Farage stands down as UKIP leader

[Trabi601]

alfie2244 said:

What did you disagree with in that video and why?

Farage, because he's a self centred, racist pk.

Edited by Big Al. on Friday 8th July 11:49

[alfie2244]

Trabi601 said:

alfie2244 said:

What did you disagree with in that video and why?

Farage, because he's a self centred, racist pk.

You need to grow up mate.....ignored from now on... but I am sure you aren't bothered.

[Trabi601]

alfie2244 said:

You need to grow up mate.....ignored from now on... but I am sure you aren't bothered.

No, I won't miss the attention of a Kipper.

[Greg_D]

Trabi601 said:

alfie2244 said:

You need to grow up mate.....ignored from now on... but I am sure you aren't bothered.

No, I won't miss the attention of a Kipper.

You're quite the charmer, aren't you!!!

[Sylvaforever]

Here's an original idea.

If you don't like or agree with a thread title or content just ignore it.

[walm]

Sylvaforever said:

Here's an original idea.

If you don't like or agree with a thread title or content just ignore it.

Then we wouldn't have a forum.

[Sylvaforever]

walm said:

Sylvaforever said:

Here's an original idea.

If you don't like or agree with a thread title or content just ignore it.

Then we wouldn't have a forum.

Then we wouldn't have a forum full of bile. EFA.

[walm]

Sylvaforever said:

walm said:

Sylvaforever said:

Here's an original idea.

If you don't like or agree with a thread title or content just ignore it.

Then we wouldn't have a forum.

Then we wouldn't have a forum full of bile. EFA.

It's possible to disagree without bile!

[BMRuss]

Trabi601 said:

Farage, because he's a self centred, racist pk.

Edited by Big Al. on Friday 8th July 11:49

Wow, any need to be quite so aggressive?

Of course you're entitled to your opinions, as are everyone else, but for me Farage has been nothing short of brilliant dealing with the EU over the past 17 years and he's achieved more in that time than anyone else that I can think of.

If anyone has experience dealing with these EU bods it's him and he should be heavily involved now, when Farage speaks, people listen.

[Trabi601]

BMRuss said:

Wow, any need to be quite so aggressive?

Of course you're entitled to your opinions, as are everyone else, but for me Farage has been nothing short of brilliant dealing with the EU over the past 17 years and he's achieved more in that time than anyone else that I can think of.

If anyone has experience dealing with these EU bods it's him and he should be heavily involved now, when Farage speaks, people listen.

He rarely turned up to do a day's work. He's a disgrace and no better than the people he claimed to be campaigning against.

Even now, he's refusing to give up his seat - mostly because he's on a nice little earner with a nice pension to come when he does.

Hypocrite of the highest order.

[BMRuss]

Trabi601 said:

He rarely turned up to do a day's work. He's a disgrace and no better than the people he claimed to be campaigning against.

Even now, he's refusing to give up his seat - mostly because he's on a nice little earner with a nice pension to come when he does.

Hypocrite of the highest order.

Sorry but that's just nonsense.

Why should he give up his seat then? Are we out of the EU now?

He's more than earned his money, after all, paying Tusk €300k is definitely good value for money

[Thorodin]

Trabi601 said:

He rarely turned up to do a day's work. He's a disgrace and no better than the people he claimed to be campaigning against.

Even now, he's refusing to give up his seat - mostly because he's on a nice little earner with a nice pension to come when he does.

Hypocrite of the highest order.

He's more effective than the people he claimed to be campaigning against, he took them all on and won. No mean feat.

He should keep his seat until his work is completed, expected around 2 years time. He should not abandon a job half done like Cameron, Johnson, Gove.

No hypocrite, he told them at the beginning exactly what he was there for, endured long term ridicule and derision, persevered and won.

Do you fully understand the language you use?

[Greg_D]

Trabi601 said:

BMRuss said:

Wow, any need to be quite so aggressive?

Of course you're entitled to your opinions, as are everyone else, but for me Farage has been nothing short of brilliant dealing with the EU over the past 17 years and he's achieved more in that time than anyone else that I can think of.

If anyone has experience dealing with these EU bods it's him and he should be heavily involved now, when Farage speaks, people listen.

He rarely turned up to do a day's work. He's a disgrace and no better than the people he claimed to be campaigning against.

Even now, he's refusing to give up his seat - mostly because he's on a nice little earner with a nice pension to come when he does.

Hypocrite of the highest order.

not really, he's made absolutely no bones about his intention of destroying it from within.
He is proud to be a cuckoo in the nest, why would he go to meetings and other nonsense to waffle on about subsidies for Estonian hippo farmers when he can continue to undermine them???

and yes, why not sit it out and take his due, i would?

Serious question, can you name one other politician who has dedicated their entire career to a single aim that has actually been instrumental in pulling it off? I can't!!!

That said, i do recognise his limitations, his mouth does run away with him sometimes. You need a very different type of person to doggedly pursue a single agenda for so long, those personality traits do not necessarily gel with the consensus building that will be necessary during the negotiations. To that end, he is probably best out of the picture during that process.

[Trabi601]

BMRuss said:

Sorry but that's just nonsense.

Why should he give up his seat then? Are we out of the EU now?

He's more than earned his money, after all, paying Tusk €300k is definitely good value for money

He didn't turn up for votes, he didn't turn up for committee meetings (those poor fishermen he used for his own benefit during the campaign - it was his job to sit on a committee and fight for them!).

Just because he had an agenda to take the UK out of the EU, doesn't mean he should have ignored his duties as a paid MEP. He failed the people he was paid to represent - which is unforgivable.

How people have been taken in by him, I'll never know.

[rscott]

Greg_D said:

Trabi601 said:

BMRuss said:

Wow, any need to be quite so aggressive?

Of course you're entitled to your opinions, as are everyone else, but for me Farage has been nothing short of brilliant dealing with the EU over the past 17 years and he's achieved more in that time than anyone else that I can think of.

If anyone has experience dealing with these EU bods it's him and he should be heavily involved now, when Farage speaks, people listen.

He rarely turned up to do a day's work. He's a disgrace and no better than the people he claimed to be campaigning against.

Even now, he's refusing to give up his seat - mostly because he's on a nice little earner with a nice pension to come when he does.

Hypocrite of the highest order.

not really, he's made absolutely no bones about his intention of destroying it from within.
He is proud to be a cuckoo in the nest, why would he go to meetings and other nonsense to waffle on about subsidies for Estonian hippo farmers when he can continue to undermine them???

and yes, why not sit it out and take his due, i would?

Serious question, can you name one other politician who has dedicated their entire career to a single aim that has actually been instrumental in pulling it off? I can't!!!

That said, i do recognise his limitations, his mouth does run away with him sometimes. You need a very different type of person to doggedly pursue a single agenda for so long, those personality traits do not necessarily gel with the consensus building that will be necessary during the negotiations. To that end, he is probably best out of the picture during that process.

Nelson Mandela?

[Sam All]

rscott said:

Greg_D said:

Trabi601 said:

BMRuss said:

Wow, any need to be quite so aggressive?

Of course you're entitled to your opinions, as are everyone else, but for me Farage has been nothing short of brilliant dealing with the EU over the past 17 years and he's achieved more in that time than anyone else that I can think of.

If anyone has experience dealing with these EU bods it's him and he should be heavily involved now, when Farage speaks, people listen.

He rarely turned up to do a day's work. He's a disgrace and no better than the people he claimed to be campaigning against.

Even now, he's refusing to give up his seat - mostly because he's on a nice little earner with a nice pension to come when he does.

Hypocrite of the highest order.

not really, he's made absolutely no bones about his intention of destroying it from within.
He is proud to be a cuckoo in the nest, why would he go to meetings and other nonsense to waffle on about subsidies for Estonian hippo farmers when he can continue to undermine them???

and yes, why not sit it out and take his due, i would?

Serious question, can you name one other politician who has dedicated their entire career to a single aim that has actually been instrumental in pulling it off? I can't!!!

That said, i do recognise his limitations, his mouth does run away with him sometimes. You need a very different type of person to doggedly pursue a single agenda for so long, those personality traits do not necessarily gel with the consensus building that will be necessary during the negotiations. To that end, he is probably best out of the picture during that process.

Nelson Mandela?

Awesome company - let's start to build a statue.

[BMRuss]

Trabi601 said:

He didn't turn up for votes, he didn't turn up for committee meetings (those poor fishermen he used for his own benefit during the campaign - it was his job to sit on a committee and fight for them!).

Just because he had an agenda to take the UK out of the EU, doesn't mean he should have ignored his duties as a paid MEP. He failed the people he was paid to represent - which is unforgivable.

How people have been taken in by him, I'll never know.

What authority does he actually have with the fisheries policy then? Nothing he says would be of any benefit whatsoever!

How people cannot see what this guy wanted to achieve from the outset is beyond me, as I said, he's more than earned his money for me.

[Trabi601]

BMRuss said:

What authority does he actually have with the fisheries policy then? Nothing he says would be of any benefit whatsoever!

How people cannot see what this guy wanted to achieve from the outset is beyond me, as I said, he's more than earned his money for me.

You can't influence if you're not there. If you're not there, you're 'troughing' as people say around these parts.

If a TV chef can make a difference, why can't a paid MEP?

Edited by Trabi601 on Friday 8th July 16:50

[Greg_D]

Sam All said:

rscott said:

Greg_D said:

Trabi601 said:

BMRuss said:

Wow, any need to be quite so aggressive?

Of course you're entitled to your opinions, as are everyone else, but for me Farage has been nothing short of brilliant dealing with the EU over the past 17 years and he's achieved more in that time than anyone else that I can think of.

If anyone has experience dealing with these EU bods it's him and he should be heavily involved now, when Farage speaks, people listen.

He rarely turned up to do a day's work. He's a disgrace and no better than the people he claimed to be campaigning against.

Even now, he's refusing to give up his seat - mostly because he's on a nice little earner with a nice pension to come when he does.

Hypocrite of the highest order.

not really, he's made absolutely no bones about his intention of destroying it from within.
He is proud to be a cuckoo in the nest, why would he go to meetings and other nonsense to waffle on about subsidies for Estonian hippo farmers when he can continue to undermine them???

and yes, why not sit it out and take his due, i would?

Serious question, can you name one other politician who has dedicated their entire career to a single aim that has actually been instrumental in pulling it off? I can't!!!

That said, i do recognise his limitations, his mouth does run away with him sometimes. You need a very different type of person to doggedly pursue a single agenda for so long, those personality traits do not necessarily gel with the consensus building that will be necessary during the negotiations. To that end, he is probably best out of the picture during that process.

Nelson Mandela?

Awesome company - let's start to build a statue.

indeed, i'll give you that one...

[wc98]

Trabi601 said:

If a TV chef can make a difference, why can't a paid MEP?

that only highlights just how little you know about the fisheries situation. will hfw want to be associated with hundreds of thousands of tonnes of fish going to landfill ? i doubt it. i think even hugh realises now just what a complete and utter joke the common fisheries policy and those running it are.