Farage stands down as UKIP leader
Discussion
wc98 said:
Trabi601 said:
If a TV chef can make a difference, why can't a paid MEP?
that only highlights just how little you know about the fisheries situation. will hfw want to be associated with hundreds of thousands of tonnes of fish going to landfill ? i doubt it. i think even hugh realises now just what a complete and utter joke the common fisheries policy and those running it are.Greg_D said:
Trabi601 said:
BMRuss said:
Wow, any need to be quite so aggressive?
Of course you're entitled to your opinions, as are everyone else, but for me Farage has been nothing short of brilliant dealing with the EU over the past 17 years and he's achieved more in that time than anyone else that I can think of.
If anyone has experience dealing with these EU bods it's him and he should be heavily involved now, when Farage speaks, people listen.
He rarely turned up to do a day's work. He's a disgrace and no better than the people he claimed to be campaigning against.Of course you're entitled to your opinions, as are everyone else, but for me Farage has been nothing short of brilliant dealing with the EU over the past 17 years and he's achieved more in that time than anyone else that I can think of.
If anyone has experience dealing with these EU bods it's him and he should be heavily involved now, when Farage speaks, people listen.
Even now, he's refusing to give up his seat - mostly because he's on a nice little earner with a nice pension to come when he does.
Hypocrite of the highest order.
He is proud to be a cuckoo in the nest, why would he go to meetings and other nonsense to waffle on about subsidies for Estonian hippo farmers when he can continue to undermine them???
and yes, why not sit it out and take his due, i would?
Serious question, can you name one other politician who has dedicated their entire career to a single aim that has actually been instrumental in pulling it off? I can't!!!
That said, i do recognise his limitations, his mouth does run away with him sometimes. You need a very different type of person to doggedly pursue a single agenda for so long, those personality traits do not necessarily gel with the consensus building that will be necessary during the negotiations. To that end, he is probably best out of the picture during that process.
Trabi601 said:
wc98 said:
Trabi601 said:
If a TV chef can make a difference, why can't a paid MEP?
that only highlights just how little you know about the fisheries situation. will hfw want to be associated with hundreds of thousands of tonnes of fish going to landfill ? i doubt it. i think even hugh realises now just what a complete and utter joke the common fisheries policy and those running it are.Of all the intermixed issues at play here your real bone of contention is nigel farage's wages!!!
Unbelievable
Greg_D said:
So you are you genuinely getting bent out of shape on account of one person's undeserved salary?
Of all the intermixed issues at play here your real bone of contention is nigel farage's wages!!!
Unbelievable
No, it's the fact that the country was taken in by a charlatan whose entire reason for being was to promote his own hate-filled brand of politics.Of all the intermixed issues at play here your real bone of contention is nigel farage's wages!!!
Unbelievable
He has taken from the pot for 17 years, whilst doing nothing productive, other than to disrupt.
He's created a divided society, where being openly racist is now seemingly acceptable and brought us to a position of political chaos and instability.
You have to be very foolish indeed to be one of his merry band of blinkered supporters.
walm said:
CrutyRammers said:
It's just all so unfair isn't it? You intelligent, moderate, rational types deserve to have your own way. You're better than those others.
M&G are the third fund to stop redemptions.Thank goodness we have our sovereignty back though.
People who invested in the FTSE100 just 2 weeks ago have made 11.2%. As the effects of the competetive Pound become clear the stock markets will have another surge. I predict that it will break through the 7000 mark by mid-September
Most of these property funds are doing well if they produce 5% a year.
rscott said:
Greg_D said:
Trabi601 said:
BMRuss said:
Wow, any need to be quite so aggressive?
Of course you're entitled to your opinions, as are everyone else, but for me Farage has been nothing short of brilliant dealing with the EU over the past 17 years and he's achieved more in that time than anyone else that I can think of.
If anyone has experience dealing with these EU bods it's him and he should be heavily involved now, when Farage speaks, people listen.
He rarely turned up to do a day's work. He's a disgrace and no better than the people he claimed to be campaigning against.Of course you're entitled to your opinions, as are everyone else, but for me Farage has been nothing short of brilliant dealing with the EU over the past 17 years and he's achieved more in that time than anyone else that I can think of.
If anyone has experience dealing with these EU bods it's him and he should be heavily involved now, when Farage speaks, people listen.
Even now, he's refusing to give up his seat - mostly because he's on a nice little earner with a nice pension to come when he does.
Hypocrite of the highest order.
He is proud to be a cuckoo in the nest, why would he go to meetings and other nonsense to waffle on about subsidies for Estonian hippo farmers when he can continue to undermine them???
and yes, why not sit it out and take his due, i would?
Serious question, can you name one other politician who has dedicated their entire career to a single aim that has actually been instrumental in pulling it off? I can't!!!
That said, i do recognise his limitations, his mouth does run away with him sometimes. You need a very different type of person to doggedly pursue a single agenda for so long, those personality traits do not necessarily gel with the consensus building that will be necessary during the negotiations. To that end, he is probably best out of the picture during that process.
So apart from Farage, Mandela and Ghandi have there been any others who have demonstrated such greatness over the last century?
Trabi601 said:
No, it's the fact that the country was taken in by a charlatan whose entire reason for being was to promote his own hate-filled brand of politics.
He has taken from the pot for 17 years, whilst doing nothing productive, other than to disrupt.
He's created a divided society, where being openly racist is now seemingly acceptable and brought us to a position of political chaos and instability.
You have to be very foolish indeed to be one of his merry band of blinkered supporters.
See a doctor.He has taken from the pot for 17 years, whilst doing nothing productive, other than to disrupt.
He's created a divided society, where being openly racist is now seemingly acceptable and brought us to a position of political chaos and instability.
You have to be very foolish indeed to be one of his merry band of blinkered supporters.
Trabi601 said:
Greg_D said:
So you are you genuinely getting bent out of shape on account of one person's undeserved salary?
Of all the intermixed issues at play here your real bone of contention is nigel farage's wages!!!
Unbelievable
No, it's the fact that the country was taken in by a charlatan whose entire reason for being was to promote his own hate-filled brand of politics.Of all the intermixed issues at play here your real bone of contention is nigel farage's wages!!!
Unbelievable
He has taken from the pot for 17 years, whilst doing nothing productive, other than to disrupt.
He's created a divided society, where being openly racist is now seemingly acceptable and brought us to a position of political chaos and instability.
You have to be very foolish indeed to be one of his merry band of blinkered supporters.
If Fromage really did divide society - all on his own - and has engaged in 'hate filled' politics, what would have driven him to that? What are his 'openly racist' views?
The current political instability is as much the fault of the consensus politics we've endured as it is the usurper UKIP'ers. It says much of the system if it teeters after just one democratic vote...
The Don of Croy said:
This should probably be cross-posted to the 'angry people' thread - seems appropriate.
If Fromage really did divide society - all on his own - and has engaged in 'hate filled' politics, what would have driven him to that? What are his 'openly racist' views?
The current political instability is as much the fault of the consensus politics we've endured as it is the usurper UKIP'ers. It says much of the system if it teeters after just one democratic vote...
When you specifically have to put in place a policy to stop BNP members joining your party - what does that say about the kind of people you're attracting? (No other party has had to do this!)If Fromage really did divide society - all on his own - and has engaged in 'hate filled' politics, what would have driven him to that? What are his 'openly racist' views?
The current political instability is as much the fault of the consensus politics we've endured as it is the usurper UKIP'ers. It says much of the system if it teeters after just one democratic vote...
What a lovely society we are living in.
http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/polish-family-in-p...
That's what Farage has done for our country.
alfie2244 said:
Trabi601 said:
BMRuss said:
I'm going to miss this guy...would rather him than May as PM, he talks so much sense, hope he brings the European commission down if they haven't done so themselves soon enough.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hoNGVOXUsY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hoNGVOXUsY
Even his own constituents can see he's a one trick pony and didn't want him anywhere near UK parliament.
We won!
alfie2244 said:
ps it is 35 mins long but you posted 15mins after the link was put on.......but you did watch it all didn't you?
Tut. Tut.What a dreadful accusation. A Remainer would never try to mislead us.
Trabi601 said:
When you specifically have to put in place a policy to stop BNP members joining your party - what does that say about the kind of people you're attracting? (No other party has had to do this!)
What a lovely society we are living in.
http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/polish-family-in-p...
That's what Farage has done for our country.
But I cannot quite make out the signature on that letter - is it Nige?What a lovely society we are living in.
http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/polish-family-in-p...
That's what Farage has done for our country.
s2art said:
Trabi601 said:
No, it's the fact that the country was taken in by a charlatan whose entire reason for being was to promote his own hate-filled brand of politics.
He has taken from the pot for 17 years, whilst doing nothing productive, other than to disrupt.
He's created a divided society, where being openly racist is now seemingly acceptable and brought us to a position of political chaos and instability.
You have to be very foolish indeed to be one of his merry band of blinkered supporters.
See a doctor.He has taken from the pot for 17 years, whilst doing nothing productive, other than to disrupt.
He's created a divided society, where being openly racist is now seemingly acceptable and brought us to a position of political chaos and instability.
You have to be very foolish indeed to be one of his merry band of blinkered supporters.
Trabi601 said:
BMRuss said:
Sorry but that's just nonsense.
Why should he give up his seat then? Are we out of the EU now?
He's more than earned his money, after all, paying Tusk €300k is definitely good value for money
He didn't turn up for votes, he didn't turn up for committee meetings (those poor fishermen he used for his own benefit during the campaign - it was his job to sit on a committee and fight for them!).Why should he give up his seat then? Are we out of the EU now?
He's more than earned his money, after all, paying Tusk €300k is definitely good value for money
Just because he had an agenda to take the UK out of the EU, doesn't mean he should have ignored his duties as a paid MEP. He failed the people he was paid to represent - which is unforgivable.
How people have been taken in by him, I'll never know.
The reason that we voted him into office was because we felt that he was the best man for the job.
Recent events have demonstrated that our faith in him has been rewarded.
Never in our wildest dreams could we have hoped for a better outcome.
don4l said:
I concur. Posssibly Ghandi as well.
So apart from Farage, Mandela and Ghandi have there been any others who have demonstrated such greatness over the last century?
Well I am rubbing shoulders with Ghandi on the political compass thingy....whodathunkit? So apart from Farage, Mandela and Ghandi have there been any others who have demonstrated such greatness over the last century?
Wonder where our very own immature Mr angry would sit?
Trabi601 said:
BMRuss said:
What authority does he actually have with the fisheries policy then? Nothing he says would be of any benefit whatsoever!
How people cannot see what this guy wanted to achieve from the outset is beyond me, as I said, he's more than earned his money for me.
You can't influence if you're not there. If you're not there, you're 'toughing' as people say around these parts.How people cannot see what this guy wanted to achieve from the outset is beyond me, as I said, he's more than earned his money for me.
If a TV chef can make a difference, why can't a paid MEP?
Far more!
don4l said:
walm said:
CrutyRammers said:
It's just all so unfair isn't it? You intelligent, moderate, rational types deserve to have your own way. You're better than those others.
M&G are the third fund to stop redemptions.Thank goodness we have our sovereignty back though.
People who invested in the FTSE100 just 2 weeks ago have made 11.2%. As the effects of the competetive Pound become clear the stock markets will have another surge. I predict that it will break through the 7000 mark by mid-September
Most of these property funds are doing well if they produce 5% a year.
walm said:
don4l said:
walm said:
CrutyRammers said:
It's just all so unfair isn't it? You intelligent, moderate, rational types deserve to have your own way. You're better than those others.
M&G are the third fund to stop redemptions.Thank goodness we have our sovereignty back though.
People who invested in the FTSE100 just 2 weeks ago have made 11.2%. As the effects of the competetive Pound become clear the stock markets will have another surge. I predict that it will break through the 7000 mark by mid-September
Most of these property funds are doing well if they produce 5% a year.
What exactly did I write that you disagree with?
You never seem able to articulate your position.
Do you agree that the stock markets are doing very well at the moment?
Do you agree that these property funds are doing nowhere as good?
Where would you put your money at the moment?
Trabi601 said:
When you specifically have to put in place a policy to stop BNP members joining your party - what does that say about the kind of people you're attracting? (No other party has had to do this!)
What a lovely society we are living in.
http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/polish-family-in-p...
That's what Farage has done for our country.
When a party promotes controlled immigration as a part of its policies it will excite a racist element in society,it would be naive to suggest otherwise,however you a wrong to assert that all or most UKIP supporters are racist.What a lovely society we are living in.
http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/polish-family-in-p...
That's what Farage has done for our country.
The main reason most people support UKIP is because they feel the mainstream parties are not responding to their concerns and what they feel is a decline in their quality of life.
Unfortunately immigrants and minorities have always been targeted and scapegoated when the going gets tough.
I suggest that it is the fact that an unusually large influx of immigrants in a short space of time,many of whom have not unexpectedly brought their alien cultures with them ,combined with the lack of infrastructure to deal with the influx ,has exacerbated the situation.
I do not know your politics but assure you that the mealy mouthed apologies of the extreme Left for the antisemitism of some of their members is just as bad.
I am sure that Corbyn and his cohorts do not see themselves as prejudiced but to those they offend and denigrate that's how they appear to be.
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