45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. Vol 3

45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. Vol 3

TOPIC CLOSED
TOPIC CLOSED
Author
Discussion

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 3rd November 2017
quotequote all
Colonial said:
AreOut said:
she is the one playing the race card claiming to be something she isn't, btw Pocahontas doesn't sound insulting to me
Extraordinary.
It shows he knows how to play to his audience.


Seventy

5,500 posts

139 months

Friday 3rd November 2017
quotequote all
Not-The-Messiah said:
Trump is racist as much as someone putting a hand on someone's knee is a rapist.
Aaaaand we are off. Again.
Rinse and repeat.
Is there a button you can press on PH?

Colonial

13,553 posts

206 months

Friday 3rd November 2017
quotequote all
desolate said:
It shows he knows how to play to his audience.
Absolutely. He knows his base and caters directly to them.

Not-The-Messiah

3,621 posts

82 months

Friday 3rd November 2017
quotequote all
Breadvan72 said:
If someone brought being black or Indian into the political arena would that make it OK to call that person Sambo or Sabu?
Pocahontas was a historical hero sambo or subu are or can be derogatory terms. It's more like going "Martin Luther king here" not "sambo here".

Colonial

13,553 posts

206 months

Friday 3rd November 2017
quotequote all
Not-The-Messiah said:
Pocahontas was a historical hero sambo or subu are or can be derogatory terms. It's more like going "Martin Luther king here" not "sambo here".
Do you refer to every Chinese woman you see as Mulan?

Not-The-Messiah

3,621 posts

82 months

Friday 3rd November 2017
quotequote all
Colonial said:
Not-The-Messiah said:
Pocahontas was a historical hero sambo or subu are or can be derogatory terms. It's more like going "Martin Luther king here" not "sambo here".
Do you refer to every Chinese woman you see as Mulan?
No why would I? But if some SJW claiming to be Chinese said stuff I may go "look it's tiananmen square tank man".

Not-The-Messiah

3,621 posts

82 months

Friday 3rd November 2017
quotequote all
Not-The-Messiah said:
Colonial said:
Not-The-Messiah said:
Pocahontas was a historical hero sambo or subu are or can be derogatory terms. It's more like going "Martin Luther king here" not "sambo here".
Do you refer to every Chinese woman you see as Mulan?
No why would I? But if some SJW claiming to be Chinese said stuff I may go "look it's tiananmen square tank man".
No thinking about that, that guy was actually fight against communism and authoritarianism so he was on my side so wouldn't disrespect him by equating him with some SJW tit.

Edited by Not-The-Messiah on Friday 3rd November 23:13

Colonial

13,553 posts

206 months

Friday 3rd November 2017
quotequote all
Not-The-Messiah said:
No why would I? But if some SJW claiming to be Chinese said stuff I may go "look it's tiananmen square tank man".
Extraordinary.

Not-The-Messiah

3,621 posts

82 months

Friday 3rd November 2017
quotequote all
Colonial said:
Not-The-Messiah said:
No why would I? But if some SJW claiming to be Chinese said stuff I may go "look it's tiananmen square tank man".
Extraordinary.
Your world must be full of extraordinary events my world is quite normal and boarding.

Edited by Not-The-Messiah on Friday 3rd November 23:36

Colonial

13,553 posts

206 months

Friday 3rd November 2017
quotequote all
Not-The-Messiah said:
Your world must full of extraordinary events mine is quite normal.
I don't usually associate with dumb as a plank racists so this is outside of my norm.

problemchild1976

1,376 posts

150 months

Friday 3rd November 2017
quotequote all
he's a muppet but he mixes running a country while trying to run the school yard so well wink

one comedian, referring to his "wife", said "immigrants are needed to take the jobs nationals don't want - loved that haha

JJ

Not-The-Messiah

3,621 posts

82 months

Saturday 4th November 2017
quotequote all
Colonial said:
Not-The-Messiah said:
Your world must full of extraordinary events mine is quite normal.
I don't usually associate with dumb as a plank racists so this is outside of my norm.
It's because you are such a tolerant person open to other opinions, it must be.

Edited by Not-The-Messiah on Saturday 4th November 00:26

AreOut

3,658 posts

162 months

Saturday 4th November 2017
quotequote all
Eric Mc said:
It doesn't sound insulting to me either - but I bet Trump meant it as an insult.
it's like calling a bad driver who claims he drives good a "racer", a bit childish coming from POTUS but it's not an insult per se

btw it's questionable if even he knew what he meant smile

Colonial

13,553 posts

206 months

Saturday 4th November 2017
quotequote all
Not-The-Messiah said:
It's because you are such a tolerant person open to other opinions, it must be.

Edited by Not-The-Messiah on Saturday 4th November 00:26
I'm not tolerant of intolerance.

Not-The-Messiah

3,621 posts

82 months

Saturday 4th November 2017
quotequote all
Colonial said:
Not-The-Messiah said:
It's because you are such a tolerant person open to other opinions, it must be.

Edited by Not-The-Messiah on Saturday 4th November 00:26
I'm not tolerant of intolerance.
Very good we must be on the same side when it comes to Islam then?

Colonial

13,553 posts

206 months

Saturday 4th November 2017
quotequote all
Not-The-Messiah said:
Very good we must be on the same side when it comes to Islam then?
What? Live and let live apart from the small percentage that wish us harm? Yeah. You'd have to be a dumb as a post racist to have any other view.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 4th November 2017
quotequote all
Calling someone who asserts Native American identity Pocanhontas is insulting. It is a diminutive, invoking a stereotype. If Trump had said "Cigar Store Indian" or "Big Chief Pow Wow" or "Squaw" or "Mini Ha Ha" then the effect would have been much the same. Calling a black politician "Rastus", or "Chicken George" or "Kunta Kinte" etc would be similar. Try also "Fu Manchu", "Susie Wong", "Hong Kong Phooey" etc for Chinese people, and so on. These are not the worst insults imaginable. It's not as bad as saying or slope or gook or etc, and for historical reasons those barbs are worse than Paddy, Ivan, Fritz, Mick, Russky, Kraut and so on, but it's still pretty bad, although standard for Trump.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 4th November 2017
quotequote all
Re the Daily Mail - it is not currently and openly pro Nazi, but I suggest that it is a mistake to think that the paper has changed much. It has been much the same since it was first published, when it made extreme attacks on Jewish refugees fleeing oppression in Russia, which are almost interchangeable with the attacks it now makes on brown and black skinned refugees from the middle east and Africa. It publishes a relentless tide of scare stories, designed to make its readers feel angry and frightened, and thus to encourage them to support hard line political positions. It normalises hate and fear based opinions, and its readers feel empowered to be openly Xenophobic or racist, as a read of the comments on DM articles shows.

Byker28i

60,813 posts

218 months

Saturday 4th November 2017
quotequote all
unrepentant said:
It’s quite probable that Warren is part Native American, many Americans are.

My wife is part Lenape Indian and had no idea until quite recently. She always described herself as Irish. (At which I would point out that she’s not Irish, she’s American).
It is amazing how many americans claim they are irish, hence the historical funding for the Ira

Byker28i

60,813 posts

218 months

Saturday 4th November 2017
quotequote all
AreOut said:
she is the one playing the race card claiming to be something she isn't, btw Pocahontas doesn't sound insulting to me
You and I know that if we used the same term in or workplace we'd be in front of HR in no time.

Cherokee Nation citizen Mary Kathryn Nagle said last year: "Trump’s inability to discern the difference between Senator Warren and Pocahontas is no accident. Instead, his attack on her native identity reflects a dominant American culture that has made every effort to diminish native women to nothing other than a fantastical, oversexualized, Disney character."

But then for Columbus day, he said "the permanent arrival of Europeans ... was a transformative event that undeniably and fundamentally changed the course of human history and set the stage for the development of our great Nation."
Obama last year whilst acknowledging Columbus's exploration also said "we should also acknowledge the pain and suffering reflected in the stories of Native Americans who had long resided on this land prior to the arrival of European newcomers."

Still, the Donald promoted his Columbus Day sale to allow customers supportive of the navigator's voyage to purchase the “Make America Great Again” merchandise of their choice for a discounted price.
TOPIC CLOSED
TOPIC CLOSED