Balanced Question Time panel tonight - of course not! Vol 3

[Tuna]

Red 4 said:

You're the one who said the reason for the increase in the north was solely due to people breaking the rules.

Flat out lie. I have said no such thing.

Red 4 said:

You're the one who said if we all just washed our hands and maintained social distancing then this wouldn't be happening (North v South thing).

Another flat out lie. I have said no such thing.

Feel free to provide quotes where I have said either of these things, or said anything this being specific to North vs South.

[Red 4]

Tuna said:

Where those breakouts occur will be down to local behaviours. Follow the guidelines and we'll see fewer breakouts in your area. Big breakouts so far have consistently been associated with people breaking the guidelines.

Tuna. 30 seconds and I found this.

Do you want me to spend a bit more time on it and prove (with evidence, obviously) that you talk nonsense and then deny saying what you did actually say ?

Let me know. I'm busy today but exposing your hypocrisy isn't difficult. I'm happy to spend another 30 seconds or so.

[Tuna]

Red 4 said:

Tuna said:

Where those breakouts occur will be down to local behaviours. Follow the guidelines and we'll see fewer breakouts in your area. Big breakouts so far have consistently been associated with people breaking the guidelines.

Tuna. 30 seconds and I found this.

Do you want me to spend a bit more time on it and prove (with evidence, obviously) that you talk nonsense and then deny saying what you did actually say ?

Let me know. I'm busy today but exposing your hypocrisy isn't difficult. I'm happy to spend another 30 seconds or so.

Oh dear.

Red 4 said:

You're the one who said the reason for the increase in the north was solely due to people breaking the rules.

You are a liar. Or you have serious comprehension problems. Which is it?

[Red 4]

Tuna. Clutching at straws I see. Keep digging. You're funny.

Your meaning is clear. I don't have comprehension difficulties. Evidently you do.

[i4got]

Tuna said:

Red 4 said:

Tuna said:

Where those breakouts occur will be down to local behaviours. Follow the guidelines and we'll see fewer breakouts in your area. Big breakouts so far have consistently been associated with people breaking the guidelines.

Tuna. 30 seconds and I found this.

Do you want me to spend a bit more time on it and prove (with evidence, obviously) that you talk nonsense and then deny saying what you did actually say ?

Let me know. I'm busy today but exposing your hypocrisy isn't difficult. I'm happy to spend another 30 seconds or so.

Oh dear.

Red 4 said:

You're the one who said the reason for the increase in the north was solely due to people breaking the rules.

You are a liar. Or you have serious comprehension problems. Which is it?

Have we learnt nothing from this thread.? People are trying to give a single reason or excuse when in reality life is more nuanced and there could be a myriad of contributing factors. It's rarely a question of either/or and normally a bit of both.




So he could be a liar AND have a serious comprehension problem.

[Red 4]

Tuna said:

I''m saying that in every area where we've seen a spike (irrespective of whether its North, South or even in another country), it's been directly linked back to ineffective social distancing and failure to follow the guidelines.

And another one. Granted you did mention the South here too. Things are looking up.

[Tuna]

Red 4 said:

Tuna said:

I''m saying that in every area where we've seen a spike (irrespective of whether its North, South or even in another country), it's been directly linked back to ineffective social distancing and failure to follow the guidelines.

And another one. Granted you did mention the South here too. Things are looking up.

You're just embarrassing yourself now. "Linked to" is not the same as "solely caused by".

Keep digging though - it makes it clear you're a liar if you refuse to admit you have trouble understanding.

[Red 4]

Tuna said:

Red 4 said:

Tuna said:

I''m saying that in every area where we've seen a spike (irrespective of whether its North, South or even in another country), it's been directly linked back to ineffective social distancing and failure to follow the guidelines.

And another one. Granted you did mention the South here too. Things are looking up.

You're just embarrassing yourself now. "Linked to" is not the same as "solely caused by".

Keep digging though - it makes it clear you're a liar if you refuse to admit you have trouble understanding.

Keep dancing on the head of that pin, you're embarrassing yourself now.

Your meaning is clear. The virus is more prevalent in the north. You say that issue is due to people breaking the rules.

Ergo, it's your own fault.

Are you going to blame care home workers for breaking the rules and being responsible for the deaths in care homes again ?

You really are an odious individual.

[Tuna]

Red 4 said:

Your meaning is clear. The virus is more prevalent in the north. You say that issue is due to people breaking the rules.

Ergo, it's your own fault.

Are you going to blame care home workers for breaking the rules and being responsible for the deaths in care homes again ?

You really are an odious individual.

The only reason I've bothered to reply to your bile is your wilful misrepresentation of what is being said. You've made up a ridiculous story in your head, and even when called out on it, when you were incapable of providing any evidence for what you're claiming, you've just doubled down and attempted to put words in my mouth.

Typical bullying behaviour. You've made some truly offensive suggestions, and then attempt to blame me for something that exists only in your head.

Go pick a fight with someone else, I've got nothing more to add here.

[Red 4]

Tuna said:

Red 4 said:

Your meaning is clear. The virus is more prevalent in the north. You say that issue is due to people breaking the rules.

Ergo, it's your own fault.

Are you going to blame care home workers for breaking the rules and being responsible for the deaths in care homes again ?

You really are an odious individual.

The only reason I've bothered to reply to your bile is your wilful misrepresentation of what is being said. You've made up a ridiculous story in your head, and even when called out on it, when you were incapable of providing any evidence for what you're claiming, you've just doubled down and attempted to put words in my mouth.

Typical bullying behaviour. You've made some truly offensive suggestions, and then attempt to blame me for something that exists only in your head.

Go pick a fight with someone else, I've got nothing more to add here.

Dummy well and truly spat.

I have not made anything up in my head and I have not misrepresented anything you've said.
I'll leave that kind of stuff to you (misrepresenting Andy Burnham,for example).

I've quoted you. It's called evidence. You either said it or you didn't.

It appears your pride has taken a knock because others have called you out on your bullst.
I'm not the only one - on this thread and on others.

I'm sure you'll just run away temporarily to lick your wounds and you'll be back.

Bless.

Edited by Red 4 on Monday 12th October 14:13

[Tuna]

Red 4 said:

I'm sure you'll just run away temporarily to lick your wounds and you'll be back.

Bless. Don't worry, I'm not going anywhere.

There's no point in continuing this particular discussion though if all you're going to do is respond to each post with more lies. I've said my piece and I'm sure people can judge if your idea of 'evidence' is reliable or not.

[Tresco]

What's happened to this thread?

I miss the days of Techiedave, or whatever his name was, bemoaning his unrequited love for Diane Abbott and what he'd like to do to pretty much every other female on the panel..

[Red 4]

Tuna said:

Red 4 said:

I'm sure you'll just run away temporarily to lick your wounds and you'll be back.

Bless. Don't worry, I'm not going anywhere.

There's no point in continuing this particular discussion though if all you're going to do is respond to each post with more lies. I've said my piece and I'm sure people can judge if your idea of 'evidence' is reliable or not.

Now look, you've either "got nothing more to add" or you have. Make your mind up Sunshine.

I appreciate making your mind up isn't one of your strong points, hence the backtracking and flouncing, but you can always work on that.

So yeah, I'm sure people will read the thread and make their own minds up but - be warned - many people on here have marked your card as "Tory Apologist and Boris Ultra".
I can't say I disagree with them.

[Bonefish Blues]

Tresco said:

What's happened to this thread?

I miss the days of Techiedave, or whatever his name was, bemoaning his unrequited love for Diane Abbott and what he'd like to do to pretty much every other female on the panel..

Dunno, but it's a shame.

[PushedDover]

Bonefish Blues said:

Tresco said:

What's happened to this thread?

I miss the days of Techiedave, or whatever his name was, bemoaning his unrequited love for Diane Abbott and what he'd like to do to pretty much every other female on the panel..

Dunno, but it's a shame.

Can a mod delete everything post QT airing on Thursday ?

Tidying it up and removing all the finger pointing at individuals on PH and reverting to the thread content of actual QT and the panel ?

[Red 4]

PushedDover said:

Can a mod delete everything post QT airing on Thursday ?

Tidying it up and removing all the finger pointing at individuals on PH and reverting to the thread content of actual QT and the panel ?

Why ? Because you don't like what's been said ? Because you've been proven to be in error about your opinions ? Because you denied saying something you did actually say and it's been quoted on Friday (and since) ?

Burnham was on QT. QT was about measures being imposed in the North. The thread has centred on those points.

Don't like the posts, don't read them. Simple.

[Tresco]

Red 4 said:

PushedDover said:

Can a mod delete everything post QT airing on Thursday ?

Tidying it up and removing all the finger pointing at individuals on PH and reverting to the thread content of actual QT and the panel ?

Why ? Because you don't like what's been said ? Because you've been proven to be in error about your opinions ? Because you denied saying something you did actually say and it's been quoted on Friday (and since) ?

Burnham was on QT. QT was about measures being imposed in the North. The thread has centred on those points.

Don't like the posts, don't read them. Simple.

Your insistence on having the last word and indulging in a petty squabble is ruining what was an enjoyable thread.

Take the hint and move your grudge match to the Boris Johnson or one of the many coronavirus threads.

[Red 4]

Tresco said:

Your insistence on having the last word and indulging in a petty squabble is ruining what was an enjoyable thread.

Take the hint and move your grudge match to the Boris Johnson or one of the many coronavirus threads.

Enjoyable ? Question Time was last Thursday. You've added zero to the thread apart from moaning about what's been added since.

I (and others) have discussed Burnham and the incoming lockdown. What have you discussed ? Granted it's been heated but what do you expect ? It's PH.

Over to you. What did you think about QT ? Burnham ? Lockdown ? Furlough V2 ? North V South ?

I just find it really weird when someone has nothing to add but moans about what others have said.

[i4got]

Red 4 said:

Enjoyable ? Question Time was last Thursday. You've added zero to the thread apart from moaning about what's been added since.

I (and others) have discussed Burnham and the incoming lockdown. What have you discussed ? Granted it's been heated but what do you expect ? It's PH.

Over to you. What did you think about QT ? Burnham ? Lockdown ? Furlough V2 ? North V South ?

I just find it really weird when someone has nothing to add but moans about what others have said.

You haven't 'discussed' anything - everyone else's posts are dismissed as lies. your opinions have nothing to back them up and yet you consider them facts. And I suspect that the reason the thread has died and most others aren't contributing is that you come across as a tt of the highest order who no-one want to have a 'discussion' with. Just my opinion however.

[markyb_lcy]

i4got said:

Red 4 said:

Enjoyable ? Question Time was last Thursday. You've added zero to the thread apart from moaning about what's been added since.

I (and others) have discussed Burnham and the incoming lockdown. What have you discussed ? Granted it's been heated but what do you expect ? It's PH.

Over to you. What did you think about QT ? Burnham ? Lockdown ? Furlough V2 ? North V South ?

I just find it really weird when someone has nothing to add but moans about what others have said.

You haven't 'discussed' anything - everyone else's posts are dismissed as lies. your opinions have nothing to back them up and yet you consider them facts. And I suspect that the reason the thread has died and most others aren't contributing is that you come across as a tt of the highest order who no-one want to have a 'discussion' with. Just my opinion however.

It could just be that QT was 4 days ago. The edition week before last didn’t even generate a single comment.

Those moaning could contribute some talking points relevant to the thread if they’re so keen to talk about QT.