How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 5)

[Ridgemont]

Ghibli said:

Ridgemont said:

Ghibli said:

And your life filled with counting how many posts I have made.

No comment on how it's going to work with an open border and not being a member of the EU.

PH have all the answers.

That took me all of 2 and a half minutes
And the issue of open borders and not being a member of the EU has been answered. Or maybe not. The will to live has been extinguished.

Another one who won't or can't answer the question.

What do you think of the channel or the post office for the answers that have been suggested.

Edited by Ghibli on Wednesday 14th November 00:36

You appear to have made a grave error. You actually think I give a tupenny fk about what appears to have occupied you all evening. I don’t.
I have spent a passing 10 minutes or so on checking how much you post, typing my earlier post, reading your response and now typing this. 10 minutes more I will not be spending.
I am pretty sure that bloviating for 10 minutes more would be a waste of my time. I am frankly dumbfounded you continue as you do.
Raise your head and consider bigger wider issues if you must spend 9 hours of your life on a car forum discussing Brexit. Last comment on it however: I suspect with the ‘Channel or Post Office’ line you are properly on troll manoeuvres.

[Vanden Saab]

Ghibli said:

gooner1 said:

Ghibli said:

Another one who won't or can't answer the question.

What do you think of the channel or the post office for the answers that have been suggested.

Edited by Ghibli on Wednesday 14th November 00:36

May I suggest you drop that silly affectation of not putting a question mark when you
ask someone a question. You may find it increases your chances of getting a reply.
HTH.

They won't answer the question. They are to busy disagreeing with someone who voted remain to actually think about the border or non border and how it will work in reality.

Several people with actual experience of cross-border trade have answered the question, that you do not understand the answer and keep asking more and more bizarre variants of the same question has been a source of much mirth all evening .

[gooner1]

Ghibli said:

They won't answer the question. They are to busy disagreeing with someone who voted remain to actually think about the border or non border and how it will work in reality.

Can you tell me how the border or non border will work in reality?

[B'stard Child]

gooner1 said:

Ghibli said:

They won't answer the question. They are to busy disagreeing with someone who voted remain to actually think about the border or non border and how it will work in reality.

Can you tell me how the border or non border will work in reality?

Please don't feed

[anonymous-user]

Vanden Saab said:

Several people with actual experience of cross-border trade have answered the question, that you do not understand the answer and keep asking more and more bizarre variants of the same question has been a source of much mirth all evening .

Maybe that's because I am not talking about cross border trade.

The news only came out today and apparently PH team leave have all the answers.

I would ask you to answer the question but you clearly don't even know what it is.

[PurpleMoonlight]

Some details here.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/nov/13/c...

Looks a lot like Chequers as the backstop.

[JagLover]

PurpleMoonlight said:

Some details here.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/nov/13/c...

Looks a lot like Chequers as the backstop.

To me the problem with the referendum is that it did not deliver a government to carry out its wishes. Which is why you end up with someone like May in charge who talks the talk but is a traitor to her country and people.

What I most hope for is the ERG to split off to form another party. The result would almost certainly be a Corbyn government but at least I would be able to put my x besides someone who genuinely wants to govern in the interests of the people.

[JagLover]

and they will be forced to share the full legal advice so they wont be able to disguise their capitulation.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/bre...

[tangerine_sedge]

JagLover said:

To me the problem with the referendum is that it did not deliver a government to carry out its wishes. Which is why you end up with someone like May in charge who talks the talk but is a traitor to her country and people.

If only there had been a Tory leadership battle after DC resigned. That would have been a chance for one of the (many) vocal brexiteers to lead the country.

For some reason, they chose not to be in the driving seat for the actual hard work...

[p1stonhead]

2pm it is then.

Cue every brexiter in the country whining like a moron after the meeting because it’s not what they wanted from their individual version of brexit that no one knew about

[JagLover]

tangerine_sedge said:

If only there had been a Tory leadership battle after DC resigned. That would have been a chance for one of the (many) vocal brexiteers to lead the country.

For some reason, they chose not to be in the driving seat for the actual hard work...

Is this Remainer alternate reality time again?

There was a leadership battle and the Tory MPs voted for May, and they will reap what they have sown.

[PurpleMoonlight]

JagLover said:

To me the problem with the referendum is that it did not deliver a government to carry out its wishes. Which is why you end up with someone like May in charge who talks the talk but is a traitor to her country and people.

What I most hope for is the ERG to split off to form another party. The result would almost certainly be a Corbyn government but at least I would be able to put my x besides someone who genuinely wants to govern in the interests of the people.

Traitor! Seriously?

You may not like the proposed future relationship with the EU but traitor is ridiculous. The UK is leaving the EU, there is nothing to suggest otherwise.

[JagLover]

PurpleMoonlight said:

Traitor! Seriously?

You may not like the proposed future relationship with the EU but traitor is ridiculous. The UK is leaving the EU, there is nothing to suggest otherwise.

Yes seriously

Once the legal advice has been released I am confident that there is going to be no realistic way out of the customs union. How else would you describe someone who actively goes against the national interest of their own country and would see it bound in vassalage?.

[HoHoHo]

p1stonhead said:

2pm it is then.

Cue every brexiter in the country whining like a moron after the meeting because it’s not what they wanted from their individual version of brexit that no one knew about

You mean some of the very same people who voted in the Tory government knowing the leader was a remainer....

Shouty aggressive Brexiteers blaming someone they voted for.....you couldn’t make it up.

I hope they don’t get what they want, toys and prams will be order of the day.

Remember, “a no deal is better than a bad deal and she believes this is a good deal”

Suck it up Brexiteers.

[mx5nut]

steve_k said:

mx5nut said:

Brexiters are waking up to the fact that Brexit puts us in a worse position than EU membership. Bless.

Did you read the title to your own link it says the deal not brexit?

The deal is Brexit, despite the kicking and screaming from people who didn't really know what they were voting for.

[mx5nut]

Why can't Brexiters get behind May's deal and try to make a success of it instead of talking our democratically elected government down? We survived two world wars, we can survive this. We just need a bit more positive thinking instead of the Brexiter doom and gloom!

[Gary C]

JagLover said:

tangerine_sedge said:

If only there had been a Tory leadership battle after DC resigned. That would have been a chance for one of the (many) vocal brexiteers to lead the country.

For some reason, they chose not to be in the driving seat for the actual hard work...

Is this Remainer alternate reality time again?

There was a leadership battle and the Tory MPs voted for May, and they will reap what they have sown.

Where's the parrot ?

[mx5nut]

JagLover said:

PurpleMoonlight said:

Traitor! Seriously?

You may not like the proposed future relationship with the EU but traitor is ridiculous. The UK is leaving the EU, there is nothing to suggest otherwise.

Yes seriously

Once the legal advice has been released I am confident that there is going to be no realistic way out of the customs union. How else would you describe someone who actively goes against the national interest of their own country and would see it bound in vassalage?.

Vassalage is the new "Sovereignty" in terms of buzzwords angry Brexiters parrot without understanding them.

[PurpleMoonlight]

JagLover said:

Yes seriously

Once the legal advice has been released I am confident that there is going to be no realistic way out of the customs union. How else would you describe someone who actively goes against the national interest of their own country and would see it bound in vassalage?.

As far as I can see it's not 'the' customs union it is a new UK:EU customs union and there is a mechanism to terminate it.

[mx5nut]

JagLover said:

tangerine_sedge said:

If only there had been a Tory leadership battle after DC resigned. That would have been a chance for one of the (many) vocal brexiteers to lead the country.

For some reason, they chose not to be in the driving seat for the actual hard work...

Is this Remainer alternate reality time again?

There was a leadership battle and the Tory MPs voted for May

Because all those brave Brexiters ran a mile when it looked like they might actually have to take some responsibility for implementing it.