Political bias at BBC - something has to be done surely
Discussion
coppice said:
No stranger than those who just cannot wait to fly into yet more self righteous outrage about anything , no matter how remotely , which they can find on the BBC which doesn't mirror precisely their own right wing stance .Or so it appears to this endangered species liberal - I am still looking for this elite conspiracy I am supposed to be part of though....
boyse7en said:
Why do they insist on interviewing that tosser Nigel Farage every time there is a Brexit editorial? He is of absolutely no importance. Its just another example of the BBC pushing its right-wing agenda.
Because they (BBC/left Media) think they can make a fool of him and prove the point that everybody is a RACIST, they do not get it do they 
Group think
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The BBC is “a publicly-funded urban organisation with an abnormally large proportion of younger people, of people in ethnic minorities and almost certainly of gay people, compared with the population at large”.
All this, he said, “creates an innate liberal bias inside the BBC”.
–Andrew Marr
“It’s a bit like walking into a Sunday meeting of the Flat Earth Society. As they discuss great issues of the day, they discuss them from the point of view that the earth is flat.
“If someone says, ‘No, no, no, the earth is round!’, they think this person is an extremist. That’s what it’s like for someone with my right-of-centre views working inside the BBC.”
– Jeff Randall, former BBC business editor
By far the most popular and widely read newspapers at the BBC are The Guardian and The Independent. Producers refer to them routinely for the line to take on running stories, and for inspiration on which items to cover. In the later stages of my career, I lost count of the number of times I asked a producer for a brief on a story, only to be handed a copy of The Guardian and told ‘it’s all in there’.
– Peter Sissons, Former BBC News and Current Affairs presenter
“In the BBC I joined 30 years ago [as a production trainee, in 1979], there was, in much of current affairs, in terms of people’s personal politics, which were quite vocal, a massive bias to the left. The organisation did struggle then with impartiality. And journalistically, staff were quite mystified by the early years of Thatcher.
“Now it is a completely different generation. There is much less overt tribalism among the young journalists who work for the BBC. It is like the New Statesman, which used to be various shades of soft and hard left and is now more technocratic. We’re like that, too.”
– Mark Thomspon, former BBC Director General
“I do remember… the corridors of Broadcasting House were strewn with empty champagne bottles. I’ll always remember that”
– Jane Garvey, Radio 4 presenter, recalling Tony Blair’s election victory in 1997
I absorbed and expressed all the accepted BBC attitudes: hostility to, or at least suspicion of, America, monarchy, government, capitalism, empire, banking and the defence establishment, and in favour of the Health Service, state welfare, the social sciences, the environment and state education. But perhaps our most powerful antagonism was directed at advertising. This is not surprising; commercial television was the biggest threat the BBC had ever had to face.
– Sir Antony Jay, former BBC producer and creator, inter alia, of “Yes, (Prime) Minister”
“Liberal sceptical humanists tend to dominate television”.
The “default position in broadcasting” – when covering issues such as gay marriage and the Roman Catholic position on IVF – revolved around human rights, and that opponents should not be treated as “lunatics”.
“All I’m saying is, if you have at the centre of News an editor, he could explain why people in particular areas…are motivated, why they behave as they do and I think that would just increase understanding.”
– Roger Bolton, Radio 4 presenter and former head of Panorama and Nationwide
“And, in the tone of what we say about America, we have a tendency to scorn and deride. We don’t give America any kind of moral weight in our broadcasts.”
– Justin Webb (pg. 66), Today presenter and former BBC North America editor
“We need to foster peculiarity, idiosyncrasy, stubborn-mindedness, left-of-centre thinking.”
– Ben Stephenson, BBC controller of drama commissioning
Edited by Stickyfinger on Wednesday 8th February 11:05
Stickyfinger said:
boyse7en said:
Why do they insist on interviewing that tosser Nigel Farage every time there is a Brexit editorial? He is of absolutely no importance. Its just another example of the BBC pushing its right-wing agenda.
Because they (BBC/left Media) think they can make a fool of him and prove the point that everybody is a RACIST, they do not get it do they Stickyfinger said:
Because they (BBC/left Media) think they can make a fool of him and prove the point that everybody is a RACIST, they do not get it do they
Group think
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The BBC is “a publicly-funded urban organisation with an abnormally large proportion of younger people, of people in ethnic minorities and almost certainly of gay people, compared with the population at large”.
All this, he said, “creates an innate liberal bias inside the BBC”.
–Andrew Marr
“It’s a bit like walking into a Sunday meeting of the Flat Earth Society. As they discuss great issues of the day, they discuss them from the point of view that the earth is flat.
“If someone says, ‘No, no, no, the earth is round!’, they think this person is an extremist. That’s what it’s like for someone with my right-of-centre views working inside the BBC.”
– Jeff Randall, former BBC business editor
By far the most popular and widely read newspapers at the BBC are The Guardian and The Independent. Producers refer to them routinely for the line to take on running stories, and for inspiration on which items to cover. In the later stages of my career, I lost count of the number of times I asked a producer for a brief on a story, only to be handed a copy of The Guardian and told ‘it’s all in there’.
– Peter Sissons, Former BBC News and Current Affairs presenter
“In the BBC I joined 30 years ago [as a production trainee, in 1979], there was, in much of current affairs, in terms of people’s personal politics, which were quite vocal, a massive bias to the left. The organisation did struggle then with impartiality. And journalistically, staff were quite mystified by the early years of Thatcher.
“Now it is a completely different generation. There is much less overt tribalism among the young journalists who work for the BBC. It is like the New Statesman, which used to be various shades of soft and hard left and is now more technocratic. We’re like that, too.”
– Mark Thomspon, former BBC Director General
“I do remember… the corridors of Broadcasting House were strewn with empty champagne bottles. I’ll always remember that”
– Jane Garvey, Radio 4 presenter, recalling Tony Blair’s election victory in 1997
I absorbed and expressed all the accepted BBC attitudes: hostility to, or at least suspicion of, America, monarchy, government, capitalism, empire, banking and the defence establishment, and in favour of the Health Service, state welfare, the social sciences, the environment and state education. But perhaps our most powerful antagonism was directed at advertising. This is not surprising; commercial television was the biggest threat the BBC had ever had to face.
– Sir Antony Jay, former BBC producer and creator, inter alia, of “Yes, (Prime) Minister”
“Liberal sceptical humanists tend to dominate television”.
The “default position in broadcasting” – when covering issues such as gay marriage and the Roman Catholic position on IVF – revolved around human rights, and that opponents should not be treated as “lunatics”.
“All I’m saying is, if you have at the centre of News an editor, he could explain why people in particular areas…are motivated, why they behave as they do and I think that would just increase understanding.”
– Roger Bolton, Radio 4 presenter and former head of Panorama and Nationwide
“And, in the tone of what we say about America, we have a tendency to scorn and deride. We don’t give America any kind of moral weight in our broadcasts.”
– Justin Webb (pg. 66), Today presenter and former BBC North America editor
“We need to foster peculiarity, idiosyncrasy, stubborn-mindedness, left-of-centre thinking.”
– Ben Stephenson, BBC controller of drama commissioning
You've posted this cut and paste job twice now. I note that this time however you've left off the source. The source being a website that exists purely to highlight perceived bias at the BBC.Group think
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The BBC is “a publicly-funded urban organisation with an abnormally large proportion of younger people, of people in ethnic minorities and almost certainly of gay people, compared with the population at large”.
All this, he said, “creates an innate liberal bias inside the BBC”.
–Andrew Marr
“It’s a bit like walking into a Sunday meeting of the Flat Earth Society. As they discuss great issues of the day, they discuss them from the point of view that the earth is flat.
“If someone says, ‘No, no, no, the earth is round!’, they think this person is an extremist. That’s what it’s like for someone with my right-of-centre views working inside the BBC.”
– Jeff Randall, former BBC business editor
By far the most popular and widely read newspapers at the BBC are The Guardian and The Independent. Producers refer to them routinely for the line to take on running stories, and for inspiration on which items to cover. In the later stages of my career, I lost count of the number of times I asked a producer for a brief on a story, only to be handed a copy of The Guardian and told ‘it’s all in there’.
– Peter Sissons, Former BBC News and Current Affairs presenter
“In the BBC I joined 30 years ago [as a production trainee, in 1979], there was, in much of current affairs, in terms of people’s personal politics, which were quite vocal, a massive bias to the left. The organisation did struggle then with impartiality. And journalistically, staff were quite mystified by the early years of Thatcher.
“Now it is a completely different generation. There is much less overt tribalism among the young journalists who work for the BBC. It is like the New Statesman, which used to be various shades of soft and hard left and is now more technocratic. We’re like that, too.”
– Mark Thomspon, former BBC Director General
“I do remember… the corridors of Broadcasting House were strewn with empty champagne bottles. I’ll always remember that”
– Jane Garvey, Radio 4 presenter, recalling Tony Blair’s election victory in 1997
I absorbed and expressed all the accepted BBC attitudes: hostility to, or at least suspicion of, America, monarchy, government, capitalism, empire, banking and the defence establishment, and in favour of the Health Service, state welfare, the social sciences, the environment and state education. But perhaps our most powerful antagonism was directed at advertising. This is not surprising; commercial television was the biggest threat the BBC had ever had to face.
– Sir Antony Jay, former BBC producer and creator, inter alia, of “Yes, (Prime) Minister”
“Liberal sceptical humanists tend to dominate television”.
The “default position in broadcasting” – when covering issues such as gay marriage and the Roman Catholic position on IVF – revolved around human rights, and that opponents should not be treated as “lunatics”.
“All I’m saying is, if you have at the centre of News an editor, he could explain why people in particular areas…are motivated, why they behave as they do and I think that would just increase understanding.”
– Roger Bolton, Radio 4 presenter and former head of Panorama and Nationwide
“And, in the tone of what we say about America, we have a tendency to scorn and deride. We don’t give America any kind of moral weight in our broadcasts.”
– Justin Webb (pg. 66), Today presenter and former BBC North America editor
“We need to foster peculiarity, idiosyncrasy, stubborn-mindedness, left-of-centre thinking.”
– Ben Stephenson, BBC controller of drama commissioning
Edited by Stickyfinger on Wednesday 8th February 11:05
and ?....you know the source. Which is a site that does not "highlight perceived bias at the BBC", it shows it by quoting/showing it.
and ? yes, someone has done the job, do you dispute the sources material ? or are you trying to say I am hiding it for some reason ?
and ? if it makes you happy and as I have no concerns about it
https://biasedbbc.org/quotes-of-shame/
and ? yes, someone has done the job, do you dispute the sources material ? or are you trying to say I am hiding it for some reason ?
and ? if it makes you happy and as I have no concerns about it
https://biasedbbc.org/quotes-of-shame/
Edited by Stickyfinger on Wednesday 8th February 11:26
When I get into a left hand drive car, I can tell that it's left hand drive because the steering wheel is on the left. When I get into a right hand drive car, I can tell that it's right hand drive because the steering wheel is on the right. It's just the same with newspapers, radio and TV. The suggestion that the BBC is a McLaren F1 is laughable, yes, it's supposed to be an F1, but whenever I climb in, it's a Matra Bagheera.
TTwiggy said:
You've posted this cut and paste job twice now. I note that this time however you've left off the source. The source being a website that exists purely to highlight perceived bias at the BBC.
Irrelevant, if the quotes are inaccurate - present your proof.Insinuating the source is biased, trying to 'poison the well', is underhand and does not devalue the views expressed.
Mr GrimNasty said:
Irrelevant, if the quotes are inaccurate - present your proof.
Insinuating the source is biased, trying to 'poison the well', is underhand and does not devalue the views expressed.
The point of the website quoted is to outright assert that the source is biased. Insinuating the source is biased, trying to 'poison the well', is underhand and does not devalue the views expressed.
You can't have it both ways.
Balmoral said:
When I get into a left hand drive car, I can tell that it's left hand drive because the steering wheel is on the left. When I get into a right hand drive car, I can tell that it's right hand drive because the steering wheel is on the right. It's just the same with newspapers, radio and TV. The suggestion that the BBC is a McLaren F1 is laughable, yes, it's supposed to be an F1, but whenever I climb in, it's a Matra Bagheera.
I think you've won the internet for tonight. Matra Bagheera & the BBC. So obviously correct, so fundamentally flawed, but so petrolhead. 
As the pips sounded at 0700 on the Today Programme as I drove out of my village this am, I invented a new game to blunt my BBC ennui: BBC headline bingo.
Try and guess the first three topics in the news that the Beeb will cover in a suitably negative way.
I went with Donald Trump, the NHS and Brexit.
It was Donald Trump, the NHS and private schools.
A creditable 2/3!
Try and guess the first three topics in the news that the Beeb will cover in a suitably negative way.
I went with Donald Trump, the NHS and Brexit.
It was Donald Trump, the NHS and private schools.
A creditable 2/3!
I watched a very interesting show last night on BBC, that came across as unbiased & balanced After Brexit: The Battle for Europe http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b08dx4lz/this...Katya Adler came across as intelligent, spoke at least 3 different languages, has very nice legs & a penchant for leather jackets & heels
I'm guessing this is a one-off, as the BBC website homepage is straight back with a non-news day, featuring the NHS doom, Trump, a German Bank/anti-Brexit article by Kammal Ahmed (surprise surprise....) & all the usual gloom. Even the weather forecast is crap....
Biker 1 said:
I watched a very interesting show last night on BBC, that came across as unbiased & balanced After Brexit: The Battle for Europe http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b08dx4lz/this...Katya Adler came across as intelligent, spoke at least 3 different languages, has very nice legs & a penchant for leather jackets & heels
The BBC MonoThinkers must of made an error sending her to meet real people
Maybe the destruction the EU has caused to their holiday resorts (aka villas) in Tuscany etal will open their eyes ?
Edited by Stickyfinger on Friday 10th February 09:27
Stickyfinger said:
Colonial said:
The point of the website quoted is to outright assert that the source is biased.
You can't have it both ways.
And it does, primarily with verbatim quotes from...You can't have it both ways.
Are they lies ? is it a fake site ?
TTwiggy said:
Stickyfinger said:
Colonial said:
The point of the website quoted is to outright assert that the source is biased.
You can't have it both ways.
And it does, primarily with verbatim quotes from...You can't have it both ways.
Are they lies ? is it a fake site ?
The few I have checked are true to the quotes.
wiggle more: or just accept the obvious is true ?
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