Who will be the new Labour leader?

[johnxjsc1985]

MarshPhantom said:

PH always predicts a Tory majority, with UKIP a very stong second. How did they do again?

A lot better than Ed's predictions.Now the new guard are all staying a million miles from the Election...."no not me mate I believe in aspirational politics."

[0a]

Andy Burnham "backs 2016 poll as Tories add to pressure on PM over in/out referendum"

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/16/an...

[Fantic SuperT]

Regarding the dropout, I expected far worse: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3084677/Ex...
The proof Umunna is a condescending narcissistic hypocrite is par for the course.

Edited by Fantic SuperT on Sunday 17th May 00:35

[MGJohn]

Fantic SuperT said:

Regarding the dropout, I expected far worse: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3084677/Ex...

The proof Umunna is a condescending narcissistic hypocrite is par for the course.

Wow... that's a bit of a mouthful. I'd look the meaning up in a book if I knew how to read.

A diagram would be helpful. Sounds like a falling Hippo with a daff up it's jacksee.

[hornetrider]

Maybe Chuka could get Len McClusky on the guest list.

[Axionknight]

That's a shame - I was hoping for it to be a gay sex, dwarf and cocaine orgy.

Move along, nawt t'see here.

[Cobnapint]

Axionknight said:

That's a shame - I was hoping for it to be a gay sex, dwarf and cocaine orgy.

Move along, nawt t'see here.

Plenty to see - he was firmly behind a Labour leader that spent the whole election campaign criticising and distancing himself from the "rich and powerful".

Yet here he is living it up.

I bet they're all (Labour) at it! Hypocrites of the highest order.

[Axionknight]

Cobnapint said:

Plenty to see - he was firmly behind a Labour leader that spent the whole election campaign criticising and distancing himself from the "rich and powerful".

Yet here he is living it up.

I bet they're all (Labour) at it! Hypocrites of the highest order.

We all knew that anyway.

Pack of tools, the lot of 'em.

[turbobloke]

Fantic SuperT said:

Regarding the dropout, I expected far worse: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3084677/Ex...
The proof Umunna is a condescending narcissistic hypocrite is par for the course.

Which also explains some of the other criteria for membership, given that Chuka is in.

[Slaav]

anonymous said:

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Do 'we' really believe that these type of Politicians/people would be happy to sit back for 5 years and play the longer game if they thought they could grab the top job?

I would have thought that, by definition, these types are money/power/fame hungry gits that would step on their own grannies to climb any higher up the greasy pole?

Or I could be wrong of course???

[MGJohn]

Slaav said:

anonymous said:

[redacted]

Do 'we' really believe that these type of Politicians/people would be happy to sit back for 5 years and play the longer game if they thought they could grab the top job?

I would have thought that, by definition, these types are money/power/fame hungry gits that would step on their own grannies to climb any higher up the greasy pole?

Or I could be wrong of course???

No doubt some are like that. In that regard I view Gordon Brown who just had to be leader at any cost. The need for "power". Brown as PM was very costly... not only for the Labour Party.

Huge amount of fuss over nothing with the endless media attention to topics like who will be leader of two parties who will have little or no influence in Westminster for at least five years. Currently watching BBC1's Sunday Politics whilst trawling the web and most of the content so far has been UKIP/Labour leader related.

Enables Dave to keep his head down low profile ..... for the time being. His time will come...

[davepoth]

turbobloke said:

Fantic SuperT said:

Regarding the dropout, I expected far worse: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3084677/Ex...
The proof Umunna is a condescending narcissistic hypocrite is par for the course.

Which also explains some of the other criteria for membership, given that Chuka is in.

Daily Mail said:

Even the M&M chocolates are individually monogrammed with the club’s logo.

The reporter seems to have had a little bit of a logic fail there.

[Axionknight]

davepoth said:

The reporter seems to have had a little bit of a logic fail there.

Possibly not as you can get them stamped with anything you want, however if he has made a SNAFU there it is a pretty good one!

[Mr_B]

There isn't a whole lot about Chukka that says he gets the old Labour vote. Not for him traipsing some council estate talking to those he probably regards as trash. You do rather get the impression for him it was all about picking the party most likely to allow him to succeed and get on and make connections and then towing that party line. He looks about as phony as they come and I think people see past that a lot more now. He may have won his seat, but UK wide he would be reliant on a bullst image than any substance, although with the backing of the likes of the Guardian for whom he isn't the privately educated city lawyer toff elite because he picked the red rosette.

I think he will have his eyes on the London mayors job from now for a number of reasons. He can see that Labour probably won't rebuild in time for 2015 and that it may 2020 for any real hope of a Labour win, if at all. He has a far greater chance of securing votes in a London mayors election based on demographics alone. He sees it as a powerful job with connections but with much less responsibility and hassle than Labour leader or PM and finally, that if he was mayor it would be a good jumping point to go for party leader/PM.

[davepoth]

Axionknight said:

davepoth said:

The reporter seems to have had a little bit of a logic fail there.

Possibly not as you can get them stamped with anything you want, however if he has made a SNAFU there it is a pretty good one!

Restaurant logo:



I reckon the "journalist" thought it sounded salacious to the people who read the Daily Mail and who have presumably never seen an M&M...

[MarshPhantom]

Mr_B said:

There isn't a whole lot about Chukka that says he gets the old Labour vote. Not for him traipsing some council estate talking to those he probably regards as trash. You do rather get the impression for him it was all about picking the party most likely to allow him to succeed and get on and make connections and then towing that party line. He looks about as phony as they come and I think people see past that a lot more now. He may have won his seat, but UK wide he would be reliant on a bullst image than any substance, although with the backing of the likes of the Guardian for whom he isn't the privately educated city lawyer toff elite because he picked the red rosette.

I think he will have his eyes on the London mayors job from now for a number of reasons. He can see that Labour probably won't rebuild in time for 2015 and that it may 2020 for any real hope of a Labour win, if at all. He has a far greater chance of securing votes in a London mayors election based on demographics alone. He sees it as a powerful job with connections but with much less responsibility and hassle than Labour leader or PM and finally, that if he was mayor it would be a good jumping point to go for party leader/PM.

Absolutely right about London Mayor, couple of terms doing that then maybe Labour leader after that.

[Mermaid]

Mr_B said:

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I think he will have his eyes on the London mayors job from now for a number of reasons. He can see that Labour probably won't rebuild in time for 2015 and that it may 2020 for any real hope of a Labour win, if at all. He has a far greater chance of securing votes in a London mayors election based on demographics alone. He sees it as a powerful job with connections but with much less responsibility and hassle than Labour leader or PM and finally, that if he was mayor it would be a good jumping point to go for party leader/PM.

What's in it for London?

[Mr_B]

Mermaid said:

Mr_B said:

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I think he will have his eyes on the London mayors job from now for a number of reasons. He can see that Labour probably won't rebuild in time for 2015 and that it may 2020 for any real hope of a Labour win, if at all. He has a far greater chance of securing votes in a London mayors election based on demographics alone. He sees it as a powerful job with connections but with much less responsibility and hassle than Labour leader or PM and finally, that if he was mayor it would be a good jumping point to go for party leader/PM.

What's in it for London?

not much I would have thought if you think he's going to be an authentic Labour voice in power. I think he'd be another Boris type crossed with Lutfur Rahmann.

[turbobloke]

Mermaid said:

Mr_B said:

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I think he will have his eyes on the London mayors job from now for a number of reasons. He can see that Labour probably won't rebuild in time for 2015 and that it may 2020 for any real hope of a Labour win, if at all. He has a far greater chance of securing votes in a London mayors election based on demographics alone. He sees it as a powerful job with connections but with much less responsibility and hassle than Labour leader or PM and finally, that if he was mayor it would be a good jumping point to go for party leader/PM.

What's in it for London?

He's not an Oxford PPE=>beagle drone, small mercies etc.

[Cheese Mechanic]

Bully boy Mc Clusky threatening to take his ball home if the Labour chaos do not "elect" the "right " leader.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11...

Blimey,who'd a thunk it? Eh? Unions nothing like they were in the 70's,not extreme at all, eh?

Edited by Cheese Mechanic on Sunday 17th May 14:20