"I've just broken the Geneva convention"
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raftom said:
Driller said:
How can they call it a "murder" FFS? f
king hypocrisy.
They probably checked Britannica.king hypocrisy.Encyclopaedia Britannica said:
murder, in criminal law, the unjustified killing of one person by another, usually distinguished from the crime of manslaughter by the element of malice aforethought. See homicide.
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/398019/m...
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/398019/m...
Presumably you think it's appropriate to apply the same "rules" in the civilian world as in a war, correct me if I'm wrong.
That there is a right and a wrong way to kill your fellow human beings, that you can kill them horribly should you follow the correct procedure but if you don't follow the procedure exactly then suddenly OMG! it's MURDER!
Driller said:
raftom said:
Driller said:
How can they call it a "murder" FFS? fking hypocrisy.
They probably checked Britannica.king hypocrisy.Encyclopaedia Britannica said:
murder, in criminal law, the unjustified killing of one person by another, usually distinguished from the crime of manslaughter by the element of malice aforethought. See homicide.
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/398019/m...
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/398019/m...
Presumably you think it's appropriate to apply the same "rules" in the civilian world as in a war, correct me if I'm wrong.
That there is a right and a wrong way to kill your fellow human beings, that you can kill them horribly should you follow the correct procedure but if you don't follow the procedure exactly then suddenly OMG! it's MURDER!
A line has to be drawn somewhere between the lawful conduct of a war and cold blooded murder, plenty of other cases that show murder isn't acceptable even in a time of conflict/war.
The rules of engagement over there don't help either IIRC they can only fire if they are being attacked or are in imminent danger.
Edited by Wills2 on Saturday 7th December 12:17
This poor fella gets a longer sentence than some scrote that has just knifed an innocent at a kebab shop.
A lot of lesbian leftie tree huggers on here which is surprising for PH. I clicked on the link thinking that there would be a general outrage that this soldier has been punished.
The Tallyknackers already laugh at our Western weaknesses and rules and now they have this story to show how stupid we are, and how being so civilised, we are never going to get the upper hand.
The only wrong thing this soldier and his mates did was being daft enough to video the act and keep it.
Personally I would have been happy to make the 'insurgent' die slow whilst stuffing pork sausages up every one of his orifices. Meeting your maker smelling of the dirty pig does not get you your virgins, apparently.
I don't agree with our lot being over there and we should leave and let the feckers deal with their own country. It's war and war is hell.
Let our boys off the fekin' leash and then the enemy will know fear.
Reminds me of the story about the snipers on the roof of a garrison that was being mortared. They couldn't see the attackers but the spotter was in sight with a big old walkie talkie calling the shots in with deadly accuracy.
The snipers could have had him but as he was unarmed they were not allowed to shoot. Feking ludicrous!
They had to keep calling higher up the command chain to get permission which was finally granted the next day after many were hurt in the attack.
A lot of lesbian leftie tree huggers on here which is surprising for PH. I clicked on the link thinking that there would be a general outrage that this soldier has been punished.
The Tallyknackers already laugh at our Western weaknesses and rules and now they have this story to show how stupid we are, and how being so civilised, we are never going to get the upper hand.
The only wrong thing this soldier and his mates did was being daft enough to video the act and keep it.
Personally I would have been happy to make the 'insurgent' die slow whilst stuffing pork sausages up every one of his orifices. Meeting your maker smelling of the dirty pig does not get you your virgins, apparently.
I don't agree with our lot being over there and we should leave and let the feckers deal with their own country. It's war and war is hell.
Let our boys off the fekin' leash and then the enemy will know fear.
Reminds me of the story about the snipers on the roof of a garrison that was being mortared. They couldn't see the attackers but the spotter was in sight with a big old walkie talkie calling the shots in with deadly accuracy.
The snipers could have had him but as he was unarmed they were not allowed to shoot. Feking ludicrous!
They had to keep calling higher up the command chain to get permission which was finally granted the next day after many were hurt in the attack.
^ ^ Well said.
Just to be clear, I'm totally against all these so called wars and their cooked up justifications.
I understand that they have drawn up "rules" for war, which in itself is just sad and farcical but I just don't see how you can expect to put a human being through all the stress and horror of a battle and then hold it against him if he pops one of the peiople who have been trying to blow him to pieces for the last few hours or whatever. It's neither fair nor reasonable and the people who make these "rules" are presumably sitting in cozy back offices.
I'd be pretty pissed off at someone if they had been shooting bullets, mortars etc at me and I'd probably have a hard time not doing the same.
This one got caught on camera, presumably the same thing goes on on both sides on a regular basis which is what you'd expect in a bloody war surely?
It seems to be a way to send people in to do your stty work for you and come out smelling of roses.
Just to be clear, I'm totally against all these so called wars and their cooked up justifications.
I understand that they have drawn up "rules" for war, which in itself is just sad and farcical but I just don't see how you can expect to put a human being through all the stress and horror of a battle and then hold it against him if he pops one of the peiople who have been trying to blow him to pieces for the last few hours or whatever. It's neither fair nor reasonable and the people who make these "rules" are presumably sitting in cozy back offices.
I'd be pretty pissed off at someone if they had been shooting bullets, mortars etc at me and I'd probably have a hard time not doing the same.
This one got caught on camera, presumably the same thing goes on on both sides on a regular basis which is what you'd expect in a bloody war surely?
It seems to be a way to send people in to do your s
tty work for you and come out smelling of roses.Edited by Driller on Saturday 7th December 12:23
Just two things.
1. The judge said "The Afgan insurgent should have been treated with dignity, respect and humanity"......... Maybe next time when the boys catch a couple of Afgans who have murdered our soldiers should offer them a cuppa.
2. The Americans break into Bin Ladens house, and kill him. (Well done boys), and no doubt got a bloody good pat on the back, a marine kills an insurgent and gets jailed. (Quoting from today's paper who was quoting from twitter)
Just saying.
1. The judge said "The Afgan insurgent should have been treated with dignity, respect and humanity"......... Maybe next time when the boys catch a couple of Afgans who have murdered our soldiers should offer them a cuppa.
2. The Americans break into Bin Ladens house, and kill him. (Well done boys), and no doubt got a bloody good pat on the back, a marine kills an insurgent and gets jailed. (Quoting from today's paper who was quoting from twitter)
Just saying.
Edited by Vipers on Saturday 7th December 22:43
croyde said:
Personally I would have been happy to make the 'insurgent' die slow whilst stuffing pork sausages up every one of his orifices. Meeting your maker smelling of the dirty pig does not get you your virgins, apparently.
Did you have a good fap while typing that with the other hand? Disturbing.Vipers said:
2. The Americans break into Bin Ladens house, and kill him. (Well done boys), and no doubt got a bloody good pat on the back, a marine kills an insurgent and gets jailed. (Quoting from today's paper who was quoting from twitter)
Just saying.
Bloody good point. I think they call it assassination, and is against US law I believe.Just saying.
croyde said:
Personally I would have been happy to make the 'insurgent' die slow whilst stuffing pork sausages up every one of his orifices. Meeting your maker smelling of the dirty pig does not get you your virgins, apparently.
croyde said:
Rotary Madness said:
McWigglebum4th said:
digimeistter said:
I think you must be pissed and yanking my chain for your own amusement 
So you can't explain why killing one person who is no threat to you is wrong while killing another person who is no threat to you is rightNobody likes to see one of our own be thrown to the wolves but he fked up and got caught. As much as the office drones or outraged of Oakhampton may cry and stamp their feet, there are rules and they are to be obeyed!
Now this may not compute in the minds of civies but those rules and standards mean something in Her Majesties forces. In fact most of the general populace couldn't have given a stuff about anyone in the forces until they were told to do by the tabloids. As members of HM Forces you are held to a higher standard irrespective of who you face, fight or defend. Fail to meet those standards then be prepared to face the consequences.
Wolf1, 15 years, Royal Armoured Corps, Crew commander Challenger, Belfast, Balkans, Iraq etc
ked up and got caught. As much as the office drones or outraged of Oakhampton may cry and stamp their feet, there are rules and they are to be obeyed! Now this may not compute in the minds of civies but those rules and standards mean something in Her Majesties forces. In fact most of the general populace couldn't have given a stuff about anyone in the forces until they were told to do by the tabloids. As members of HM Forces you are held to a higher standard irrespective of who you face, fight or defend. Fail to meet those standards then be prepared to face the consequences.
Wolf1, 15 years, Royal Armoured Corps, Crew commander Challenger, Belfast, Balkans, Iraq etc
King Herald said:
Vipers said:
2. The Americans break into Bin Ladens house, and kill him. (Well done boys), and no doubt got a bloody good pat on the back, a marine kills an insurgent and gets jailed. (Quoting from today's paper who was quoting from twitter)
Just saying.
Bloody good point. I think they call it assassination, and is against US law I believe.Just saying.
croyde said:
This poor fella gets a longer sentence than some scrote that has just knifed an innocent at a kebab shop.
A lot of lesbian leftie tree huggers on here which is surprising for PH. I clicked on the link thinking that there would be a general outrage that this soldier has been punished.
The Tallyknackers already laugh at our Western weaknesses and rules and now they have this story to show how stupid we are, and how being so civilised, we are never going to get the upper hand.
The only wrong thing this soldier and his mates did was being daft enough to video the act and keep it.
Personally I would have been happy to make the 'insurgent' die slow whilst stuffing pork sausages up every one of his orifices. Meeting your maker smelling of the dirty pig does not get you your virgins, apparently.
I don't agree with our lot being over there and we should leave and let the feckers deal with their own country. It's war and war is hell.
Let our boys off the fekin' leash and then the enemy will know fear.
Reminds me of the story about the snipers on the roof of a garrison that was being mortared. They couldn't see the attackers but the spotter was in sight with a big old walkie talkie calling the shots in with deadly accuracy.
The snipers could have had him but as he was unarmed they were not allowed to shoot. Feking ludicrous!
They had to keep calling higher up the command chain to get permission which was finally granted the next day after many were hurt in the attack.
Maybe, instead of PH being for of "leftie lesbians", you're just a tiresome bigot?A lot of lesbian leftie tree huggers on here which is surprising for PH. I clicked on the link thinking that there would be a general outrage that this soldier has been punished.
The Tallyknackers already laugh at our Western weaknesses and rules and now they have this story to show how stupid we are, and how being so civilised, we are never going to get the upper hand.
The only wrong thing this soldier and his mates did was being daft enough to video the act and keep it.
Personally I would have been happy to make the 'insurgent' die slow whilst stuffing pork sausages up every one of his orifices. Meeting your maker smelling of the dirty pig does not get you your virgins, apparently.
I don't agree with our lot being over there and we should leave and let the feckers deal with their own country. It's war and war is hell.
Let our boys off the fekin' leash and then the enemy will know fear.
Reminds me of the story about the snipers on the roof of a garrison that was being mortared. They couldn't see the attackers but the spotter was in sight with a big old walkie talkie calling the shots in with deadly accuracy.
The snipers could have had him but as he was unarmed they were not allowed to shoot. Feking ludicrous!
They had to keep calling higher up the command chain to get permission which was finally granted the next day after many were hurt in the attack.
I genuinely have more sympathy and respect for the dead taliban soldier than I do for you. He at least could be standing for the vaguely comprehensible notion that invaders must die. What the f
k are you standing for? Opposing the murdering of those who posed no threat, by murdering those who pose no threat? The world is a depressing place when morons like you can pontificate about how someone who most likely has only known war since before puberty does not deserve the basic respect you have been afforded.
Victor McDade said:
Apparently OBL went to grab his gun so the Americans could legally then kill him there and then.
Maybe it's just me, but I can't see why the Americans wouldn't want him alive if possible. There are enough conspiracy theories over there, surely having a live person to point at would have been desirable?Edited by paranoid airbag on Sunday 8th December 00:53
paranoid airbag said:
Maybe it's just me, but I can't see why the Americans wouldn't want him alive if possible. There are enough conspiracy theories over there, surely having a live person to point at would have been desirable?
The maniacs would then indulge in hostage-taking to attempt to force release.Edited by paranoid airbag on Sunday 8th December 00:53
Symbolica said:
I take his point TBH. I think the Woolwich pair should be jailed for life - and I think exactly the same about the Marine that pulled the trigger.
Not that I ever have but I challenge you to be placed in the middle if a firefight with bullets flying all around you, deafening noise and total mayhem, earth being thrown up from ordnance explosions, shouting, screams of panic and pain, maybe seeing a few mates cuts to shreds by guys on the other side trying to do the same to you, the adrenalin pumping, the fear, your heart beating so hard it feels like it's going to burst out your chest and then suddenly the shooting stops and there he is lying in front of you the bloke who blew up your mates and was trying to do the same to you.It's far too easy to say what you said above.
Didn't see anyone mention this but this was the subject of a BBC moral maze this week:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03k21p1
As with all of the Moral Maze programs there is some argument each way along with a little nonsense, but I enjoy them.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03k21p1
As with all of the Moral Maze programs there is some argument each way along with a little nonsense, but I enjoy them.
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