they can do before being accepted at a food bank, that they can only use X times?
What are the actual qualifications?
The below can sign you a voucher:
A doctor
A social worker
A health visitor
The police
Somebody from the Citizens Advice Bureau (CAB).
The church
I do not see anything about going to a financial adviser and being forced to submit your finances for review and being made sure that you comply by not wasting all the money you have on unnecessary expenditures.
Can someone who has used one enlighten me please.
But that would be sensible.I would like to know how many people using food banks have genuinely been to see a FA and looked at everything they can do before being accepted at a food bank, that they can only use X times?
What are the actual qualifications?
The below can sign you a voucher:
A doctor
A social worker
A health visitor
The police
Somebody from the Citizens Advice Bureau (CAB).
The church
I do not see anything about going to a financial adviser and being forced to submit your finances for review and being made sure that you comply by not wasting all the money you have on unnecessary expenditures.
Can someone who has used one enlighten me please.
That's teaching a man to fish, food banks just throw fish at the man.
The problem is that people are scared of sounding nasty for saying it.
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