I Am Not Charlie Hebdo

[Blib]

XJ Flyer said:

Blib said:

missingbadly999 said:

Blib said:

It is not a stupid response. Tell me in plain English how you would differentiate between "good" Muslims and "bad" ones? Will it be a written test? Whether they look shifty to you? Whether they attend a mosque? How will you know if someone is lying to you?

Any answers?

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Please don't ever get in the position of having to make any important decisions. Or are you 10 years old?

I'll take that as you having no idea how you would go about deporting 'undesirables'.

Exactly the same way that any developed country like Canada goes about deporting us if we lose our right of residency there for whatever reason.In this case that would obviously include change in definition of nationality to jus sanguinis on grounds of national security.

Scary.

So, how many? fifty thousand? Half a million? Two million? Where to? What about second and third generation Muslims?

[plasticpig]

missingbadly999 said:

So you have no ideas or proposals at all then. Just paper thin criticisms of any valid ideas made by others.
That's pathetic and you should get off this forum and go back to sleep.

It's a far more realistic prospect then getting rid of all the Muslims from the UK. King Edward I had difficulty in getting rid of 2000 Jews from the UK because some of them had converted to Christianity (Google Edict Of Expulsion). Islam makes specific provision for Muslims pretending to be of other faiths. It's allowed if they are being persecuted.

It's not paper thin criticism. The logistics alone of getting rid of 2.5 million people; many of who you would have to expel by force is pretty much impossible. Why offer solutions that are impossible to implement?

[XJ Flyer]

Blib said:

XJ Flyer said:

Blib said:

missingbadly999 said:

Blib said:

It is not a stupid response. Tell me in plain English how you would differentiate between "good" Muslims and "bad" ones? Will it be a written test? Whether they look shifty to you? Whether they attend a mosque? How will you know if someone is lying to you?

Any answers?

.

Please don't ever get in the position of having to make any important decisions. Or are you 10 years old?

I'll take that as you having no idea how you would go about deporting 'undesirables'.

Exactly the same way that any developed country like Canada goes about deporting us if we lose our right of residency there for whatever reason.In this case that would obviously include change in definition of nationality to jus sanguinis on grounds of national security.

Scary.

So, how many? fifty thousand? Half a million? Two million? Where to? What about second and third generation Muslims?

Not half as scary as leaving things as they are.

Edited by XJ Flyer on Monday 19th January 16:26

Edited by XJ Flyer on Monday 19th January 16:27

[XJ Flyer]

plasticpig said:

missingbadly999 said:

So you have no ideas or proposals at all then. Just paper thin criticisms of any valid ideas made by others.
That's pathetic and you should get off this forum and go back to sleep.

It's a far more realistic prospect then getting rid of all the Muslims from the UK. King Edward I had difficulty in getting rid of 2000 Jews from the UK because some of them had converted to Christianity (Google Edict Of Expulsion). Islam makes specific provision for Muslims pretending to be of other faiths. It's allowed if they are being persecuted.

It's not paper thin criticism. The logistics alone of getting rid of 2.5 million people; many of who you would have to expel by force is pretty much impossible. Why offer solutions that are impossible to implement?

Everyone knows that Islam allows for all kinds of subterfuge etc to get its way.Which is why any such programme would need to be along the lines of ethnicity not whatever type of convenient smoke screen that the Jihadist agenda is using to push its invasion of western Europe.In France that would obviously be mostly the North African presence in the country.While here it would be mostly those of Muslim Asian ethnicity.Although no doubt their socialist appeasers would try to make that as difficult as possible by destroying population records.As for the idea of them taking up arms to get their way what's new assuming they really wanted to turn a simple administrative process into a fight.Being that we've got less to lose by getting it over with now than leaving it for future generations to sort out a situation in which the country is turned into another Yugoslav type situation.But in which Jihad tries and possibly succeeds in taking over the country from its indigenous population.

[Blib]

XJ Flyer said:

Blib said:

XJ Flyer said:

Blib said:

missingbadly999 said:

Blib said:

It is not a stupid response. Tell me in plain English how you would differentiate between "good" Muslims and "bad" ones? Will it be a written test? Whether they look shifty to you? Whether they attend a mosque? How will you know if someone is lying to you?

Any answers?

.

Please don't ever get in the position of having to make any important decisions. Or are you 10 years old?

I'll take that as you having no idea how you would go about deporting 'undesirables'.

Exactly the same way that any developed country like Canada goes about deporting us if we lose our right of residency there for whatever reason.In this case that would obviously include change in definition of nationality to jus sanguinis on grounds of national security.

Scary.

So, how many? fifty thousand? Half a million? Two million? Where to? What about second and third generation Muslims?

Not half as scary as leaving things as they are.

So, how many? fifty thousand? Half a million? Two million? Where to? What about second and third generation Muslims?

[XJ Flyer]

Blib said:

XJ Flyer said:

Blib said:

XJ Flyer said:

Blib said:

missingbadly999 said:

Blib said:

It is not a stupid response. Tell me in plain English how you would differentiate between "good" Muslims and "bad" ones? Will it be a written test? Whether they look shifty to you? Whether they attend a mosque? How will you know if someone is lying to you?

Any answers?

.

Please don't ever get in the position of having to make any important decisions. Or are you 10 years old?

I'll take that as you having no idea how you would go about deporting 'undesirables'.

Exactly the same way that any developed country like Canada goes about deporting us if we lose our right of residency there for whatever reason.In this case that would obviously include change in definition of nationality to jus sanguinis on grounds of national security.

Scary.

So, how many? fifty thousand? Half a million? Two million? Where to? What about second and third generation Muslims?

Not half as scary as leaving things as they are.

So, how many? fifty thousand? Half a million? Two million? Where to? What about second and third generation Muslims?

Who cares how many.As for second third generation that's what a change in definition of nationality to jus sanguinis in this case would be all about.All of which sems a better option than the idea of 'de radicalising' known domestic born Jihadists.Who as we know's faith tells them to deceive their 'enemies'.

[Blib]

Cripes.

[pork911]

XJ Flyer said:

Everyone knows that Islam allows for all kinds of subterfuge etc to get its way.Which is why any such programme would need to be along the lines of ethnicity not whatever type of convenient smoke screen that the Jihadist agenda is using to push its invasion of western Europe.In France that would obviously be mostly the North African presence in the country.While here it would be mostly those of Muslim Asian ethnicity.Although no doubt their socialist appeasers would try to make that as difficult as possible by destroying population records.As for the idea of them taking up arms to get their way what's new assuming they really wanted to turn a simple administrative process into a fight.Being that we've got less to lose by getting it over with now than leaving it for future generations to sort out a situation in which the country is turned into another Yugoslav type situation.But in which Jihad tries and possibly succeeds in taking over the country from its indigenous population.

please expand on exactly what you mean by 'mostly north african', as well as 'muslim asian ethnicity'

[missingbadly999]

Blib said:

Cripes.

What is YOUR solution??

[XJ Flyer]

pork911 said:

XJ Flyer said:

Everyone knows that Islam allows for all kinds of subterfuge etc to get its way.Which is why any such programme would need to be along the lines of ethnicity not whatever type of convenient smoke screen that the Jihadist agenda is using to push its invasion of western Europe.In France that would obviously be mostly the North African presence in the country.While here it would be mostly those of Muslim Asian ethnicity.Although no doubt their socialist appeasers would try to make that as difficult as possible by destroying population records.As for the idea of them taking up arms to get their way what's new assuming they really wanted to turn a simple administrative process into a fight.Being that we've got less to lose by getting it over with now than leaving it for future generations to sort out a situation in which the country is turned into another Yugoslav type situation.But in which Jihad tries and possibly succeeds in taking over the country from its indigenous population.

please expand on exactly what you mean by 'mostly north african', as well as 'muslim asian ethnicity'

I thought that would be obvious going by the known main ethnic origins of the French Islamic population as opposed to ours.Although there would obviously be exceptions in either respective case.

[plasticpig]

XJ Flyer said:

Everyone knows that Islam allows for all kinds of subterfuge etc to get its way.Which is why any such programme would need to be along the lines of ethnicity not whatever type of convenient smoke screen that the Jihadist agenda is using to push its invasion of western Europe.In France that would obviously be mostly the North African presence in the country.While here it would be mostly those of Muslim Asian ethnicity.Although no doubt their socialist appeasers would try to make that as difficult as possible by destroying population records.As for the idea of them taking up arms to get their way what's new assuming they really wanted to turn a simple administrative process into a fight.Being that we've got less to lose by getting it over with now than leaving it for future generations to sort out a situation in which the country is turned into another Yugoslav type situation.But in which Jihad tries and possibly succeeds in taking over the country from its indigenous population.

So how do you distinguish between an Indian Muslim and an Indian Hindu or a Ugandan Asian Muslim from a Ugandan Asian Hindu?

[pork911]

XJ Flyer said:

pork911 said:

XJ Flyer said:

Everyone knows that Islam allows for all kinds of subterfuge etc to get its way.Which is why any such programme would need to be along the lines of ethnicity not whatever type of convenient smoke screen that the Jihadist agenda is using to push its invasion of western Europe.In France that would obviously be mostly the North African presence in the country.While here it would be mostly those of Muslim Asian ethnicity.Although no doubt their socialist appeasers would try to make that as difficult as possible by destroying population records.As for the idea of them taking up arms to get their way what's new assuming they really wanted to turn a simple administrative process into a fight.Being that we've got less to lose by getting it over with now than leaving it for future generations to sort out a situation in which the country is turned into another Yugoslav type situation.But in which Jihad tries and possibly succeeds in taking over the country from its indigenous population.

please expand on exactly what you mean by 'mostly north african', as well as 'muslim asian ethnicity'

I thought that would be obvious going by the known main ethnic origins of the French Islamic population as opposed to ours.Although there would obviously be exceptions in either respective case.

'coz obvious' good policy to have when going door to door with a forced deportation policy of one's own citizens

[XJ Flyer]

missingbadly999 said:

Blib said:

Cripes.

What is YOUR solution??

Let me guess.We admit to the Muslim cause that it is all our fault they are the victims in all this and lets let more in while trying to 'de radicalise' all those who are a potential threat.While conveniently over looking the actual content of what Islam is all about.

[XJ Flyer]

pork911 said:

XJ Flyer said:

pork911 said:

XJ Flyer said:

Everyone knows that Islam allows for all kinds of subterfuge etc to get its way.Which is why any such programme would need to be along the lines of ethnicity not whatever type of convenient smoke screen that the Jihadist agenda is using to push its invasion of western Europe.In France that would obviously be mostly the North African presence in the country.While here it would be mostly those of Muslim Asian ethnicity.Although no doubt their socialist appeasers would try to make that as difficult as possible by destroying population records.As for the idea of them taking up arms to get their way what's new assuming they really wanted to turn a simple administrative process into a fight.Being that we've got less to lose by getting it over with now than leaving it for future generations to sort out a situation in which the country is turned into another Yugoslav type situation.But in which Jihad tries and possibly succeeds in taking over the country from its indigenous population.

please expand on exactly what you mean by 'mostly north african', as well as 'muslim asian ethnicity'

I thought that would be obvious going by the known main ethnic origins of the French Islamic population as opposed to ours.Although there would obviously be exceptions in either respective case.

'coz obvious' good policy to have when going door to door with a forced deportation policy of one's own citizens

Our own citizens were never exactly known for their Islamic Jihadist tendencies.

As I said they are only 'own citizens' based on the idea of jus soli as implemented by the Islamic appeasement agenda of the socialist cheap labour alliance.As opposed to the inconvenient ( from their point of view ) definition of jus sanguinis.

[XJ Flyer]

plasticpig said:

XJ Flyer said:

Everyone knows that Islam allows for all kinds of subterfuge etc to get its way.Which is why any such programme would need to be along the lines of ethnicity not whatever type of convenient smoke screen that the Jihadist agenda is using to push its invasion of western Europe.In France that would obviously be mostly the North African presence in the country.While here it would be mostly those of Muslim Asian ethnicity.Although no doubt their socialist appeasers would try to make that as difficult as possible by destroying population records.As for the idea of them taking up arms to get their way what's new assuming they really wanted to turn a simple administrative process into a fight.Being that we've got less to lose by getting it over with now than leaving it for future generations to sort out a situation in which the country is turned into another Yugoslav type situation.But in which Jihad tries and possibly succeeds in taking over the country from its indigenous population.

So how do you distinguish between an Indian Muslim and an Indian Hindu or a Ugandan Asian Muslim from a Ugandan Asian Hindu?

Hopefully quite easily or the government's so called 'security' policy is fked.

[pork911]

XJ Flyer said:

pork911 said:

XJ Flyer said:

pork911 said:

XJ Flyer said:

Everyone knows that Islam allows for all kinds of subterfuge etc to get its way.Which is why any such programme would need to be along the lines of ethnicity not whatever type of convenient smoke screen that the Jihadist agenda is using to push its invasion of western Europe.In France that would obviously be mostly the North African presence in the country.While here it would be mostly those of Muslim Asian ethnicity.Although no doubt their socialist appeasers would try to make that as difficult as possible by destroying population records.As for the idea of them taking up arms to get their way what's new assuming they really wanted to turn a simple administrative process into a fight.Being that we've got less to lose by getting it over with now than leaving it for future generations to sort out a situation in which the country is turned into another Yugoslav type situation.But in which Jihad tries and possibly succeeds in taking over the country from its indigenous population.

please expand on exactly what you mean by 'mostly north african', as well as 'muslim asian ethnicity'

I thought that would be obvious going by the known main ethnic origins of the French Islamic population as opposed to ours.Although there would obviously be exceptions in either respective case.

'coz obvious' good policy to have when going door to door with a forced deportation policy of one's own citizens

Our own citizens were never exactly known for their Islamic Jihadist tendencies.

As I said they are only 'own citizens' based on the idea of jus soli as implemented by the Islamic appeasement agenda of the socialist cheap labour alliance.As opposed to the inconvenient ( from their point of view ) definition of jus sanguinis.

rather than this piecemeal approach please list your comprehensive guidelines for who should be kicked out

[Disastrous]

This is beyond mental!

I find XJ_Garnett pretty repugnant and would actually respect him more if he actually just came out and admitted he hates 'them' rather than hiding behind his anti-socialist, jus sanguinis rhetoric.

Aside from that, the solution is quite clearly 'don't tar every single fkjng Muslim with the same brush and enforce tougher sanctions on extremists and terrorists whilst accepting it's not all of them.'

Jesus. This topic is disgraceful.

[Blib]

missingbadly999 said:

Blib said:

Cripes.

What is YOUR solution??

Before I do so, let's note that you have not answered my question. This does not surprise me in the least. I'll leave that with you to ponder.

Here's my solution. You're not going to like it. You may want to look away now. Are you ready?




My solution is...........

........time.

That's all it's going to take. I grew up in an era where two diametrically opposed ideologies fought it out on a World stage. Both were armed to the teeth. Mutually assured destruction was only a button press away.

However, Liberal Democracy won. And, do you know why? Because it offered your average citizen a better, more comfortable lifestyle for them and their families than did Communism. And, I believe, the same thing will happen here.

The vast majority of people just want to get on with life. Have food in their bellies, a place to sleep and a quiet life. The radicals' offer is tempting for some. But, in the whole scheme of things, they are but a minor inconvenience.

Radical Islam doesn't give folk iphones, BMWs or sattelite TV. Yes, it can subjugate populations for a while - Iran, for example. But, that nation is bankrupt. Both morally and economically.

So, I suggest we wait. And continue to beam images our inane, gaudy but highly attractive & addictive lifestyle to the mostly young populations of those areas of the World who would hurt us.

I spent my working life in the East End of London. Drive through there now as the schools are turning out. What you see are thousands of kids, just getting on with their lives. They're not looking to overthrow our democracy. No, they're looking to get off with the new girl, Farhana or have a ride in Ismail's new Polo. They're absolutely normal, boring, unexceptional young Londoners.

You know, the ones you and XJflyer would throw out.

Now sunshine, care to answer my question? I dare you.

[Blib]

XJ Flyer said:

missingbadly999 said:

Blib said:

Cripes.

What is YOUR solution??

Let me guess.We admit to the Muslim cause that it is all our fault they are the victims in all this and lets let more in while trying to 'de radicalise' all those who are a potential threat.While conveniently over looking the actual content of what Islam is all about.

It must be rubbish being so scared of other people.

Sucks to be you.

[missingbadly999]

pork911 said:

rather than this piecemeal approach please list your comprehensive guidelines for who should be kicked out

And what would YOU do then?