UKIP First 100 Days WTF!!!

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Countdown

40,285 posts

198 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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JensenA said:
Countdown said:
Scuffers said:
??

look, it's actually quite easy.

a non-gay person does not introduce themselves as such do they? they don;t have tee-shirts made with "I'm straight, get over it" emblazoned in them do they?

why do (some) Gay people feel the need to tell us (at our expense)?

I honestly don't care if who I am speaking/dealing with is gay or straight, I simply don't see the need to be told like it's paramount to whatever interactions I might be having with them.
rofl

Would I be right in assuming you're over 60?
Are you trying to say there's something wrong with people over 60? Are you implying that people over 60 all hold similar views? Are you trying to stereotype people over 60?

I'm with Scuffers on this one.
The suggestion that gay people went around wearing tshirts announcing their homosexuality I found to be rather quaint and not very "worldly" smile.I've only come across these kinds of views from older people, pensioners etc...the type who complain that not being able to use words such as "poofter", "wog", "", "nig nog" is "PC gone mad" and a product of the liberal lefty brigade.

Reminded me of the woman in "meet the kippers"

Scuffers

20,887 posts

276 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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968 said:
Scuffers said:
So, oh great one, what would you describe him as?

Gay zellot?
Gay rights warrior?
Why describe him as anything other than a previous environment secretary? Why have to define him by his sexuality at all?
I wouldn't except he chose to bring his sexuality into his work, and divert public funds to support his cause.


968

11,970 posts

250 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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Scuffers said:
I wouldn't except he chose to bring his sexuality into his work, and divert public funds to support his cause.
Ok fine, criticise that, why use a perjorative insult? It shows incredible immaturity.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

241 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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Countdown said:
JensenA said:
Countdown said:
Scuffers said:
??

look, it's actually quite easy.

a non-gay person does not introduce themselves as such do they? they don;t have tee-shirts made with "I'm straight, get over it" emblazoned in them do they?

why do (some) Gay people feel the need to tell us (at our expense)?

I honestly don't care if who I am speaking/dealing with is gay or straight, I simply don't see the need to be told like it's paramount to whatever interactions I might be having with them.
rofl

Would I be right in assuming you're over 60?
Are you trying to say there's something wrong with people over 60? Are you implying that people over 60 all hold similar views? Are you trying to stereotype people over 60?

I'm with Scuffers on this one.
The suggestion that gay people went around wearing tshirts announcing their homosexuality I found to be rather quaint and not very "worldly" smile.I've only come across these kinds of views from older people, pensioners etc...the type who complain that not being able to use words such as "poofter", "wog", "", "nig nog" is "PC gone mad" and a product of the liberal lefty brigade.

Reminded me of the woman in "meet the kippers"
There you go again, prejudging all elderly people based on your own narrow preconceptions. Funny how supposed liberals are anything but when you scratch below the surface.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

276 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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968 said:
Scuffers said:
I wouldn't except he chose to bring his sexuality into his work, and divert public funds to support his cause.
Ok fine, criticise that, why use a perjorative insult? It shows incredible immaturity.
So, once again, what would you call him?

Way i see it, abuse your position in public office, expect to be pilloried

Countdown

40,285 posts

198 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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WinstonWolf said:
There you go again, prejudging all elderly people based on your own narrow preconceptions. Funny how supposed liberals are anything but when you scratch below the surface.
I think you might need to change your reading glasses grandad.....

Where have I said that ALL old people are the same?

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

241 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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Countdown said:
WinstonWolf said:
There you go again, prejudging all elderly people based on your own narrow preconceptions. Funny how supposed liberals are anything but when you scratch below the surface.
I think you might need to change your reading glasses grandad.....

Where have I said that ALL old people are the same?
Why ask scuffers if he's over 60 if you're not ageist?

What is your perceived issue with people over sixty?

TTwiggy

11,574 posts

206 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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Scuffers said:
So, oh great one, what would you describe him as?

Gay zellot?
Gay rights warrior?
Well, to clarify, gay is fine. If you feel that he is a gay rights warrior, then I guess that's fine too. Poofter, whether raving or not, is not fine.

I now expect lots of cries of 'well nobody sent me a memo on which words are ok to use.' After all, we've already had the predictable attempts to divert attention with accusations of age prejudice. Sometimes it almost seems scripted in here.

Countdown

40,285 posts

198 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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WinstonWolf said:
Why ask scuffers if he's over 60 if you're not ageist?
I'm wondering iwhether his homophobia is down to his cultural upbringing.

To try and keep it on topic.....do other UKIP supporters share Scuffers' homophobia? I notice none have condemned it.

TTwiggy

11,574 posts

206 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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WinstonWolf said:
Why ask scuffers if he's over 60 if you're not ageist?

What is your perceived issue with people over sixty?
Do you remember all those people on the Rotherham thread, who were asking Zuby84 if he drove a taxi? Were they all racists then?

don4l

10,058 posts

178 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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968 said:
Scuffers said:
I wouldn't except he chose to bring his sexuality into his work, and divert public funds to support his cause.
Ok fine, criticise that, why use a perjorative insult? It shows incredible immaturity.
Chris Smith promoted Gay Rights using money that was intended to protect peoples' homes.

As a result, hundreds, if not thousands, of people suffered terribly.

Should he be punished for this?





Scuffers

20,887 posts

276 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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Why is it so hard for you to understand i was trying to insult the moron?

968

11,970 posts

250 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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don4l said:
Chris Smith promoted Gay Rights using money that was intended to protect peoples' homes.

As a result, hundreds, if not thousands, of people suffered terribly.

Should he be punished for this?
If your allegation is true, then he should face a parliamentary select committee to answer these allegations. However, calling him a raving poofter, is a pathetically immature and frankly homophobic comment.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

241 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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Countdown said:
WinstonWolf said:
Why ask scuffers if he's over 60 if you're not ageist?
I'm wondering iwhether his homophobia is down to his cultural upbringing.

To try and keep it on topic.....do other UKIP supporters share Scuffers' homophobia? I notice none have condemned it.
rofl it's funny when you're hoisted by your own petard.

Matt Nunns a racist, turns out you're ageist. Brilliant...

JensenA

5,671 posts

232 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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TTwiggy said:
Those people rushing to nail their colours to Scuffers' mast might need reminding that the issue here is his use of the phrase 'raving poofter'.
My mate Keith is a raving poofter - he finds it quite amusing.

Countdown

40,285 posts

198 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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WinstonWolf said:
rofl it's funny when you're hoisted by your own petard.

Matt Nunns a racist, turns out you're ageist. Brilliant...
I notice you've not actually condemned Scuffers' comments. Does that make you an apologist?

It's "hoist" by the way.... wink

968

11,970 posts

250 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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Scuffers said:
Why is it so hard for you to understand i was trying to insult the moron?
It's clear you were trying to insult him, but you seem to lack the understanding that insulting people on the basis of their sexual orientation, colour, beliefs etc is wrong. It's quite appropriate that such attitudes should be displayed by a UKIPer because it confirms the suspicion many have that it is a party full of bigots, supported by bigots.

TTwiggy

11,574 posts

206 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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Scuffers said:
Why is it so hard for you to understand i was trying to insult the moron?
So let's imagine he was black rather than gay. How would you go about insulting him then?

968

11,970 posts

250 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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JensenA said:
My mate Keith is a raving poofter - he finds it quite amusing.
Do you talk to your black friends in a chalky accent too?

TTwiggy

11,574 posts

206 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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JensenA said:
My mate Keith is a raving poofter - he finds it quite amusing.
And in other breaking news: black rappers often use the n-word...