Will you continue to wear a mask in public after Jan 27th?
Poll: Will you continue to wear a mask in public after Jan 27th?
Total Members Polled: 684
Discussion
21TonyK said:
No, you just don't like hearing things that don;t fit with your limited perspective on things.
Oh well. No skin off my nose.
Yet again, no actual debate. Oh well. No skin off my nose.
At least your mate TDK makes an effort to come up with numbers, even if they are nonsense (his 'facts' are being politely taken apart yet again in the 'Is the cure worse than the disease' thread right now). He's a True Believer.
Ari said:
Yet again, no actual debate.
Debate what? I asked a queston follwed by a factual statement. All I got then was the normal abusive comments based on unrelated assumptions that fit the posters views.Nothing to do with what I said at all, but then that does seem to be the basic idea here. Don't actually read what is said, just keep posting things that help justify your view.
Anyway... busy Morrisons this morning, i'd guess 95+% masked.
21TonyK said:
Debate what? I asked a queston follwed by a factual statement. All I got then was the normal abusive comments based on unrelated assumptions that fit the posters views.
Nothing to do with what I said at all, but then that does seem to be the basic idea here. Don't actually read what is said, just keep posting things that help justify your view.
Anyway... busy Morrisons this morning, i'd guess 95+% masked.
Good to hear that generally people are being sensible. Case rate still over 900 per 100,000 where I am in the NW. Nothing to do with what I said at all, but then that does seem to be the basic idea here. Don't actually read what is said, just keep posting things that help justify your view.
Anyway... busy Morrisons this morning, i'd guess 95+% masked.
S600BSB said:
21TonyK said:
Debate what? I asked a queston follwed by a factual statement. All I got then was the normal abusive comments based on unrelated assumptions that fit the posters views.
Nothing to do with what I said at all, but then that does seem to be the basic idea here. Don't actually read what is said, just keep posting things that help justify your view.
Anyway... busy Morrisons this morning, i'd guess 95+% masked.
Good to hear that generally people are being sensible. Case rate still over 900 per 100,000 where I am in the NW. Nothing to do with what I said at all, but then that does seem to be the basic idea here. Don't actually read what is said, just keep posting things that help justify your view.
Anyway... busy Morrisons this morning, i'd guess 95+% masked.
dxg said:
Given that Omicron has a virility around the same as a bad cold, I often wonder what the comparative figures would be for "having a cold." And, yes, I know there's no such thing as the common cold, but I do suspect that the "common cold" is more widespread yet we don't take the same precautions.
You make a fair point. But I don't want Omi or a bad cold thanks very much - stop me working! Taking a few sensible precautions in crowded indoor spaces seems a small price to pay tbh. 21TonyK said:
Debate what? I asked a queston follwed by a factual statement. All I got then was the normal abusive comments based on unrelated assumptions that fit the posters views.
The problem with forums is that it's all written down, so it's easy to see what you said, which was this:21TonyK said:
Well there you go. Two ill informed, overly vocal posters spouting off about something they have no knowledge of.
Well done.
Well done.
S600BSB said:
dxg said:
Given that Omicron has a virility around the same as a bad cold, I often wonder what the comparative figures would be for "having a cold." And, yes, I know there's no such thing as the common cold, but I do suspect that the "common cold" is more widespread yet we don't take the same precautions.
You make a fair point. But I don't want Omi or a bad cold thanks very much - stop me working! Taking a few sensible precautions in crowded indoor spaces seems a small price to pay tbh. They don't work. The data on that is in, and it's quite clear.
Ari said:
21TonyK said:
Debate what? I asked a queston follwed by a factual statement. All I got then was the normal abusive comments based on unrelated assumptions that fit the posters views.
The problem with forums is that it's all written down, so it's easy to see what you said, which was this:21TonyK said:
Well there you go. Two ill informed, overly vocal posters spouting off about something they have no knowledge of.
Well done.
Well done.
Ari said:
S600BSB said:
dxg said:
Given that Omicron has a virility around the same as a bad cold, I often wonder what the comparative figures would be for "having a cold." And, yes, I know there's no such thing as the common cold, but I do suspect that the "common cold" is more widespread yet we don't take the same precautions.
You make a fair point. But I don't want Omi or a bad cold thanks very much - stop me working! Taking a few sensible precautions in crowded indoor spaces seems a small price to pay tbh. They don't work. The data on that is in, and it's quite clear.
Anyway, I am happy to do my bit to protect people from the risk I might be positive and hope others will do the same for me. My experience is that most people are sensible and will think about others when in crowded indoor spaces. Obviously different outside etc.
I have managed to avoid Covid so far and won't change until I consider the risk to be low enough to do so. Let's hope that is soon as I actually hate wearing the things!
S600BSB said:
Respect your right to your own opinion mate, but I think that is rubbish - particularly in the case of Omicron which seems to transmit more via aerosol than droplet.
Anyway, I am happy to do my bit to protect people from the risk I might be positive and hope others will do the same for me. My experience is that most people are sensible and will think about others when in crowded indoor spaces. Obviously different outside etc.
I have managed to avoid Covid so far and won't change until I consider the risk to be low enough to do so. Let's hope that is soon as I actually hate wearing the things!
You have your view which is fine and keep on wearing your mask for as long as you want to.Anyway, I am happy to do my bit to protect people from the risk I might be positive and hope others will do the same for me. My experience is that most people are sensible and will think about others when in crowded indoor spaces. Obviously different outside etc.
I have managed to avoid Covid so far and won't change until I consider the risk to be low enough to do so. Let's hope that is soon as I actually hate wearing the things!
Just one question, were you as concerned in the past with regard to going out with possibly flu or a cold? Because flu can be bad for some vulnerable people and the flu vaccine is not 100% effective either.
Boringvolvodriver said:
S600BSB said:
Respect your right to your own opinion mate, but I think that is rubbish - particularly in the case of Omicron which seems to transmit more via aerosol than droplet.
Anyway, I am happy to do my bit to protect people from the risk I might be positive and hope others will do the same for me. My experience is that most people are sensible and will think about others when in crowded indoor spaces. Obviously different outside etc.
I have managed to avoid Covid so far and won't change until I consider the risk to be low enough to do so. Let's hope that is soon as I actually hate wearing the things!
You have your view which is fine and keep on wearing your mask for as long as you want to.Anyway, I am happy to do my bit to protect people from the risk I might be positive and hope others will do the same for me. My experience is that most people are sensible and will think about others when in crowded indoor spaces. Obviously different outside etc.
I have managed to avoid Covid so far and won't change until I consider the risk to be low enough to do so. Let's hope that is soon as I actually hate wearing the things!
Just one question, were you as concerned in the past with regard to going out with possibly flu or a cold? Because flu can be bad for some vulnerable people and the flu vaccine is not 100% effective either.
S600BSB said:
Certainly always get a flu jab! Not in a vulnerable group so pay. As you say, the flu vaccine seems more of a lottery and sometimes doesn't work against whatever strain we get. I hope that going forward everyone will be a bit more conscious of personal hygiene and space tha in the past.
Agreed - I think some long term good will come from this in many ways. Tony:
Two - in this case correct, though there are plenty
ill informed - correct
overly vocal posters - certainly
spouting off about something they have no knowledge of - yep!
S600BSB said:
Certainly always get a flu jab! Not in a vulnerable group so pay. As you say, the flu vaccine seems more of a lottery and sometimes doesn't work against whatever strain we get. I hope that going forward everyone will be a bit more conscious of personal hygiene and space tha in the past.
I would hope that too. The days of going to work full of cold should change.However, you haven’t really answered my question as to why you feel you need to wear a mask now but never would have worn one in the past for what may be arguably a similar risk.
Of course, the answer is that you weren’t told to and weren’t aware of the potential risks and you have bought into the messaging that has been put out there.
Just been talking to a NHS nurse and paramedic who both say that the masks worn currently have little or no effect.
The Milgrim experiment is working very well in a real life situation in my opinion
Boringvolvodriver said:
I would hope that too. The days of going to work full of cold should change.
However, you haven’t really answered my question as to why you feel you need to wear a mask now but never would have worn one in the past for what may be arguably a similar risk.
Of course, the answer is that you weren’t told to and weren’t aware of the potential risks and you have bought into the messaging that has been put out there.
Just been talking to a NHS nurse and paramedic who both say that the masks worn currently have little or no effect.
The Milgrim experiment is working very well in a real life situation in my opinion
Similarly it could be argued you have "bought into the messaging" that masks do nothing but are some sort of evil 5G subversive lizard plan. It's fake news However, you haven’t really answered my question as to why you feel you need to wear a mask now but never would have worn one in the past for what may be arguably a similar risk.
Of course, the answer is that you weren’t told to and weren’t aware of the potential risks and you have bought into the messaging that has been put out there.
Just been talking to a NHS nurse and paramedic who both say that the masks worn currently have little or no effect.
The Milgrim experiment is working very well in a real life situation in my opinion
Perhaps you think we have all learned nothing since 2019 and everything should back exactly how it was?
Boringvolvodriver said:
S600BSB said:
Certainly always get a flu jab! Not in a vulnerable group so pay. As you say, the flu vaccine seems more of a lottery and sometimes doesn't work against whatever strain we get. I hope that going forward everyone will be a bit more conscious of personal hygiene and space tha in the past.
I would hope that too. The days of going to work full of cold should change.However, you haven’t really answered my question as to why you feel you need to wear a mask now but never would have worn one in the past for what may be arguably a similar risk.
Of course, the answer is that you weren’t told to and weren’t aware of the potential risks and you have bought into the messaging that has been put out there.
Just been talking to a NHS nurse and paramedic who both say that the masks worn currently have little or no effect.
The Milgrim experiment is working very well in a real life situation in my opinion
Anyway, not interested in a rant about the benefits of mask wearing or not. Life is too short and because I take sensible precaution to protect both my health, and that of others who come into contact with me, I live mine to the full!
S600BSB said:
Respect your right to your own opinion mate, but I think that is rubbish - particularly in the case of Omicron which seems to transmit more via aerosol than droplet.
Anyway, I am happy to do my bit to protect people from the risk I might be positive and hope others will do the same for me. My experience is that most people are sensible and will think about others when in crowded indoor spaces. Obviously different outside etc.
I have managed to avoid Covid so far and won't change until I consider the risk to be low enough to do so. Let's hope that is soon as I actually hate wearing the things!
It's not 'an opinion'.Anyway, I am happy to do my bit to protect people from the risk I might be positive and hope others will do the same for me. My experience is that most people are sensible and will think about others when in crowded indoor spaces. Obviously different outside etc.
I have managed to avoid Covid so far and won't change until I consider the risk to be low enough to do so. Let's hope that is soon as I actually hate wearing the things!
We brought in a mask mandate for 65 million people in the UK and it made no difference!
A year later we dropped the mandate for 50 million of them and kept it for the others. The 50 million went on to have a lower infection rate per 100,000 than the 65 million!
That's what happened! Those are facts, not opinions.
Even a government study set up specifically to justify forcing face masks on school children failed to do so. And you know what? They carried on making kids wear them in school anyway, which just proves that this was never about whether they work or not, it was all just all theatre.
If you hate wearing the things, just stop. It will make no difference.
Ari said:
It's not 'an opinion'.
We brought in a mask mandate for 65 million people in the UK and it made no difference!
A year later we dropped the mandate for 50 million of them and kept it for the others. The 50 million went on to have a lower infection rate per 100,000 than the 65 million!
That's what happened! Those are facts, not opinions.
Even a government study set up specifically to justify forcing face masks on school children failed to do so. And you know what? They carried on making kids wear them in school anyway, which just proves that this was never about whether they work or not, it was all just all theatre.
If you hate wearing the things, just stop. It will make no difference.
It is just an opinion, and in many peoples views - including the scientific community - a completely erroneous and misleading one. We brought in a mask mandate for 65 million people in the UK and it made no difference!
A year later we dropped the mandate for 50 million of them and kept it for the others. The 50 million went on to have a lower infection rate per 100,000 than the 65 million!
That's what happened! Those are facts, not opinions.
Even a government study set up specifically to justify forcing face masks on school children failed to do so. And you know what? They carried on making kids wear them in school anyway, which just proves that this was never about whether they work or not, it was all just all theatre.
If you hate wearing the things, just stop. It will make no difference.
There are people on youtube etc.. making $1000s/month from the caper - that will gladly tell you they don't work, but their motives should be all too apparent.
g3org3y said:
Soft play centre this morning - many parents and grandparents in attendance. Not a mask in sight.
Will nobody think of the children!Similar at our indoor courts / trampoline / gymnastics / soft play emporium. A handful of parents/children thereof with masks. Hundreds without.
S600BSB said:
You shouldn't assume either my answer to your question or that I haven't worn a mask previously based on my assessment of risk.
Anyway, not interested in a rant about the benefits of mask wearing or not. Life is too short and because I take sensible precaution to protect both my health, and that of others who come into contact with me, I live mine to the full!
Agree with your last paragraph- I too am living my life to the full and also take sensible precautions to protect my health and that of others.Anyway, not interested in a rant about the benefits of mask wearing or not. Life is too short and because I take sensible precaution to protect both my health, and that of others who come into contact with me, I live mine to the full!
Anyway back out into the sun for me now!
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