Climate change - the POLITICAL debate.
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Pesty said:
Ali G said:
Happy82 said:
Pesty said:
Can we stop calling them Windymills please. can we?
These things slice up birds and then explode when the wind is too strong, not what a windmill should be doing
Should call them UPCs instead (Useless pieces of crap)
Windys
ts!Windycraps?
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ttymills!Millys
ts (that may already be reserved for the leader of the oppo)Any other suggestions?
wind turbines will do. You can put useless pieces of s
t wind turbines if you wish 
"Ooooo lets build us a bunch of windymills - that'll sort eeevvveryffiinnggg"
Typical yoghurt weaving philospophy.
We'll be going back to sailing ships before soon using this mentality.
Whilst fusion is not yet on the table, fission is - and much more realistic than a bunch of useless windymills littering the landscape and seasscape.
The name seems appropriate to me.
But maybe we need Windy Miller to look after them...
perdu said:
Happy82 said:
LongQ said:
Err, well, I decided to run a Google search and discovered that it is, sadly, not an original idea. Seems that some Kiwis got there first. (Sorry good friends in NZ, had not come across your web site until 3 minutes ago ...)
http://www.disturbines.org.nz/
Good find! http://www.disturbines.org.nz/
Mind if I use that for while?
Would be interesting to see if we could raise the profile of the NZ site within the Google search mechanism on the basis of using the word.
LongQ said:
Would be interesting to see if we could raise the profile of the NZ site within the Google search mechanism on the basis of using the word.
What? You mean I should write Disturbines? Viral marketing? It'll never work. hidetheelephants said:
What? You mean I should write Disturbines? Viral marketing? It'll never work.
And it would be very childish. 
hidetheelephants said:
LongQ said:
Would be interesting to see if we could raise the profile of the NZ site within the Google search mechanism on the basis of using the word.
What? You mean I should write Disturbines? Viral marketing? It'll never work. Disturbines
An interesting word construct that could have great significance for Climate Change and Global Warming solutions.
Guam said:
Breaking news on Sky
Canada pulls out of Kyoto, no facts yet time for netsearching
Reuters: http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/12/us-kyoto...
BBC http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-1593...
Hopefully, the first of many.....Canada pulls out of Kyoto, no facts yet time for netsearching
Reuters: http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/12/us-kyoto...
BBC http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-1593...
Edited by Guam on Monday 12th December 22:23
Edited by Guam on Monday 12th December 22:25
LongQ said:
Yes, something like that.
Disturbines
An interesting word construct that could have great significance for Climate Change and Global Warming solutions.
You could be right! Disturbines
An interesting word construct that could have great significance for Climate Change and Global Warming solutions.
LongQ said:
Not my copyright so ...
Would be interesting to see if we could raise the profile of the NZ site within the Google search mechanism on the basis of using the word.
AhWould be interesting to see if we could raise the profile of the NZ site within the Google search mechanism on the basis of using the word.
you mean quite a bit like wot I just did with links from some places?
it's about ten or less down the Goog at the moment
I wonder how long it will be before Goog stops asking me if I mean disturbing instead of disturbines?
Kyoto, Canada seemed likely to bail at some time to me.
Anyone told the Huhneymonster? And the ship's steward?
(would you believe I just forgot Prescabilly's name for a sec?)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16151310
Canada will formally withdraw from the Kyoto Protocol on climate change, the minister of the environment has said.
Peter Kent said the protocol "does not represent a way forward for Canada" and the country would face crippling fines for failing to meet its targets.
The move, which is legal and was expected, makes it the first nation to pull out of the global treaty.
The protocol, initially adopted in Kyoto, Japan, in 1997, is aimed at fighting global warming.
"Kyoto, for Canada, is in the past, and as such we are invoking our legal right to withdraw from Kyoto," Mr Kent said in Toronto.
He said he would be formally advising the United Nations of his country's intention to pull out.
'Impediment'
He said the cost of meeting Canada's obligations under Kyoto would cost $13.6bn (10.3bn euros; £8.7bn): "That's $1,600 from every Canadian family - that's the Kyoto cost to Canadians, that was the legacy of an incompetent Liberal government".
Canada will formally withdraw from the Kyoto Protocol on climate change, the minister of the environment has said.
Peter Kent said the protocol "does not represent a way forward for Canada" and the country would face crippling fines for failing to meet its targets.
The move, which is legal and was expected, makes it the first nation to pull out of the global treaty.
The protocol, initially adopted in Kyoto, Japan, in 1997, is aimed at fighting global warming.
"Kyoto, for Canada, is in the past, and as such we are invoking our legal right to withdraw from Kyoto," Mr Kent said in Toronto.
He said he would be formally advising the United Nations of his country's intention to pull out.
'Impediment'
He said the cost of meeting Canada's obligations under Kyoto would cost $13.6bn (10.3bn euros; £8.7bn): "That's $1,600 from every Canadian family - that's the Kyoto cost to Canadians, that was the legacy of an incompetent Liberal government".
dickymint said:
But this is just a smokescreen. The REAL fakery is in the data and the graphs supporting AGW. It is THOSE things that should be targetted.Here's a link to the Telegraph's take on Canada's withdrawal from Kyoto.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/clima...
Unfortunately, all the time people with such public clout as those below swallow and spew the same st, it'll be harder for the realists. As I've said before, the green lobyy have successfully made belief in AGW trendy, and we all know what a bunch of trend obsessed fkwits the world has become.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthpicturegalle...
Editted to add, makes me laugh that Branson's one of the famous faces, when he own's a bloody airline!!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/clima...
Unfortunately, all the time people with such public clout as those below swallow and spew the same s
t, it'll be harder for the realists. As I've said before, the green lobyy have successfully made belief in AGW trendy, and we all know what a bunch of trend obsessed fkwits the world has become.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthpicturegalle...
Editted to add, makes me laugh that Branson's one of the famous faces, when he own's a bloody airline!!
Edited by AshVX220 on Tuesday 13th December 09:58
Jasandjules said:
dickymint said:
But this is just a smokescreen. The REAL fakery is in the data and the graphs supporting AGW. It is THOSE things that should be targetted.AshVX220 said:
Here's a link to the Telegraph's take on Canada's withdrawal from Kyoto.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/clima...
Unfortunately, all the time people with such public clout as those below swallow and spew the same st, it'll be harder for the realists. As I've said before, the green lobyy have successfully made belief in AGW trendy, and we all know what a bunch of trend obsessed fkwits the world has become.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthpicturegalle...
Editted to add, makes me laugh that Branson's one of the famous faces, when he own's a bloody airline!!
I can't see Branson's space flight plaything being a symbol of ecological care either but no doubt his people will have some sort of spin in that too. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/clima...
Unfortunately, all the time people with such public clout as those below swallow and spew the same s
t, it'll be harder for the realists. As I've said before, the green lobyy have successfully made belief in AGW trendy, and we all know what a bunch of trend obsessed fkwits the world has become.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthpicturegalle...
Editted to add, makes me laugh that Branson's one of the famous faces, when he own's a bloody airline!!
Edited by AshVX220 on Tuesday 13th December 09:58
British government, through its High Commission, funds Canadian anti oil sand pressure group to the tune of $60,000.
Link
Link
Article said:
It’s almost certain that Britain’s prime minister David Cameron wasn’t aware, at least till now, that his taxpayers have been footing the bill for activists working to harm Canadian industry. It was left to Nathan Skolski, a spokesman for the British High Commission, to defend the funding. It is, he said, “vital” that his government “persuade other countries to reduce their emissions” because Britain’s “prosperity and security” are threatened by climate change, according to the Post story.
Blib said:
British government, through its High Commission, funds Canadian anti oil sand pressure group to the tune of $60,000.
Link
Another buffoon up to the same tricks as others. There should be a prize for buffoonery at that level. Oh yes, Nobel.Link
Article said:
It’s almost certain that Britain’s prime minister David Cameron wasn’t aware, at least till now, that his taxpayers have been footing the bill for activists working to harm Canadian industry. It was left to Nathan Skolski, a spokesman for the British High Commission, to defend the funding. It is, he said, “vital” that his government “persuade other countries to reduce their emissions” because Britain’s “prosperity and security” are threatened by climate change, according to the Post story.
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