45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. Vol 3
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Colonial said:
Not-The-Messiah said:
Pocahontas was a historical hero sambo or subu are or can be derogatory terms. It's more like going "Martin Luther king here" not "sambo here".
Do you refer to every Chinese woman you see as Mulan?Not-The-Messiah said:
Colonial said:
Not-The-Messiah said:
Pocahontas was a historical hero sambo or subu are or can be derogatory terms. It's more like going "Martin Luther king here" not "sambo here".
Do you refer to every Chinese woman you see as Mulan?Edited by Not-The-Messiah on Friday 3rd November 23:13
Colonial said:
Not-The-Messiah said:
No why would I? But if some SJW claiming to be Chinese said stuff I may go "look it's tiananmen square tank man".
Extraordinary.Edited by Not-The-Messiah on Friday 3rd November 23:36
Colonial said:
Not-The-Messiah said:
Your world must full of extraordinary events mine is quite normal.
I don't usually associate with dumb as a plank racists so this is outside of my norm. Edited by Not-The-Messiah on Saturday 4th November 00:26
Calling someone who asserts Native American identity Pocanhontas is insulting. It is a diminutive, invoking a stereotype. If Trump had said "Cigar Store Indian" or "Big Chief Pow Wow" or "Squaw" or "Mini Ha Ha" then the effect would have been much the same. Calling a black politician "Rastus", or "Chicken George" or "Kunta Kinte" etc would be similar. Try also "Fu Manchu", "Susie Wong", "Hong Kong Phooey" etc for Chinese people, and so on. These are not the worst insults imaginable. It's not as bad as saying or slope or gook or etc, and for historical reasons those barbs are worse than Paddy, Ivan, Fritz, Mick, Russky, Kraut and so on, but it's still pretty bad, although standard for Trump.
Re the Daily Mail - it is not currently and openly pro Nazi, but I suggest that it is a mistake to think that the paper has changed much. It has been much the same since it was first published, when it made extreme attacks on Jewish refugees fleeing oppression in Russia, which are almost interchangeable with the attacks it now makes on brown and black skinned refugees from the middle east and Africa. It publishes a relentless tide of scare stories, designed to make its readers feel angry and frightened, and thus to encourage them to support hard line political positions. It normalises hate and fear based opinions, and its readers feel empowered to be openly Xenophobic or racist, as a read of the comments on DM articles shows.
unrepentant said:
It’s quite probable that Warren is part Native American, many Americans are.
My wife is part Lenape Indian and had no idea until quite recently. She always described herself as Irish. (At which I would point out that she’s not Irish, she’s American).
It is amazing how many americans claim they are irish, hence the historical funding for the IraMy wife is part Lenape Indian and had no idea until quite recently. She always described herself as Irish. (At which I would point out that she’s not Irish, she’s American).
AreOut said:
she is the one playing the race card claiming to be something she isn't, btw Pocahontas doesn't sound insulting to me
You and I know that if we used the same term in or workplace we'd be in front of HR in no time.Cherokee Nation citizen Mary Kathryn Nagle said last year: "Trump’s inability to discern the difference between Senator Warren and Pocahontas is no accident. Instead, his attack on her native identity reflects a dominant American culture that has made every effort to diminish native women to nothing other than a fantastical, oversexualized, Disney character."
But then for Columbus day, he said "the permanent arrival of Europeans ... was a transformative event that undeniably and fundamentally changed the course of human history and set the stage for the development of our great Nation."
Obama last year whilst acknowledging Columbus's exploration also said "we should also acknowledge the pain and suffering reflected in the stories of Native Americans who had long resided on this land prior to the arrival of European newcomers."
Still, the Donald promoted his Columbus Day sale to allow customers supportive of the navigator's voyage to purchase the “Make America Great Again” merchandise of their choice for a discounted price.
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