Girl sends rejection letter to Oxford

Girl sends rejection letter to Oxford

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Rude-boy

22,227 posts

235 months

Monday 6th August 2012
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If you wish to question and possibly change the ‘overly traditional and formal institutions’ which are ‘archaic and elitist’ you would do well to study why they are evolved that way first.

I will grant you that they are not always the best ways and that it is easy to see ‘quick fixes’ in a few areas which would bring advantages in the short term yet, as with everything else in the World, there are procedures to follow which have been learnt the hard way over the years to give the best chance of the correct outcome. Given that the law, and it’s study and practice, has been about for a short while now those procedures are long established over many areas.

Just because something is old or traditional does not mean that it has no value or that it needs to be changed. Look at the Partnership Act 1890 or the Wills Act 1837, both are rather old yet are still a rock solid basis for the law in those areas, hence why they are still with us, albeit with a few amendments.

KaraK

13,213 posts

211 months

Monday 6th August 2012
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John Bunnell said:
I couldn't be bothered reading the whole thread, but honestly, those suggesting she's arrogant or has ruined her career just seem insecure or jealous.

I'm studying law, and I can't tell you how refreshing it is to have someone actually questioning the overly traditional and formal institutions. The legal profession is one that has always been elitist and tried to exclude those who aren't familiar with, or educated in it's strange policies and procedures.

This is the sort of person I would want to hire, just for the fact that she has questioned the presumably archaic traditions and excesses that go hand in hand with this sort of university and degree. It shows a propensity to question situations and facts that will serve her well down the track in her career as a lawyer.
With all due respect I'd suggest that it's a little arrogant and foolish of you to dismiss peoples opinions out of hand when, by your own admission, you can't be bothered to even read them through properly. As for talking about who you would and wouldn't hire when from the sounds of it you haven't even finished qualifying and may well not even have been hired yourself yet is maybe a little presumptuous don't you think?

I'm not in the legal profession but I wouldn't be suprised if it's similar to many fields (including my own) where studying and practicing are worlds apart.

harry010

4,423 posts

189 months

Monday 6th August 2012
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Tonker is spot on.

Bill Carr

2,234 posts

236 months

Monday 6th August 2012
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10 Pence Short said:
Oxford is arguably the most revered name in education.
What about Hull?

PugwasHDJ80

7,543 posts

223 months

Monday 6th August 2012
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Bill Carr said:
10 Pence Short said:
Oxford is arguably the most revered name in education.
What about Hull?
"That's right. Oxford's a complete dump"

TheEnd

15,370 posts

190 months

Monday 6th August 2012
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Bill Carr said:
10 Pence Short said:
Oxford is arguably the most revered name in education.
What about Hull?
Oxford's a complete dump!

WreckedGecko

1,191 posts

203 months

Monday 6th August 2012
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Did anyone flag this?

"while you may believe your decision to hold interviews in grand formal settings is inspiring, it allows public school applicants to flourish... and intimidates state school applicants, distorting the academic potential of both".

She also criticised Magdalen College's "traditions and rituals", and the gap between "minorities and white middle class students".

Her college... in Brockenhurst... about the most middle class white town in the country.

http://www.brock.ac.uk/

Perhaps she could be a bit more patronising, but not witout significant effort.

I know this was months ago but she is still a dick.

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

219 months

Monday 6th August 2012
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Bill Carr said:
10 Pence Short said:
Oxford is arguably the most revered name in education.
What about Hull?
It's the most revered name in Hull.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

200 months

Monday 6th August 2012
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10 Pence Short said:
Bill Carr said:
10 Pence Short said:
Oxford is arguably the most revered name in education.
What about Hull?
It's the most revered name in Hull.
That's Kingston-upon-Hull please!

turbobloke

104,693 posts

262 months

Monday 6th August 2012
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rhinochopig said:
10 Pence Short said:
Bill Carr said:
10 Pence Short said:
Oxford is arguably the most revered name in education.
What about Hull?
It's the most revered name in Hull.
That's Kingston-upon-Hull please!
If Hull is the best then Grimsby is next to best...

harry010

4,423 posts

189 months

Monday 6th August 2012
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I was born in Grimsby, never did me any harm! wink

turbobloke

104,693 posts

262 months

Tuesday 7th August 2012
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harry010 said:
I was born in Grimsby, never did me any harm! wink
So, that's two of us who escaped relatively unscathed smile

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

200 months

Tuesday 7th August 2012
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turbobloke said:
harry010 said:
I was born in Grimsby, never did me any harm! wink
So, that's two of us who escaped relatively unscathed smile
Ah so that explains why you're so obsessed with climate TB. Ambient temperate did make a hell of a difference to the olfactory experience in both Hull and Grimsby.

turbobloke

104,693 posts

262 months

Tuesday 7th August 2012
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rhinochopig said:
turbobloke said:
harry010 said:
I was born in Grimsby, never did me any harm! wink
So, that's two of us who escaped relatively unscathed smile
Ah so that explains why you're so obsessed with climate TB. Ambient temperate did make a hell of a difference to the olfactory experience in both Hull and Grimsby.
There's something decidedly fishy about that remark. Which almost takes me over to the Sean Connery thread with a tasteless joke about a tart and a blind man on a train. Almost smile

John Bunnell

97 posts

148 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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anonymous said:
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I mean I'm not under any misconceptions that mine, this particular girl's, or any other law student's idealism is going to even have a minor impact on the way things have been done for years on end. Of course I realise that idealism and what not is all very easy in university, and that it is near impossible to change the way anything is done in the 'real world'.

Getting towards the end of my degree, I just think that I have a lower opinion of the law and see a great deal more problems with it than when I was uneducated, and a layman in the field. Obviously things will be slightly different over here (Australia), but I think my post was more just a reaction to my ever increasing cynism to the law with every year of my studies.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

200 months

Wednesday 8th August 2012
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John Bunnell said:
anonymous said:
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I mean I'm not under any misconceptions that mine, this particular girl's, or any other law student's idealism is going to even have a minor impact on the way things have been done for years on end. Of course I realise that idealism and what not is all very easy in university, and that it is near impossible to change the way anything is done in the 'real world'.

Getting towards the end of my degree, I just think that I have a lower opinion of the law and see a great deal more problems with it than when I was uneducated, and a layman in the field. Obviously things will be slightly different over here (Australia), but I think my post was more just a reaction to my ever increasing cynism to the law with every year of my studies.
What a depressing post. You SHOULD leave Uni with the attitude that you CAN change the world. Because just occasionally someone does. Such cynicism before you've finished - are you sure you're doing the right degree?