Boris Johnson- Prime Minister (Vol. 7)

[Tuna]

The Spruce Goose said:

turbobloke said:

According to PHE it's 60% more transmissible than the alpha strain, with single dose vaccine recipients less protected. If PHE has got it wrong where's the alternative data coming from?

is this the same as when he said the new stain last tear was 70% more infectious yet was actually found to be 6%.

To be fair, if they're going to get things wrong, I'd much rather it were that way round.

I'm ambivalent on the lockdown measures. Clearly we want to open up as early as we can, but infection numbers look exactly like the beginning of the largest wave last year. It looks pretty certain that the link to hospitalisation is broken by the vaccination programme, but just when we finally appear to have the upper hand, is that something you'd bet the country on? This is something that's very easy to have an opinion on in hindsight and from the comfort of your armchair...

[APontus]

Tuna said:

To be fair, if they're going to get things wrong, I'd much rather it were that way round.

I'm ambivalent on the lockdown measures. Clearly we want to open up as early as we can, but infection numbers look exactly like the beginning of the largest wave last year. It looks pretty certain that the link to hospitalisation is broken by the vaccination programme, but just when we finally appear to have the upper hand, is that something you'd bet the country on? This is something that's very easy to have an opinion on in hindsight and from the comfort of your armchair...

Take a look around you at all the activity.

The roads are busier now than before the virus.

What practical difference to transmission does this continued 'lockdown' make? It's deckchairs on the Titanic in terms of transmission, but high impact in terms of business and normal life. It's incompetent.

Take a look at some the the States in the US. Proper libertarian free marketeers allowing people to make their own judgments and no worse off because of it.

We have a pretend Tory who flip flops like an electricuted trout beached on a bouncy castle because he's desperate to be popular and has now dug his grave with the sofa seekers.

[anonymous-user]

Tuna said:

To be fair, if they're going to get things wrong, I'd much rather it were that way round.
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Wrong? he always knew the true figure....

[JagLover]

APontus said:

We're dragging off topic, however isn't it relatively common/expected that over time a virus can become more transmissible (and typically less lethal)?

That is what we are often told.

Seems to fit past Coronaviruses as well, as it is thought highly likely that the last Coronavirus that emerged in 1889/90 killed a million people before it settled down and became just another of the viruses that cause the "common cold".

[Tuna]

..and Nicola "lead from the front" Sturgeon has just followed Boris to delay full easing of lockdown. Grrr.. Westminster!

[Unknown_User]

Tuna said:

..and Nicola "lead from the front" Sturgeon has just followed Boris to delay full easing of lockdown. Grrr.. Westminster!

[Abdul Abulbul Amir]

Tuna said:

..and Nicola "lead from the front" Sturgeon has just followed Boris to delay full easing of lockdown. Grrr.. Westminster!

She is totally pathetic.

[APontus]

It would have been sensible, albeit politically difficult, for the UK to have coordinated, instead of the follow-my-leader merry-go-round.

[ddom]

Oh dear Boris.

[robemcdonald]

I don’t see how this can possibly be Boris’s fault.

How could he have possible known a health secretary he identified as “totally fking hopeless” on 27 March 2020 go on to fail to deliver on PPE and be totally useless.

How can we trust a single thing Dominic Cummings says. The man has never said anything true in his entire life…apart from all the stuff on Brexit or indeed anything I might agree with.

Let’s not forget Jeremy Corbyn wanted to send all our PPE abroad to Nigerian lesbians.

Etc..

Anyway. Forwards to victory.

[APontus]

Boris has full confidence in a colleague he's repeatedly breasted for being useless. The same colleague whose brief includes protecting the health needs of all of us.

Is it good leadership to know your subordinate is useless, in charge of a vital function, yet keep him in position?

[anonymous-user]

APontus said:

Boris has full confidence in a colleague he's repeatedly breasted for being useless. The same colleague whose brief includes protecting the health needs of all of us.

Is it good leadership to know your subordinate is useless, in charge of a vital function, yet keep him in position?

not useless compared to Boris.

Who needs EastEnders this st gets better everyday, the sad bit is thousands have died due to their sheer incompetence. The whole sordid team needs to FRO.

[pti]

robemcdonald said:

I don’t see how this can possibly be Boris’s fault.

How could he have possible known a health secretary he identified as “totally fking hopeless” on 27 March 2020 go on to fail to deliver on PPE and be totally useless.

How can we trust a single thing Dominic Cummings says. The man has never said anything true in his entire life…apart from all the stuff on Brexit or indeed anything I might agree with.

Let’s not forget Jeremy Corbyn wanted to send all our PPE abroad to Nigerian lesbians.

Etc..

Anyway. Forwards to victory.

I'm enjoying these.

[citizensm1th]

robemcdonald said:

I don’t see how this can possibly be Boris’s fault.

How could he have possible known a health secretary he identified as “totally fking hopeless” on 27 March 2020 go on to fail to deliver on PPE and be totally useless.

How can we trust a single thing Dominic Cummings says. The man has never said anything true in his entire life…apart from all the stuff on Brexit or indeed anything I might agree with.

Let’s not forget Jeremy Corbyn wanted to send all our PPE abroad to Nigerian lesbians.

Etc..

Anyway. Forwards to victory.

My grandmother never fought in two world wars.to think we have to put up with this st

[turbobloke]

pti said:

robemcdonald said:

I don’t see how this can possibly be Boris’s fault.

How could he have possible known a health secretary he identified as “totally fking hopeless” on 27 March 2020 go on to fail to deliver on PPE and be totally useless.

How can we trust a single thing Dominic Cummings says. The man has never said anything true in his entire life…apart from all the stuff on Brexit or indeed anything I might agree with.

Let’s not forget Jeremy Corbyn wanted to send all our PPE abroad to Nigerian lesbians.

Etc..

Anyway. Forwards to victory.

I'm enjoying these.

If only Rishi Sunak was on PH. Think of all that enjoyment.

[anonymous-user]

APontus said:

Boris has full confidence in a colleague he's repeatedly breasted for being useless. The same colleague whose brief includes protecting the health needs of all of us.

Is it good leadership to know your subordinate is useless, in charge of a vital function, yet keep him in position?

Now I know he's one for the ladies, but Hancock is pushing it too far

[APontus]

I'm not sure whether being 'breasted' was a Bullingdon right of passage or an autocorrect of 'berated'? Either way, if Cummings is telling the truth, and I have no reason to disbelieve him, neither Boris nor Hancock have any place in government. On the face of it they're responsible for thousands of deaths.

[anonymous-user]

Yes, yes Mr 1 Month.

Not had a previous account have you?

[APontus]

The people of Amersham don't seem too keen on Boris.

[JagLover]

Tories advance in working class areas and retreat in Middle class ones.

Maybe the size of the swing here was partly due to HS2. I would like to think it was also partly a reaction against lockdown but, if the polling is accurate, that is still popular.