Here we go again - 4 killed in BMW...

[anonymous-user]

amusingduck said:

The last story was less controversial because they weren't actively trying to escape the police, and the corresponding PH thread was a lot more unified than this thread is.

You should get a job in PR with answers like that

You’d be st at it if anybody with half a brain read your copy though.

[Red 4]

BlackLabel said:

You could ask the same question for PHs. Why is this such a big story on here when say this incident a few weeks ago wasn’t?

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

One gets 20 odd replies and the other almost 400.

The "Nasty Car Crash in Birmingham" thread is currently at over 1000 replies.

I get a feeling of deja vu reading this thread. The similarities between certain demographics are obvious, as are some comments.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

[amusingduck]

Brooking10 said:

amusingduck said:

The last story was less controversial because they weren't actively trying to escape the police, and the corresponding PH thread was a lot more unified than this thread is.

You should get a job in PR with answers like that

You’d be st at it if anybody with half a brain read your copy though.

Which part do you disagree with?

It's difficult for a thread to gain many pages if everyone is broadly in agreement.

Crashing whilst actively evading police generally garners less sympathy than crashing in general.

[anonymous-user]

amusingduck said:

Which part do you disagree with?

It's difficult for a thread to gain many pages if everyone is broadly in agreement.

Crashing whilst actively evading police generally garners less sympathy than crashing in general.

Strange how this one has atttacted a sudden uptick in attention since the funeral pictures appeared.

Almost as if the funeral somehow make the original acts even more worthy of commment and yet clearly those original acts can’t have got worse.

[amusingduck]

Brooking10 said:

amusingduck said:

Which part do you disagree with?

It's difficult for a thread to gain many pages if everyone is broadly in agreement.

Crashing whilst actively evading police generally garners less sympathy than crashing in general.

Strange how this one has atttacted a sudden uptick in attention since the funeral pictures appeared.

Almost as if the funeral somehow make the original acts even more worthy of commment and yet clearly those original acts can’t have got worse.

Sudden uptick? Most of the comments were pre-funeral pictures. I doubt there's a significant difference in the rate of posts since then.

The funeral pictures started a new line of conversation, which was "why are muslim women apparently unwelcome at funerals?".

Why can't people simultaneously be critical of those who crash whilst evading police, and also be critical of women being second class citizens under Islam, without those two viewpoints interfering with each other?

[bitchstewie]

amusingduck said:

Why can't people simultaneously be critical of those who crash whilst evading police, and also be critical of women being second class citizens under Islam, without those two viewpoints interfering with each other?

Probably because most folks on NP&E seem quite happy for women to be second class citizens until it's something involving Islam?

My perception is that there's a curious double-standard where everyone turns into a womens rights campaigner whenever Islam is mentioned.

Most other threads they're snakes with tits.

Odd that.

[TooMany2cvs]

bhstewie said:

amusingduck said:

Why can't people simultaneously be critical of those who crash whilst evading police, and also be critical of women being second class citizens under Islam, without those two viewpoints interfering with each other?

Probably because most folks on NP&E seem quite happy for women to be second class citizens until it's something involving Islam?

My perception is that there's a curious double-standard where everyone turns into a womens rights campaigner whenever Islam is mentioned.

Most other threads they're snakes with tits.

Odd that.

Now throw somebody gay and foreign into the mix, and watch their heads explode as they try to figure out the hierarchy of their bigotry.

[amusingduck]

bhstewie said:

amusingduck said:

Why can't people simultaneously be critical of those who crash whilst evading police, and also be critical of women being second class citizens under Islam, without those two viewpoints interfering with each other?

Probably because most folks on NP&E seem quite happy for women to be second class citizens until it's something involving Islam?

My perception is that there's a curious double-standard where everyone turns into a womens rights campaigner whenever Islam is mentioned.

Most other threads they're snakes with tits.

Odd that.

NP&E isn't a hivemind, and you're a great example of that. I would disagree that most people on here agree with, or are happy to accept the idea that women are second class citizens.

I wouldn't class myself as a womens rights campaigner, or a feminist. I don't agree with affirmative action, or "positive" discrimination, for example. I do believe in equality of opportunity, and people being treated equally.

I don't see any logical flaw in believing that an individual can be a "SWT" whilst also believing that women should be treated equally, and have equal opportunity.

Of course, some will use these arguments to justify their sexist or racist attitudes, but I haven't seen much of that on this thread.

[matchmaker]

saaby93 said:

JimSuperSix said:

Camoradi said:

Gary29 said:

It always amazes me just how tough trees are.

There really is no arguing with a tree is there?

I dunno. If the tree posted on here with his version of events I reckon a few would manage it.

This is the best comment on the thread

Bet that tree will be looking over its shoulder for the rest of its life.

[Randy Winkman]

TooMany2cvs said:

bhstewie said:

amusingduck said:

Why can't people simultaneously be critical of those who crash whilst evading police, and also be critical of women being second class citizens under Islam, without those two viewpoints interfering with each other?

Probably because most folks on NP&E seem quite happy for women to be second class citizens until it's something involving Islam?

My perception is that there's a curious double-standard where everyone turns into a womens rights campaigner whenever Islam is mentioned.

Most other threads they're snakes with tits.

Odd that.

Now throw somebody gay and foreign into the mix, and watch their heads explode as they try to figure out the hierarchy of their bigotry.

Funny cos it's true.

[andymc]

In the late 80’s it was young white lads pinching cars and getting chased from the police, im near Newcastle and it was pretty much an established thing, I think it’s a thing loads of scrotes do,

[Smiler.]

bhstewie said:

amusingduck said:

Why can't people simultaneously be critical of those who crash whilst evading police, and also be critical of women being second class citizens under Islam, without those two viewpoints interfering with each other?

Probably because most folks on NP&E seem quite happy for women to be second class citizens until it's something involving Islam?

My perception is that there's a curious double-standard where everyone turns into a womens rights campaigner whenever Islam is mentioned.

Most other threads they're snakes with tits.

Odd that.

Well you've got the whole of PH sewn up.

What's your secret?

[T6 vanman]

matchmaker said:

Bet that tree will be looking over its shoulder for the rest of its life.

Based on your username, That depends on if your local to the vicinity????

[James_B]

TooMany2cvs said:

Now throw somebody gay and foreign into the mix, and watch their heads explode as they try to figure out the hierarchy of their bigotry.

I wonder if you will ever gain the self awareness to understand the hypocrisy in what you have posted there.

I fear it’s unlikely.

[TooMany2cvs]

James_B said:

TooMany2cvs said:

Now throw somebody gay and foreign into the mix, and watch their heads explode as they try to figure out the hierarchy of their bigotry.

I wonder if you will ever gain the self awareness to understand the hypocrisy in what you have posted there.

I fear it’s unlikely.

Why not spell it out...?

[Wobbegong]

Woody John said:

saaby93 said:

brightbluesmurf said:

Thousands gather for funeral of four friends killed in '100mph' chase when they hit a tree while they were being chased by police at 5.30am

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6026713/Hu...

Isn't there a juxtaposition in the photo, with the church and the mourners.
We dont know enough about the background to the crash, why were they being pursued at speed in the centre of town

And not a single woman in the photo

http://www.mbcol.org.uk/funeral-procedure/attending-a-muslim-funeral-a-guide-for-non-muslims/#.W2dIF4rTWhA

“Etiquettes

There are also some matters regarding etiquette that one should be aware of when attending the funeral. Women from the Muslim faith commonly do not attend the funeral however should non Muslim women wish to attend the following advice should be noted:”


When my friend died, the women were at home preparing meals for the family of the deceased during the funeral.

[TooMany2cvs]

Wobbegong said:

When my friend died, the women were at home preparing meals for the family of the deceased during the funeral.

When I went to a Muslim friend's funeral, at a mosque in South London, the women were there.

They were in a different room, sure, but they were in the mosque. And they were at the cemetery, with no gender segregation. Muslims and non-Muslims together.

[Gargamel]

TooMany2cvs said:

Why not spell it out...?

C...

[saaby93]

andymc said:

In the late 80’s it was young white lads pinching cars and getting chased from the police, im near Newcastle and it was pretty much an established thing, I think it’s a thing loads of scrotes do,

But would this have happened for them?

[anonymous-user]

saaby93 said:

But would this have happened for them?

Assuming 10,000 geordies were not massed then what is your point ?