Jeremy Corbyn (Vol. 3)

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The Surveyor

7,578 posts

239 months

Friday 12th April 2019
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Piha said:
I expect Jeremy has upholding UK law as the main concern ……. .
We have an extradition agreement with the US don't we ?

Piha

7,150 posts

94 months

Friday 12th April 2019
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The Surveyor said:
We have an extradition agreement with the US don't we ?
Doesn't that extradition agreement state something about Human Right and the death penalty? I understand Labour have raised Human Rights questions regarding Julians impending extradition.

If Labour are correct then good on them, after all don't you think Human Rights are kind of important?

biggbn

23,858 posts

222 months

Friday 12th April 2019
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Didn't Assange show footage of USA chopper firing on journalists and civilians?

gazza285

9,850 posts

210 months

Friday 12th April 2019
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Henners said:
Brave of Jezza to put his back bencher hat on and state opinions about the Assange situation.
Defending a suspected rapist, let’s not forget that is why Assange ran away.

Henners

12,231 posts

196 months

Friday 12th April 2019
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gazza285 said:
Henners said:
Brave of Jezza to put his back bencher hat on and state opinions about the Assange situation.
Defending a suspected rapist, let’s not forget that is why Assange ran away.
Yup, people seem to ignore this.

The Surveyor

7,578 posts

239 months

Friday 12th April 2019
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Piha said:
The Surveyor said:
We have an extradition agreement with the US don't we ?
Doesn't that extradition agreement state something about Human Right and the death penalty? I understand Labour have raised Human Rights questions regarding Julians impending extradition.

If Labour are correct then good on them, after all don't you think Human Rights are kind of important?
He's facing a maximum 5 year term in the US if he's guilty. He's not facing extradition to some murderous dictatorship, the reason we have an extradition agreement with the US is because we mutually respect each countries judicial system, it works both ways and unless there is a reason to mis-trust their system we should support the existing agreement.

Human Rights are indeed important, but that argument is not relevant in this situation.

Piha

7,150 posts

94 months

Friday 12th April 2019
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The Surveyor said:
He's facing a maximum 5 year term in the US if he's guilty. He's not facing extradition to some murderous dictatorship, the reason we have an extradition agreement with the US is because we mutually respect each countries judicial system, it works both ways and unless there is a reason to mis-trust their system we should support the existing agreement.

Human Rights are indeed important, but that argument is not relevant in this situation.
Does that respect extend to the death penalty?

biggbn

23,858 posts

222 months

Friday 12th April 2019
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gazza285 said:
Defending a suspected rapist, let’s not forget that is why Assange ran away.
Fair point.

Henners

12,231 posts

196 months

Friday 12th April 2019
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Piha said:
The Surveyor said:
He's facing a maximum 5 year term in the US if he's guilty. He's not facing extradition to some murderous dictatorship, the reason we have an extradition agreement with the US is because we mutually respect each countries judicial system, it works both ways and unless there is a reason to mis-trust their system we should support the existing agreement.

Human Rights are indeed important, but that argument is not relevant in this situation.
Does that respect extend to the death penalty?
Is it relevant in the JA case?

Piha

7,150 posts

94 months

Friday 12th April 2019
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biggbn said:
gazza285 said:
Defending a suspected rapist, let’s not forget that is why Assange ran away.
Fair point.
Wasn't the charge of rape from Sweden? If so, send Julian to Sweden or doesn't Sweden have a functioning judiciary?

Henners

12,231 posts

196 months

Friday 12th April 2019
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Piha said:
biggbn said:
gazza285 said:
Defending a suspected rapist, let’s not forget that is why Assange ran away.
Fair point.
Wasn't the charge of rape from Sweden? If so, send Julian to Sweden or doesn't Sweden have a functioning judiciary?
The charge which was dropped....


Anyway, here's our glorious comrade.


Mort7

1,487 posts

110 months

Friday 12th April 2019
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Looks like a cross between Julian Assange and Jimmy Savile.

Henners

12,231 posts

196 months

Friday 12th April 2019
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Mort7 said:
Looks like a cross between Julian Assange and Jimmy Savile.
I don't know which one of them will be more insulted hehe

anonymous-user

56 months

Friday 12th April 2019
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As soon as I saw he had commentated I just knew what it would be
It is entirely typical of the man. he has his own agenda to pursue. God help foreign affairs if he gets into power

jakesmith

9,461 posts

173 months

Friday 12th April 2019
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biggbn said:
Didn't Assange show footage of USA chopper firing on journalists and civilians?
Yes. Let’s not worry about the rapes then! Or the releasing of goodness knows what other classified information and what that may have lead to.

He is a nasty vindictive egoist who exhausted every route of the law to evade taking responsibility for the laws he broke, then when that was all used up he hid like a worm and didn’t even have the decency to treat his hosts with some respect for their troubles.

Deserves everything he gets in my opinion

The Surveyor

7,578 posts

239 months

Friday 12th April 2019
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jakesmith said:
biggbn said:
Didn't Assange show footage of USA chopper firing on journalists and civilians?
Yes. Let’s not worry about the rapes then! Or the releasing of goodness knows what other classified information and what that may have lead to.

He is a nasty vindictive egoist who exhausted every route of the law to evade taking responsibility for the laws he broke, then when that was all used up he hid like a worm and didn’t even have the decency to treat his hosts with some respect for their troubles.

Deserves everything he gets in my opinion
yes

irocfan

40,801 posts

192 months

Friday 12th April 2019
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Piha said:
biggbn said:
gazza285 said:
Defending a suspected rapist, let’s not forget that is why Assange ran away.
Fair point.
Wasn't the charge of rape from Sweden? If so, send Julian to Sweden or doesn't Sweden have a functioning judiciary?
IIRC Sweden has an extradition treaty with the US and so he didn't want to be held there. The rape issue was not continued with (IIRC) because it became too stressful for the alleged victims. He then went on to treat his hosts like dirt...

Whichever way you push it JA is not an innocent party.

gazza285

9,850 posts

210 months

Friday 12th April 2019
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Henners said:
Piha said:
biggbn said:
gazza285 said:
Defending a suspected rapist, let’s not forget that is why Assange ran away.
Fair point.
Wasn't the charge of rape from Sweden? If so, send Julian to Sweden or doesn't Sweden have a functioning judiciary?
The charge which was dropped....
A case that is now under review.

He hid in the Ecuadorean embassy to evade being extradited to Sweden, where he has been accused of rape and molestation, he is now charged in the U.K. with failure to surrender to his bail conditions

Henners

12,231 posts

196 months

Friday 12th April 2019
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gazza285 said:
Henners said:
Piha said:
biggbn said:
gazza285 said:
Defending a suspected rapist, let’s not forget that is why Assange ran away.
Fair point.
Wasn't the charge of rape from Sweden? If so, send Julian to Sweden or doesn't Sweden have a functioning judiciary?
The charge which was dropped....
A case that is now under review.

He hid in the Ecuadorean embassy to evade being extradited to Sweden, where he has been accused of rape and molestation, he is now charged in the U.K. with failure to surrender to his bail conditions
I know, Piha was talking as at yeeeears ago.

anonymous-user

56 months

Friday 12th April 2019
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OH What a surprise (not)
Diane Abbot has waded in now. Now I know that some posters get ever ever so upset when she is mentioned here. Indeed one sterling white knight chap got her thread removed. So before you say it you can call me as racist and gammon as you like for bringing her up
But true to form she who has been silent has now piped up defending assange
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