Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 2
Discussion
ViperPict said:
WhereamI said:
ViperPict said:
Hmmm. A BLOG in the Torygraph. It simply MUST be 100% accurate...
Ah VP we've missed you! So what is wrong with what is being said, care to point out any inaccuracies or are you just going to rolleyes and blame the telegraph?Not sure why the location of Scamond is relevant or even who Jimmy Krankie is supposed to refer to.
ViperPict said:
For a start, the article's not even about Salmond, only in the indirect sense that he leads the Tory party. Note that AS was not even present in the SP when wee Jimmy Krankie was jeered...
Of course fishface wasn't thereHe would be off on a jolly at taxpayers expense
You know part of me really hopes you get the Scotland you dream of with 95% tax on the rich
thinfourth2 said:
ViperPict said:
For a start, the article's not even about Salmond, only in the indirect sense that he leads the Tory party. Note that AS was not even present in the SP when wee Jimmy Krankie was jeered...
Of course fishface wasn't thereHe would be off on a jolly at taxpayers expense
You know part of me really hopes you get the Scotland you dream of with 95% tax on the rich
WhereamI said:
ViperPict said:
WhereamI said:
ViperPict said:
Hmmm. A BLOG in the Torygraph. It simply MUST be 100% accurate...
Ah VP we've missed you! So what is wrong with what is being said, care to point out any inaccuracies or are you just going to rolleyes and blame the telegraph?Not sure why the location of Scamond is relevant or even who Jimmy Krankie is supposed to refer to.
And talking about costs, what proportion of the social budget is Scotland's share of Trident?
And you don't seem to be following the basis for the blog (ignorant of Scottish politics?) if you do not undertand my reference...
ViperPict said:
thinfourth2 said:
ViperPict said:
For a start, the article's not even about Salmond, only in the indirect sense that he leads the Tory party. Note that AS was not even present in the SP when wee Jimmy Krankie was jeered...
Of course fishface wasn't thereHe would be off on a jolly at taxpayers expense
You know part of me really hopes you get the Scotland you dream of with 95% tax on the rich
WhereamI said:
ViperPict said:
thinfourth2 said:
ViperPict said:
For a start, the article's not even about Salmond, only in the indirect sense that he leads the Tory party. Note that AS was not even present in the SP when wee Jimmy Krankie was jeered...
Of course fishface wasn't thereHe would be off on a jolly at taxpayers expense
You know part of me really hopes you get the Scotland you dream of with 95% tax on the rich
TheHeretic said:
ViperPict said:
For a start, the article's not even about Salmond, only in the indirect sense that he leads the Tory party. Note that AS was not even present in the SP when wee Jimmy Krankie was jeered...
Wait...What? How is that showing the article as inaccurate? And how does it show that he indirectly leads the Tory party?ViperPict said:
Let's see how much the means testing to determine who should be and who should not be eligable for wholesale benefits will cost...
It works fine in the rest of the UKViperPict said:
And talking about costs, what proportion of the social budget is Scotland's share of Trident?
Scrapping trident will cost Scotland money. Scotland is the bit of the UK where most of the cost of maintaining trident is spent, it's where the subs and missiles are based. Scotland will be worse off without trident,ViperPict said:
And you don't seem to be following the basis for the blog (ignorant of Scottish politics?) if you do not undertand my reference...
I understand the basis for the blog but your puerile references to political figures by stupid names does wear a bit thin. WhereamI said:
ViperPict said:
Let's see how much the means testing to determine who should be and who should not be eligable for wholesale benefits will cost...
It works fine in the rest of the UKViperPict said:
And talking about costs, what proportion of the social budget is Scotland's share of Trident?
Scrapping trident will cost Scotland money. Scotland is the bit of the UK where most of the cost of maintaining trident is spent, it's where the subs and missiles are based. Scotland will be worse off without trident,ViperPict said:
And you don't seem to be following the basis for the blog (ignorant of Scottish politics?) if you do not undertand my reference...
I understand the basis for the blog but your puerile references to political figures by stupid names does wear a bit thin. And are you seriously saying that it would cost Scotland MORE not to have Trident? Really? Note that only the renewal of Trident will cost at least £35BN...
The fact that England and Wales do means testing does not mean that it is cost efficient...
Edited by ViperPict on Friday 5th October 22:57
ViperPict said:
So are the references to Salmond by stupid names purile too? I'm just providing some parity.
And are you seriously saying that it would cost Scotland MORE not to have Trident? Really? Note that only the renewal of Trident will cost at least £35BN...
The fact that England and Wales do means testing does not mean that it is cost efficient...
So Scotland can afford all the benefits handed out at the moment then?And are you seriously saying that it would cost Scotland MORE not to have Trident? Really? Note that only the renewal of Trident will cost at least £35BN...
The fact that England and Wales do means testing does not mean that it is cost efficient...
Edited by ViperPict on Friday 5th October 22:57
Remove trident and the cases attached to it and that's 5000direct jobs gone. Plus whatever indirect jobs.
I think most of the stupid names started from north of the border. I know I started using Scalmond when I got bored of some of your stupid names. I don't know who started it. Who is wee Jimmie crankie?
mcdjl said:
ViperPict said:
So are the references to Salmond by stupid names purile too? I'm just providing some parity.
And are you seriously saying that it would cost Scotland MORE not to have Trident? Really? Note that only the renewal of Trident will cost at least £35BN...
The fact that England and Wales do means testing does not mean that it is cost efficient...
So Scotland can afford all the benefits handed out at the moment then?And are you seriously saying that it would cost Scotland MORE not to have Trident? Really? Note that only the renewal of Trident will cost at least £35BN...
The fact that England and Wales do means testing does not mean that it is cost efficient...
Edited by ViperPict on Friday 5th October 22:57
Remove trident and the cases attached to it and that's 5000direct jobs gone. Plus whatever indirect jobs.
I think most of the stupid names started from north of the border. I know I started using Scalmond when I got bored of some of your stupid names. I don't know who started it. Who is wee Jimmie crankie?
If you mean the SG politician, have a wild guess based on appearances...
Must try harder...
ViperPict said:
If you mean the real one then you need to slap yourself.
If you mean the SG politician, have a wild guess based on appearances...
Must try harder...
Just looked it up. too young sorry. the appearance doesn't help. the Wikipedia page could be salmond.....if I had my eyes shut. If you mean the SG politician, have a wild guess based on appearances...
Must try harder...
Anything to say about the rest of my comments?
mcdjl said:
ViperPict said:
If you mean the real one then you need to slap yourself.
If you mean the SG politician, have a wild guess based on appearances...
Must try harder...
Just looked it up. too young sorry. the appearance doesn't help. the Wikipedia page could be salmond.....if I had my eyes shut. If you mean the SG politician, have a wild guess based on appearances...
Must try harder...
Anything to say about the rest of my comments?
ViperPict said:
mcdjl said:
ViperPict said:
If you mean the real one then you need to slap yourself.
If you mean the SG politician, have a wild guess based on appearances...
Must try harder...
Just looked it up. too young sorry. the appearance doesn't help. the Wikipedia page could be salmond.....if I had my eyes shut. If you mean the SG politician, have a wild guess based on appearances...
Must try harder...
Anything to say about the rest of my comments?
Wombat3 said:
ViperPict said:
mcdjl said:
ViperPict said:
If you mean the real one then you need to slap yourself.
If you mean the SG politician, have a wild guess based on appearances...
Must try harder...
Just looked it up. too young sorry. the appearance doesn't help. the Wikipedia page could be salmond.....if I had my eyes shut. If you mean the SG politician, have a wild guess based on appearances...
Must try harder...
Anything to say about the rest of my comments?
Edit: the nickname, NOT the person I hasten to add...
ViperPict said:
But he says 'Scalmond' which does not work. And Scamond is still just not original, is it? I am quite proud of 'wee Jimmy Krankie' though...
Edit: the nickname, NOT the person I hasten to add...
WGAF, its all diversionary bks to destract from some of the issues that are coming out as fat Alex's (and your) precious campaign for flag waving & face painting is unravelling by the day. But as you say, still 2 years to go & at this rate, by that time it will be a 99:1 vote in favour of the Union. Your cause is already dead in the water. Edit: the nickname, NOT the person I hasten to add...
Fat Alex should have just got on with it & had his vote quickly, it was the best chance he had, instead of which he is consigned to watching his dreams slip inexorably down the plug hole over the next two years. Couldn't happen to a nicer wker
Edited by Wombat3 on Friday 5th October 23:59
Wombat3 said:
ViperPict said:
But he says 'Scalmond' which does not work. And Scamond is still just not original, is it? I am quite proud of 'wee Jimmy Krankie' though...
Edit: the nickname, NOT the person I hasten to add...
WGAF, its all diversionary bks to destract from some of the issues that are coming out as fat Alex's (and your) precious campaign for flag waving & face painting is unravelling by the day. But as you say, still 2 years to go & at this rate, by that time it will be a 99:1 vote in favour of the Union. Your cause is already dead in the water. Edit: the nickname, NOT the person I hasten to add...
Fat Alex should have just got on with it & had his vote quickly, it was the best chance he had, instead of which he is consigned to watching his dreams slip inexorably down the plug hole over the next two years. Couldn't happen to a nicer wker
Edited by Wombat3 on Friday 5th October 23:59
May have been the masterplan all along...
ViperPict said:
The cause is already won to some extent. There are already more powers for the devolved parliament and more to come. Indendence may well come though 'death by a thousand cuts', so to speak. It may be a gradual process and, at some point we'll realise, 'Hey, we pretty much ARE independent'...
May have been the masterplan all along...
I agree with the master-plan concept - in that around 2014-2015 Holyrood will have to balance the books from local taxation, through powers ceded from Westminster....and much will be the wailing and gnashing of teeth, and the realisation by the Nationalists that there have been more than one "master-plans" in play....May have been the masterplan all along...
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