Girl sends rejection letter to Oxford

[turbobloke]

Tuna said:

turbobloke said:

Those of us suggesting that there may be grounds for regret over a decision to put a spoof yet real rejection, such as here, on the internet for posterity appear to have a point according to the results of the 2012 annual technology market survey conducted by Eurocom Worldwide, the Global PR Network, in association with UK PR agency partner Six Degrees.

One in five bosses reject applicants because of their profiles on social networking sites

Good, that's one out of five bosses who self identify as idiots. I wouldn't want to work for anyone who thinks (in the absence of any evidence) that I cannot separate my business life and personal life, or who thinks my personal life is any of their business.

No worries. You'd never know and ignorance is said to be bliss

[Diamond blue]

Tuna said:

turbobloke said:

Those of us suggesting that there may be grounds for regret over a decision to put a spoof yet real rejection, such as here, on the internet for posterity appear to have a point according to the results of the 2012 annual technology market survey conducted by Eurocom Worldwide, the Global PR Network, in association with UK PR agency partner Six Degrees.

One in five bosses reject applicants because of their profiles on social networking sites

Good, that's one out of five bosses who self identify as idiots. I wouldn't want to work for anyone who thinks (in the absence of any evidence) that I cannot separate my business life and personal life, or who thinks my personal life is any of their business.

I'd be more circumspect about raising my head above the turret by actively courting 'fame', but a profile on bookface has absolutely no relevance or connection to my business dealings and I'd be highly suspicious of any boss who went out of their way to make the connection.

That may be entirely true of you but a prospective employer has only limited ways of finding out about the candidate and social network sites are as good a source as any.
It stands to reason that you should be careful about what is easily researchable in your profiles if you're in the job market.

[Tuna]

turbobloke said:

No worries. You'd never know and ignorance is said to be bliss

The simple rule is I do try to keep online social and business presences separate, and don't say anything online I wouldn't be prepared to say in person (perhaps with a little more tact). I change clients every few months and work in the most IT literate business for some very high profile people. So far I've not been aware of any clients caring about facebook or other sites.

I'd find it equally depressing if a prospective employer called round my local to ask about my drinking habits, or required me to complete a psychological profile.

[Diamond blue]

Tuna said:

turbobloke said:

No worries. You'd never know and ignorance is said to be bliss

The simple rule is I do try to keep online social and business presences separate, and don't say anything online I wouldn't be prepared to say in person (perhaps with a little more tact). I change clients every few months and work in the most IT literate business for some very high profile people. So far I've not been aware of any clients caring about facebook or other sites.

I'd find it equally depressing if a prospective employer called round my local to ask about my drinking habits, or required me to complete a psychological profile.

Put yourself in the position of the employer. Given the existence of facebook and other social networking sites, it is a sensible step to do what you can to find out as much as you can about your prospective employee. Why on earth would anyone be surprised by that.
If you dont want people knowing your business there's plenty of ways of preventing non authorised access. But remember that whilst you may be larking about , it may look less than appealing to a potential boss.

[turbobloke]

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[harry010]

Countdown said:

rhinochopig said:

I always thought Durham was an RG Uni. I'm amazed it wasn't.

Me too. When I was in 6th Form Durham was seen as a respectable 3rd place for those that didn't make Oxbridge.

I applied to Durham and was rejected without even being offered an interview. It upset me for all of about three weeks until I was offered a place at Magdalen College, Oxford.

I have always wondered if my application to Oxford informed my rejection from Durham.

[EliseNick]

harry010 said:

I have always wondered if my application to Oxford informed my rejection from Durham.

That definitely used to happen - they didn't like being second choice - up to about the mid-nineties, when the penny dropped that they were excluding an awful lot of very good candidates.

[Wadeski]

I thought the whole point of Durham was it was full of Oxbridge rejects?

[mph1977]

EliseNick said:

harry010 said:

I have always wondered if my application to Oxford informed my rejection from Durham.

That definitely used to happen - they didn't like being second choice - up to about the mid-nineties, when the penny dropped that they were excluding an awful lot of very good candidates.

or when UCCA became UCAS and stopped showing the other institutions someone had applied for , so even if the application was with UCAS before the Oxbridge / medicine cut off date institutions didn't know for sure if the applicant had applied to one or other of OXford or Cambridge ... Also a load of schools used to have the Oxbridge applicants forms done so early that they sent of the next coulpe of dozen as well at that first cut off based on who had made their choices and got their PS done

[172ff]

Wadeski said:

I thought the whole point of Durham was it was full of Oxbridge rejects?

No, that's Bristol....

[martin84]

Holy thread resurrection batman!

[EliseNick]

mph1977 said:

or when UCCA became UCAS...

Ah, I didn't know that - interesting.

[Tribal Chestnut]

harry010 said:

I applied to Durham and was rejected without even being offered an interview. It upset me for all of about three weeks until I was offered a place at Magdalen College, Oxford.I have always wondered if myapplication to Oxford informed my rejection from Durham.

So you're certainly no spring chicken then, according to the following post, which surprises me.

Post resurrection, I read the first few pages of this and was surprised at the sheer quantity of sycophantic nonsense being spouted after one of the PH big-men had shot his load. What a bunch of posterior noshing fags.

[harry010]

Tribal Chestnut said:

So you're certainly no spring chicken then, according to the following post, which surprises me.

I am younger than uni in the mid 90s, and as I said I always wondered, I didn't know if that was the case.

I never paid any attention to how the whole UCAS thing worked and always assumed they'd be able to see where you had applied - I was clearly mistaken.

[John Bunnell]

I couldn't be bothered reading the whole thread, but honestly, those suggesting she's arrogant or has ruined her career just seem insecure or jealous.

I'm studying law, and I can't tell you how refreshing it is to have someone actually questioning the overly traditional and formal institutions. The legal profession is one that has always been elitist and tried to exclude those who aren't familiar with, or educated in it's strange policies and procedures.

This is the sort of person I would want to hire, just for the fact that she has questioned the presumably archaic traditions and excesses that go hand in hand with this sort of university and degree. It shows a propensity to question situations and facts that will serve her well down the track in her career as a lawyer.

[turbobloke]

John Bunnell said:

I couldn't be bothered reading the whole thread, but honestly, those suggesting she's arrogant or has ruined her career just seem insecure or jealous.

I'm studying law, and I can't tell you how refreshing it is to have someone actually questioning the overly traditional and formal institutions. The legal profession is one that has always been elitist and tried to exclude those who aren't familiar with, or educated in it's strange policies and procedures.

This is the sort of person I would want to hire, just for the fact that she has questioned the presumably archaic traditions and excesses that go hand in hand with this sort of university and degree. It shows a propensity to question situations and facts that will serve her well down the track in her career as a lawyer.

Presumably you'll read your briefs more thoroughly but fair enough ploughing threads that re-appear is time consuming.

Personally I'd be more inclined to agree with your diagnosis if she did what she did after gaining a place at Oxford. She failed at Cambridge the year before, then failed again at Oxford, this suggests her response is more to do with truculence when in need of a figleaf. I also disagree with the contextual cues you offer about the term elitism, which in terms of pursuit and achievement of excellence, is a good thing compared to the pursuit of mediocrity.

As for odd practices, archaic traditions and strangeness, you're studying to be a lawyer are you not?!

[Trommel]

John Bunnell said:

It shows a propensity to question situations and facts that will serve her well down the track in her career as a lawyer

Have you been watching Legally Blonde?

[marcosgt]

I don't really get all the antagonism towards this girl.

I know a number of people who were offered places at Oxford and decided not to take them up.

I don't think many (any?) sent 'rejection letters', but the Oxbridge environment doesn't appeal to everyone who is academically up to it.

If she really felt the attitude was arrogant, why shouldn't she say so?

M.

[turbobloke]

marcosgt said:

If she really felt the attitude was arrogant...

Did she? After going through the arrogant process once at Cambridge one year earlier, she volunteered to undergo an equally arrogant process for a second time. That doesn't sound like a strong antipathy at work.

If it had been clear to her that she had blown the doors off the interview room and had been successful, was in due course offered a place and accepted it, would she have behaved in the same way?

There's no antagonism that I can see, just commentary and different viewpoints.

[10 Pence Short]

Oxford is arguably the most revered name in education. Considering it's they who have the choice of who attends and who doesn't, I don't see a problem with a little arrogance, to be honest.