General Election July 2024
Discussion
cliffords said:
MC Bodge said:
MiniMan64 said:
Blue62 said:
Hard to believe anyone with an iota of intelligence could still think the Tories are an option.
Justice system is kaput, prisons overcrowded to the extent that criminals are being released early, while the police being asked to limit arrests.
NHS is on its knees.
Our defence budget is so bad that we can’t even pay for a D-Day flyover, with two massively over budget aircraft carriers, both late and without a full complement of aircraft.
The government is expected to spend almost £5bn on post Brexit border controls.
Schools are falling apart, we’ve had ten education secretaries since 2010.
Prices have increased by 20% in the last three years and taxation is at its highest level since WW2.
Immigration has reached record levels directly contradicting government promises and the less said about the Rwanda fiasco the better.
Universities have been hit hard by the reduction in foreign students and practically every local council is in financial difficulties, some facing bankruptcy.
To top it all we’ve had the previous two PM’s resign in disgrace. But Labour……..
This.Justice system is kaput, prisons overcrowded to the extent that criminals are being released early, while the police being asked to limit arrests.
NHS is on its knees.
Our defence budget is so bad that we can’t even pay for a D-Day flyover, with two massively over budget aircraft carriers, both late and without a full complement of aircraft.
The government is expected to spend almost £5bn on post Brexit border controls.
Schools are falling apart, we’ve had ten education secretaries since 2010.
Prices have increased by 20% in the last three years and taxation is at its highest level since WW2.
Immigration has reached record levels directly contradicting government promises and the less said about the Rwanda fiasco the better.
Universities have been hit hard by the reduction in foreign students and practically every local council is in financial difficulties, some facing bankruptcy.
To top it all we’ve had the previous two PM’s resign in disgrace. But Labour……..
In spades.
Edited by cliffords on Wednesday 22 May 21:41
The later they leave it the less able they are to do that.
JNW1 said:
MC Bodge said:
S600BSB said:
cliffords said:
As a life long Tory voter , I agree all these points and it is illogical and actually imoral to vote Tory this time . I do have a massive worry now though, with all these clear failures of the current government, why have Labour not set out a well thought out clear plan to make some of this better . They have been in opposition as long as the government have been in power. Why can they just not set out a good plan to deal with some of the mess. Thet just say it's bad , we can all agree, but seem to have no plan to make it better.
Imoral to vote Tory? Bit harsh. What would Labour need to do, allow the UK to be annexed by Russia?
MC Bodge said:
S600BSB said:
cliffords said:
As a life long Tory voter , I agree all these points and it is illogical and actually imoral to vote Tory this time . I do have a massive worry now though, with all these clear failures of the current government, why have Labour not set out a well thought out clear plan to make some of this better . They have been in opposition as long as the government have been in power. Why can they just not set out a good plan to deal with some of the mess. Thet just say it's bad , we can all agree, but seem to have no plan to make it better.
Imoral to vote Tory? Bit harsh. Abbott said:
So if Sunak has visited the King and put in place the dissolution of government. What happens if the s
t hits the fan in Ukraine and some political decisions need to be implemented to resolve the issue?
Our global influence has waned and we have been pretty much rudderless for a number of years now.t hits the fan in Ukraine and some political decisions need to be implemented to resolve the issue?Bill said:
Tankrizzo said:
I have a hunch, and I don't really know why, that Starmer won't see out the full term for some reason. And we will have Prime Minister Rayner.
Look on the bright side, there's no way he'll be replaced by Truss...carlo996 said:
Boringvolvodriver said:
I may be due a parrot but Labour haven’t been in power for 14 years
The salient point being they were unelectable, against what must be one of the worst governments in recent history. Not great is it?Tankrizzo said:
I have a hunch, and I don't really know why, that Starmer won't see out the full term for some reason. And we will have Prime Minister Rayner.
Not since the heyday of Diane Abbott, Emily Thornberry and the delightful Shami Chakrabarti has such an amazing vision crossed my mind. She would be fearless offering to take out smarmy foreign leaders with a punch or two
She would strike terror into the establishment
All that and still managing to look half decent at the end of PMQ's
ChocolateFrog said:
MC Bodge said:
S600BSB said:
cliffords said:
As a life long Tory voter , I agree all these points and it is illogical and actually imoral to vote Tory this time . I do have a massive worry now though, with all these clear failures of the current government, why have Labour not set out a well thought out clear plan to make some of this better . They have been in opposition as long as the government have been in power. Why can they just not set out a good plan to deal with some of the mess. Thet just say it's bad , we can all agree, but seem to have no plan to make it better.
Imoral to vote Tory? Bit harsh. Turkeys and Christmas.
GliderRider said:
It doesn't say much for the supposed democracy in which we live that the current prime minister can announce with a fair degree of certainty that it will be either him or Keir Starmer in the job after the election.
If we had an electoral system which allowed people to express their true views rather than having to resort to tactical voting, we might get politicians worthy of the job and the power they wield, as opposed to the current variety, with minimal experience of the real world, just seeking a cushy number for the next five years at our expense.
It's the same in most places, very few if any countries have a genuine three way race.If we had an electoral system which allowed people to express their true views rather than having to resort to tactical voting, we might get politicians worthy of the job and the power they wield, as opposed to the current variety, with minimal experience of the real world, just seeking a cushy number for the next five years at our expense.
Tankrizzo said:
I have a hunch, and I don't really know why, that Starmer won't see out the full term for some reason. And we will have Prime Minister Rayner.
Not Rayner (it is always someone with experience of a great office of state or LOTO), but I don't think we'll see a full term PM for another couple of decades because there is far too much fragmentation and social media turning every event into a minefield.Bill said:
Tankrizzo said:
I have a hunch, and I don't really know why, that Starmer won't see out the full term for some reason. And we will have Prime Minister Rayner.
Look on the bright side, there's no way he'll be replaced by Truss...Tankrizzo said:
I have a hunch, and I don't really know why, that Starmer won't see out the full term for some reason. And we will have Prime Minister Rayner.
I have a hunch your hunch will turn out like the hunches people had that Biden would make way for Kamala Harris to be U.S. President.Except Starmer isn't in his 70's, and would have zero reason to just hand over to Raynor.
Rivenink said:
Tankrizzo said:
I have a hunch, and I don't really know why, that Starmer won't see out the full term for some reason. And we will have Prime Minister Rayner.
I have a hunch your hunch will turn out like the hunches people had that Biden would make way for Kamala Harris to be U.S. President.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff