Laurence Fox - New Political Party
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Electro1980 said:
Randy Winkman said:
smn159 said:
Sophisticated Sarah said:
Randy Winkman said:
As some might recognise on PH I'm a total PC gone mad lefty but I'm also aware that the world we live in means that if people take against you they can totally destroy you on social media. Whatever the right and wrongs are about this particular case I'm slightly nervous. How much of it is real and how much of it is fake?
I do get the feeling his actions are purely to cause outrage in the more mentally unstable Twitter users. He must get some odd pleasures from the abuse?One thing I do wonder is that when (hopefully) the CV19 thing has calmed right down, will so many people still be in the "don't overlook the needs of those with disabilities" camp?
Electro1980 said:
Boringvolvodriver said:
It really doesn’t help those who have genuine reasons for not wearing a face covering though.
A badly thought out way to point out the ludicrous law that says you have to wear a face covering unless you are exempt but you don’t have to prove your exemption.
I hope that he doesn’t actually go in to a shop wearing it.
There is nothing to point out. It’s not ludicrous at all. The implementation of the law is subject to the limitations of the Equalities act and human rights act. The implications of requiring proof outweighs the implications of people abusing it.A badly thought out way to point out the ludicrous law that says you have to wear a face covering unless you are exempt but you don’t have to prove your exemption.
I hope that he doesn’t actually go in to a shop wearing it.
smn159 said:
amgmcqueen said:
Anything that gets the left foaming at the mouth is fine by me!
You're associating scientific consensus with the left?Well conspiracy theories / ignorance / magical thinking seems increasing associated with the right, so makes sense I suppose.
Scientific validation doesn’t function by consensus.
Kawasicki said:
smn159 said:
amgmcqueen said:
Anything that gets the left foaming at the mouth is fine by me!
You're associating scientific consensus with the left?Well conspiracy theories / ignorance / magical thinking seems increasing associated with the right, so makes sense I suppose.
Scientific validation doesn’t function by consensus.
smn159 said:
Kawasicki said:
smn159 said:
amgmcqueen said:
Anything that gets the left foaming at the mouth is fine by me!
You're associating scientific consensus with the left?Well conspiracy theories / ignorance / magical thinking seems increasing associated with the right, so makes sense I suppose.
Scientific validation doesn’t function by consensus.
smn159 said:
Kawasicki said:
smn159 said:
amgmcqueen said:
Anything that gets the left foaming at the mouth is fine by me!
You're associating scientific consensus with the left?Well conspiracy theories / ignorance / magical thinking seems increasing associated with the right, so makes sense I suppose.
Scientific validation doesn’t function by consensus.
Zigster said:
Electro1980 said:
Boringvolvodriver said:
It really doesn’t help those who have genuine reasons for not wearing a face covering though.
A badly thought out way to point out the ludicrous law that says you have to wear a face covering unless you are exempt but you don’t have to prove your exemption.
I hope that he doesn’t actually go in to a shop wearing it.
There is nothing to point out. It’s not ludicrous at all. The implementation of the law is subject to the limitations of the Equalities act and human rights act. The implications of requiring proof outweighs the implications of people abusing it.A badly thought out way to point out the ludicrous law that says you have to wear a face covering unless you are exempt but you don’t have to prove your exemption.
I hope that he doesn’t actually go in to a shop wearing it.
smn159 said:
Entitled.
Maybe you should demand to speak to the manager. When he tells you to f
k right off you can post here about your outrage
Yes, I am entitled. Entitled to decide that I don't need a mask to enter a supermarket. Entitled to claim that wearing one would cause me distress. Entitled to do this without explaining my entire medical and mental health history to someone before buying essentials from a supermarket. And entitled to write as much on an official looking piece of paper if it helps pacify some busy body Covid fanatic.Maybe you should demand to speak to the manager. When he tells you to f
k right off you can post here about your outrageI'm not asking anything of anyone else, so "entitled" - while calling me that might make you feel all big and sensible - is not really the right word. I care about freedom and truth and both of these are casualties of this absurd exercise. This isn't a killer blow to fight back against it, but a funny gesture to highlight one of the obvious absurdities of it. Good on him.
Kawasicki said:
smn159 said:
amgmcqueen said:
Anything that gets the left foaming at the mouth is fine by me!
You're associating scientific consensus with the left?Well conspiracy theories / ignorance / magical thinking seems increasing associated with the right, so makes sense I suppose.
Scientific validation doesn’t function by consensus.
JuanCarlosFandango said:
smn159 said:
Entitled.
Maybe you should demand to speak to the manager. When he tells you to fk right off you can post here about your outrage
Yes, I am entitled. Entitled to decide that I don't need a mask to enter a supermarket. Entitled to claim that wearing one would cause me distress. Entitled to do this without explaining my entire medical and mental health history to someone before buying essentials from a supermarket. And entitled to write as much on an official looking piece of paper if it helps pacify some busy body Covid fanatic.Maybe you should demand to speak to the manager. When he tells you to f
k right off you can post here about your outrageI'm not asking anything of anyone else, so "entitled" - while calling me that might make you feel all big and sensible - is not really the right word. I care about freedom and truth and both of these are casualties of this absurd exercise. This isn't a killer blow to fight back against it, but a funny gesture to highlight one of the obvious absurdities of it. Good on him.
t. Apart from anything else it is an insult to those who do live with disabilities that put them in that position. They reduce transmission, improve safety and, in broad terms, save lives. It’s not funny or clever. It’s being obnoxious.Edited by Electro1980 on Sunday 17th January 19:44
Electro1980 said:
That’s fine, if you have the knowledge to challenge the science. If not, well, you are not challenging the consensus. You’re just sharing ignorant babbling. People can hold an opinion on what we should do with this facts, but people totally unqualified feel they have the authority to stand equal to experts in their field, and that is part of what has got us in the mess we are in.
Nope. Even if you have no knowledge in a field, you have every right, obligation almost, to question the science. If the science is sound the data will convince, and not just selected data. That’s the scientific process. It doesn’t require expertise to understand. If a scientific expert can’t state his case honestly, including his doubts, then he’s not acting scientifically... he’s not actually a scientist.What was it someone ones said...
Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts.
JuanCarlosFandango said:
It's just a piece of paper to wave at the Captain Mainwaring types who are getting increasingly militant about demanding this crap to enter supermarkets. Like a sort of talisman to wave at superstitious primitives.
Superstitious primitives are the ones saying that Covid will just go away. Or that sunlight stops Covid transmission. Or bleach internally kills it. Or Jesus cures it. The people who want consistent use of masks indoor are the opposite of superstitious.
Zigster said:
Electro1980 said:
Boringvolvodriver said:
It really doesn’t help those who have genuine reasons for not wearing a face covering though.
A badly thought out way to point out the ludicrous law that says you have to wear a face covering unless you are exempt but you don’t have to prove your exemption.
I hope that he doesn’t actually go in to a shop wearing it.
There is nothing to point out. It’s not ludicrous at all. The implementation of the law is subject to the limitations of the Equalities act and human rights act. The implications of requiring proof outweighs the implications of people abusing it.A badly thought out way to point out the ludicrous law that says you have to wear a face covering unless you are exempt but you don’t have to prove your exemption.
I hope that he doesn’t actually go in to a shop wearing it.
Guess what? If this Fox tosser genuinely applied for some sort of mask exemption on actual medical grounds he would fail. He doesn't seem to have a problem with his lungs when he's spouting b
ks on Question Time, not that they'll ever have him back.I honestly wonder what his end game is. He's effectively made himself unemployable, I doubt most casting directors would touch him, and lots of actors will probably not want to work with him. Is he sufficiently minted that he can chuck it all in?
kevinon said:
Superstitious primitives are the ones saying that Covid will just go away. Or that sunlight stops Covid transmission. Or bleach internally kills it. Or Jesus cures it.
The people who want consistent use of masks indoor are the opposite of superstitious.
Why do you think that?The people who want consistent use of masks indoor are the opposite of superstitious.
Randy Winkman said:
As some might recognise on PH I'm a total PC gone mad lefty but I'm also aware that the world we live in means that if people take against you they can totally destroy you on social media. Whatever the right and wrongs are about this particular case I'm slightly nervous. How much of it is real and how much of it is fake?
When I read of his comments on Question Time, there was a sort of logic to them. It's fair to say that I thought it a bit of a risk to voice them, but a bit brave as well. I kept meaning to venture into YouTube to see what he actually said, but never did. Now, though, brave is perhaps not the first word that springs to mind. He comes over as a self-entitled loon who didn't really want to be an actor.
Mind you, the impression I have is that he doesn't really want to be a politician either. He's weird.
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