2021 Budget Predictions

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LordGrover

33,564 posts

214 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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Gary29 said:
For those of us unfortunate enough to still have to actually commute to work, I noticed fuel prices are rising quite nicely at the moment, even before Rishi sticks his mark up on it later.
Indeed. V-Power is now 10p /litre more than diesel - it used to be 10p more than 'regular'.

theboss

6,955 posts

221 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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Flooble said:
1) The handful of high earners at the top of an SME. Hence with the power to manipulate their package.
That's one way of putting it, I suppose hehe

Gary29

4,186 posts

101 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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LordGrover said:
Indeed. V-Power is now 10p /litre more than diesel - it used to be 10p more than 'regular'.
I keep track of my fuel spending, and use the same petrol station, there's been a 20% rise since July 2020, nearly back to peak high before the original lockdown last year. Has there really been that much of an increase in demand?

Or has production slowed as a result and now the demand has therefore increased?

Pissed me off no matter what the reason when I filled upyesterday.

Scootersp

3,234 posts

190 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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Biggy Stardust said:
The other side to what he was saying earlier is that if the hypothetical renter actually bought the house then he's denying the landlord any capital gain, so it's as broad as it's long. The argument is based on jealousy wrapped up in a veneer of social 'fairness'.
A veneer of social fairness? It's too late now but I do think that some form or legislation to limit this business would have been of benefit overall.

If buy to let had been restricted then the more wealthy couldn't have put as much of their money into it and so the only ones left to buy would have been the less wealthy and so prices would have been suppressed. My argument would be that an affordable place to live gives stability and the excess capital of others would be put to other more creative uses/investments, more risky yes perhaps but if you didn't like that you could just save it or spend it.

Then a persons home would be more affordable, and then not increased at such a rate above wages which makes it ever harder for the ones that follow.

If it makes me lefty so be it, but I think you can be lefty about certain issues without hating rich people or the capitalist system. I don't blame people for doing it (I have friends that have) as it's performed better than most other routes and at a reasonably low risk, I just believe had there been some form or restriction it would have been better for the country as a whole.



tobinen

9,284 posts

147 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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And he's on his feet...

Biggy Stardust

7,055 posts

46 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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Scootersp said:
Biggy Stardust said:
The other side to what he was saying earlier is that if the hypothetical renter actually bought the house then he's denying the landlord any capital gain, so it's as broad as it's long. The argument is based on jealousy wrapped up in a veneer of social 'fairness'.
A veneer of social fairness? It's too late now but I do think that some form or legislation to limit this business would have been of benefit overall.

If buy to let had been restricted then the more wealthy couldn't have put as much of their money into it and so the only ones left to buy would have been the less wealthy and so prices would have been suppressed. My argument would be that an affordable place to live gives stability and the excess capital of others would be put to other more creative uses/investments, more risky yes perhaps but if you didn't like that you could just save it or spend it.

Then a persons home would be more affordable, and then not increased at such a rate above wages which makes it ever harder for the ones that follow.

If it makes me lefty so be it, but I think you can be lefty about certain issues without hating rich people or the capitalist system. I don't blame people for doing it (I have friends that have) as it's performed better than most other routes and at a reasonably low risk, I just believe had there been some form or restriction it would have been better for the country as a whole.
Are you aware that there are about a hundred laws & 400 regulations on BTL plus licensing and similar?
Are you aware of the new rules & regulations pretty much every week, from special taxation to banning eviction?
Are you aware that if the government didn't raise tax from BTL then it would have to tax 'proper' people a bit more?
Are you aware that this still sounds like jealousy in the veneer of social 'fairness'?

Eric Mc

122,335 posts

267 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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Those newly established self employed people who missed out in the Self Employed Income Support Scheme (SEISS) will now be able to claim the final two grants (small consolation in my view).


Alucidnation

16,810 posts

172 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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Did i hear VAT reduced for the hospitality sector until April 2022?


dandarez

13,333 posts

285 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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Don't need to make predictions, unlike years ago when budgets were 'secret', these days everything (virtually) is released bit by bit in the days prior. Just like the lockdowns etc, everything (almost) is leaked in advance.

Sunak said: 'Damage coronavirus has done to the economy has been acute.'

I don't think coronavirus damaged the economy. It was the implementation of the restrictions and lockdowns etc, etc, that have done that.
Bit like saying roads are dangerous.

zygalski

7,759 posts

147 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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How’s magic Rishi paying for all of this?
I suspect if Labour were spending on this scale, this thread would be on fire.

Eric Mc

122,335 posts

267 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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Alucidnation said:
Did i hear VAT reduced for the hospitality sector until April 2022?
Yes.

Firstly a continuation of the current 5% rate and then an increase to 12.5% and finally back up to the full 20% in April 2022.

snotrag

14,644 posts

213 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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95% mortgages go again...? Not sure how I feel about it!

anonymous-user

56 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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zygalski said:
How’s magic Rishi paying for all of this?
I suspect if Labour were spending on this scale, this thread would be on fire.
Modern monetary theory apparently.

Eric Mc

122,335 posts

267 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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I'm sure he'll get to the tax increases shortly.

theboss

6,955 posts

221 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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snotrag said:
95% mortgages go again...? Not sure how I feel about it!
Gotta keep the party going at any cost...

zygalski

7,759 posts

147 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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El stovey said:
zygalski said:
How’s magic Rishi paying for all of this?
I suspect if Labour were spending on this scale, this thread would be on fire.
Modern monetary theory apparently.
Aka kicking the can down the road.

VAT to 25% within a couple of years?

baptistsan

1,839 posts

212 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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Sunak will do whatever it takes to fix the economy apparently.

Then lobby to get the country unlocked from this current madness.

paulw123

3,315 posts

192 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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zygalski said:
How’s magic Rishi paying for all of this?
I suspect if Labour were spending on this scale, this thread would be on fire.
Ironic one of the reasons they won the election was they weren’t going to spend like Labour was intending to. Utter joke.

Eric Mc

122,335 posts

267 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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What would you have done?

g4ry13

17,293 posts

257 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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I didn't vote for these socialists.