May Vs Corbyn live on the telly,
Discussion
alfabadass said:
May got destroyed and her hand won't be much stronger come next week. She may even be out of a job.
What a shambles she is!
She didn't get destroyed one bit. What a shambles she is!
Paxman played the playground bully with ridiculous questions and insults - she did well to keep her composure. I'm sure what she really wanted to do was quite rightly stand up and say 'f
k this, you're acting like a complete prick. Nobody talks to me like that, I'm off',But that's not the done thing, now is it.
Cobnapint said:
She didn't get destroyed one bit.
Paxman played the playground bully with ridiculous questions and insults - she did well to keep her composure. I'm sure what she really wanted to do was quite rightly stand up and say 'fk this, you're acting like a complete prick. Nobody talks to me like that, I'm off',
But that's not the done thing, now is it.
Paxman was trying to provoke a reaction from both leaders. It makes for good TV.Paxman played the playground bully with ridiculous questions and insults - she did well to keep her composure. I'm sure what she really wanted to do was quite rightly stand up and say 'f
k this, you're acting like a complete prick. Nobody talks to me like that, I'm off',But that's not the done thing, now is it.
Both kept their cool quite well I thought.
powerstroke said:
It's really simple... A remainer knows three things !!
1 , is there are only two industrys in the UK ... fishing and financial.
2, If we leave the EU the sky will fall ...
3, there isn't anywhere outside the EU that we could trade with ...
ha ha cheers it was the bit about the Whisky sales and the Sikh's that threw me.1 , is there are only two industrys in the UK ... fishing and financial.
2, If we leave the EU the sky will fall ...
3, there isn't anywhere outside the EU that we could trade with ...
I have a feeling May was badly advised (perhaps by design) and a stable May government competently arranging Brexit for us will come to a screeching halt and she'll be out.
Many had more respect for her before she started lying about what Corbyn said about Manchester - a lie easy checked - and the tories had little else going for them except for her quiet competence, which evaporated when she called this election.
Also these quiet tories can be extremely dangerous: remember John Major - the man who actually signed us into the EU superstate without asking and without a mandate to do so, technically high treason, and the cause of the Brexit debate today that gave us May.
I like Corbyn on the basic principle that the Israelis and the establishment loath and fear him, but he'll be unable to achieve much and I suspect we're in for a "can't do anything except argue" government next. Which in practice is not always a bad thing, look what Blair did with a strong mandate and confident leader: helped set the middle east on fire (and shortly after became a multi millionaire as his reward).
Many had more respect for her before she started lying about what Corbyn said about Manchester - a lie easy checked - and the tories had little else going for them except for her quiet competence, which evaporated when she called this election.
Also these quiet tories can be extremely dangerous: remember John Major - the man who actually signed us into the EU superstate without asking and without a mandate to do so, technically high treason, and the cause of the Brexit debate today that gave us May.
I like Corbyn on the basic principle that the Israelis and the establishment loath and fear him, but he'll be unable to achieve much and I suspect we're in for a "can't do anything except argue" government next. Which in practice is not always a bad thing, look what Blair did with a strong mandate and confident leader: helped set the middle east on fire (and shortly after became a multi millionaire as his reward).
esxste said:
Globs said:
I have a feeling May was badly advised (perhaps by design) and a stable May government competently arranging Brexit for us will come to a screeching halt and she'll be out.
Maybe she knows what a clusterfk brexit will be and wants out. Although history will prove that it was the 'strong & stable' one who actually gave Labour a chance, when they didn't have to.
esxste said:
Globs said:
I have a feeling May was badly advised (perhaps by design) and a stable May government competently arranging Brexit for us will come to a screeching halt and she'll be out.
Maybe she knows what a clusterfk brexit will be and wants out. t at impromptu public debates doesn't mean she is st as PM or will be st in a hard negotiation with serious people about a serious matter.Easy to forget with all the current election b
ks going on, where none of the above matters. We had years of slick persona aholes like Blair and Cameron, I'd much prefer a serious person with poor public communication skills who is capable of listening and who knows their subject working on my side, than either of those pillocks.jsf said:
She wouldn't have stood for leader if that were the case. It would have been easy to let Boris, Gove and Ledsom take the poisoned chalice, but she didn't, she went for the top job and so far has done a decent job of it. I have little doubt she is trying to do the best for the country, the fact she is st at impromptu public debates doesn't mean she is st as PM or will be st in a hard negotiation with serious people about a serious matter.
Easy to forget with all the current election bks going on, where none of the above matters. We had years of slick persona aholes like Blair and Cameron, I'd much prefer a serious person with poor public communication skills who is capable of listening and who knows their subject working on my side, than either of those pillocks.
^^^^ This in spades. Bang on.t at impromptu public debates doesn't mean she is st as PM or will be st in a hard negotiation with serious people about a serious matter.Easy to forget with all the current election b
ks going on, where none of the above matters. We had years of slick persona aholes like Blair and Cameron, I'd much prefer a serious person with poor public communication skills who is capable of listening and who knows their subject working on my side, than either of those pillocks.WelshChris said:
jsf said:
She wouldn't have stood for leader if that were the case. It would have been easy to let Boris, Gove and Ledsom take the poisoned chalice, but she didn't, she went for the top job and so far has done a decent job of it. I have little doubt she is trying to do the best for the country, the fact she is st at impromptu public debates doesn't mean she is st as PM or will be st in a hard negotiation with serious people about a serious matter.
Easy to forget with all the current election bks going on, where none of the above matters. We had years of slick persona aholes like Blair and Cameron, I'd much prefer a serious person with poor public communication skills who is capable of listening and who knows their subject working on my side, than either of those pillocks.
^^^^ This in spades. Bang on.t at impromptu public debates doesn't mean she is st as PM or will be st in a hard negotiation with serious people about a serious matter.Easy to forget with all the current election b
ks going on, where none of the above matters. We had years of slick persona aholes like Blair and Cameron, I'd much prefer a serious person with poor public communication skills who is capable of listening and who knows their subject working on my side, than either of those pillocks.It was good to see the back of Blair and his snake oil, and not too bad to see the back of CMD and his lime green tie. PR fluffer.
turbobloke said:
WelshChris said:
jsf said:
She wouldn't have stood for leader if that were the case. It would have been easy to let Boris, Gove and Ledsom take the poisoned chalice, but she didn't, she went for the top job and so far has done a decent job of it. I have little doubt she is trying to do the best for the country, the fact she is st at impromptu public debates doesn't mean she is st as PM or will be st in a hard negotiation with serious people about a serious matter.
Easy to forget with all the current election bks going on, where none of the above matters. We had years of slick persona aholes like Blair and Cameron, I'd much prefer a serious person with poor public communication skills who is capable of listening and who knows their subject working on my side, than either of those pillocks.
^^^^ This in spades. Bang on.t at impromptu public debates doesn't mean she is st as PM or will be st in a hard negotiation with serious people about a serious matter.Easy to forget with all the current election b
ks going on, where none of the above matters. We had years of slick persona aholes like Blair and Cameron, I'd much prefer a serious person with poor public communication skills who is capable of listening and who knows their subject working on my side, than either of those pillocks.It was good to see the back of Blair and his snake oil, and not too bad to see the back of CMD and his lime green tie. PR fluffer.
This is complete confirmation that she is weak and wobbly.
SpeedMattersNot said:
turbobloke said:
WelshChris said:
jsf said:
She wouldn't have stood for leader if that were the case. It would have been easy to let Boris, Gove and Ledsom take the poisoned chalice, but she didn't, she went for the top job and so far has done a decent job of it. I have little doubt she is trying to do the best for the country, the fact she is st at impromptu public debates doesn't mean she is st as PM or will be st in a hard negotiation with serious people about a serious matter.
Easy to forget with all the current election bks going on, where none of the above matters. We had years of slick persona aholes like Blair and Cameron, I'd much prefer a serious person with poor public communication skills who is capable of listening and who knows their subject working on my side, than either of those pillocks.
^^^^ This in spades. Bang on.t at impromptu public debates doesn't mean she is st as PM or will be st in a hard negotiation with serious people about a serious matter.Easy to forget with all the current election b
ks going on, where none of the above matters. We had years of slick persona aholes like Blair and Cameron, I'd much prefer a serious person with poor public communication skills who is capable of listening and who knows their subject working on my side, than either of those pillocks.It was good to see the back of Blair and his snake oil, and not too bad to see the back of CMD and his lime green tie. PR fluffer.
SpeedMattersNot said:
This is complete confirmation that she is weak and wobbly.
It absolutely is not. Such comments are confirmation that the primary school playground approach is alive and well even after the close of playtime in Cambridge.If she'd followed Corbyn's u-turn the usual suspects would have said she was weak and wobbly for caving in to pressure, and although at this stage plausible denial is available to them, the score is well known.
She has been rumbled in my opinion. Genuinely looked like she was going to cry at points.
At least Corbyn/Labour supporters can join in the fun about Abbot et al but Conservatives are quite defiant supporters. To excuse this act of cowardice yet boast that she's strong and stable is inconceivable!!
At least Corbyn/Labour supporters can join in the fun about Abbot et al but Conservatives are quite defiant supporters. To excuse this act of cowardice yet boast that she's strong and stable is inconceivable!!
SpeedMattersNot said:
She has been rumbled in my opinion. Genuinely looked like she was going to cry at points.
At least Corbyn/Labour supporters can join in the fun about Abbot et al but Conservatives are quite defiant supporters. To excuse this act of cowardice yet boast that she's strong and stable is inconceivable!!
Not so with a step out of the playground.At least Corbyn/Labour supporters can join in the fun about Abbot et al but Conservatives are quite defiant supporters. To excuse this act of cowardice yet boast that she's strong and stable is inconceivable!!
Most whitewash and bullshine on this thread is from left field.
Conservative supporters acknowledge May's strengths but also the odd job she's presided over with parts of the manifesto for example.
When looking for objectivity from both sides, where was all the ner ner nee ner ner highbrow comment from Labour supporters on Corbyn's original decision...largely absent. As it was from Tory voters as far as my view of the thread goes. There was no need and nothing to be gained,
The only reason this cheap shotting salvo exists is due to an opportunistic Corbyn u-turn. He was meant to be in Glos. Previously he had also decided not to attend.
That earlier decision said nothing about his abilities or inabilities to be PM as the distinct shortfall in that department was already well known. The debate tonight didn't turn Corbyn into PM material nor did it damn May as suggested by her partisan opponents.
Lance Catamaran said:
SpeedMattersNot said:
At least Corbyn/Labour supporters can join in the fun about Abbot et al
Eh? Just try saying anything remotely anti-Corbyn on Twitter or Facebook and watch the hate-mob descend upon youAlternatively, ask basic questions in a R4 interview that Corbyn can't cope with, then sit back as the hate twits get going.
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