Jeremy Corbyn (Vol. 4)
Discussion
williamp said:
But whats he done wrong?? For ages until last December Ikea was a key part of corbyn cabinet and a keen aide, he said nothing. And now Comrade Corbyn might lose the whip??
Why didnt Ikea say anything before...?
Because he's a competent politician and playing politics has got him to the big job. Why didnt Ikea say anything before...?
Sadly this previous silence/obedience/obsequiousness marks him out as a bit of a cynical s
thouse in my view, but hey, it worked for him.SpeckledJim said:
williamp said:
But whats he done wrong?? For ages until last December Ikea was a key part of corbyn cabinet and a keen aide, he said nothing. And now Comrade Corbyn might lose the whip??
Why didnt Ikea say anything before...?
Because he's a competent politician and playing politics has got him to the big job. Why didnt Ikea say anything before...?
Sadly this previous silence/obedience/obsequiousness marks him out as a bit of a cynical s
thouse in my view, but hey, it worked for him.Then the ends justify the means
Without supporting Cobyn when he was leader, waiting for him to stand down and then standing as his replacement, how else coule he have avoided RLB being the natural successor and maintaining the turgid state of the party & its unelectability
jakesmith said:
Say Kier is the best thing for Labour right now, which I believe is so
Then the ends justify the means
Without supporting Cobyn when he was leader, waiting for him to stand down and then standing as his replacement, how else coule he have avoided RLB being the natural successor and maintaining the turgid state of the party & its unelectability
The question is, how much of what Corbyn and McDonnell put forward did Starmer agree with?Then the ends justify the means
Without supporting Cobyn when he was leader, waiting for him to stand down and then standing as his replacement, how else coule he have avoided RLB being the natural successor and maintaining the turgid state of the party & its unelectability
The signs so far are positive for those wanting decent opposition IMO - binning off RLB, the NEC move etc. But there is a very long way to go :
- what about the other morons he has in his shadow cabinet?
- and what are his economic policies going to be
Those two points will tell us whether he's serious or not.
Murph7355 said:
The question is, how much of what Corbyn and McDonnell put forward did Starmer agree with?
The signs so far are positive for those wanting decent opposition IMO - binning off RLB, the NEC move etc. But there is a very long way to go :
- what about the other morons he has in his shadow cabinet?
- and what are his economic policies going to be
Those two points will tell us whether he's serious or not.
I'd imagine Keir agreed with very little but was a bit more strategic than Owen SMith etc and played the long game. Maybe even hastened the process with the Brexit policy. I'd have more respect for him if he had to be honest. The signs so far are positive for those wanting decent opposition IMO - binning off RLB, the NEC move etc. But there is a very long way to go :
- what about the other morons he has in his shadow cabinet?
- and what are his economic policies going to be
Those two points will tell us whether he's serious or not.
BigMon said:
What an absolute tt of the first degree Corbyn is, as he has been throughout his political career.
I would piss myself if he stood up for his scruples and got bankrupted as a result.
He is very unlikely to appologise and withdraw his statement what with being a 'man of principle' which actually means a narrow minded inflexible foolt of the first degree Corbyn is, as he has been throughout his political career.I would piss myself if he stood up for his scruples and got bankrupted as a result.
jakesmith said:
BigMon said:
What an absolute tt of the first degree Corbyn is, as he has been throughout his political career.
I would piss myself if he stood up for his scruples and got bankrupted as a result.
He is very unlikely to apologise and withdraw his statement what with being a 'man of principle' which actually means a narrow minded inflexible foolt of the first degree Corbyn is, as he has been throughout his political career.I would piss myself if he stood up for his scruples and got bankrupted as a result.
williamp said:
But whats he done wrong?? For ages until last December Ikea was a key part of corbyn cabinet and a keen aide, he said nothing. And now Comrade Corbyn might lose the whip??
Why didnt Ikea say anything before...?
And this is the BIGGEST problem with Starmer IMO. He sat at Corbyn's table.Why didnt Ikea say anything before...?
If his principles were so different then he should have put as much distance between himself and Jezza as he could.
Wombat3 said:
williamp said:
But whats he done wrong?? For ages until last December Ikea was a key part of corbyn cabinet and a keen aide, he said nothing. And now Comrade Corbyn might lose the whip??
Why didnt Ikea say anything before...?
And this is the BIGGEST problem with Starmer IMO. He sat at Corbyn's table.Why didnt Ikea say anything before...?
If his principles were so different then he should have put as much distance between himself and Jezza as he could.
There are a lot of Labour MPs who emerge from the Corbyn era with a lot more credibility than Starmer, having not kow-towed to the deranged old lunatic in exchange for a position of influence and elevated name-recognition among the half-interested party members who voted him into the top job.
Has Lady Chakrabati not weighed in to defend Jeremy again? After all, she authored that report exonerating the party from any hint of anti Semitism and was rewarded with a peerage.
Don’t tell me that was ‘fake’. Sharmi was always a straightforward individual (as evidenced by her frequent appearances on the beeb).
My enduring faith in the quality of our political class continues to be undermined. What a shower!
Don’t tell me that was ‘fake’. Sharmi was always a straightforward individual (as evidenced by her frequent appearances on the beeb).
My enduring faith in the quality of our political class continues to be undermined. What a shower!
jsf said:
Dont Panic said:
Didnt they have that pretty, brainy bird from countdown doing all their sums?
Whats her name now..... Oh yeah Abacus Abbot.
The real pretty, brainy bird from countdown absolutely went for Corbyn's throat, she hated him with a passion.Whats her name now..... Oh yeah Abacus Abbot.
If only she hadnt married that smart , attractive clever guy....she could have had me.
ORD said:
Not such a big deal unless the speaker lies about the content, which I think is likely here.
Collateral waiver has bitten a few. If the contents or the communication aren't confidential it isn't LPP; If he does get sued it's going to be very hard to rely on legal privilege. You can mention you have received legal advice you can even say following legal advice we will ... But saying "Our legal advice said XXX" put's it out there.
When I read the linked Guardian article my first thought was that Starmer had settled the libel action to prevent any dirty laundry being aired in court, a smart move to distance the current leadership from the anti-semitism of Corbyn & co.
According to several news sites Corbyn is now being sued by John Ware the Panorama reporter and some of the whistleblowers so there's a chance all the dirty laundry will see the light of day anyway.
According to several news sites Corbyn is now being sued by John Ware the Panorama reporter and some of the whistleblowers so there's a chance all the dirty laundry will see the light of day anyway.
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