Somali pirates could kill yacht couple within days.

[DonkeyApple]

cardigankid said:

DonkeyApple said:

I think we would all understand there can be little critisism here and we can rejoice in the fact that these two people are free and that people care enough to help other Britons when in trouble.

Cue to strike up Land of Hope and Glory.



This is totally wrong for many reasons.

All the stuff about it being just the same as RNLI operations off the coast is twaddle, including the little Victorian melodrama involving the impoverished father and Tiny Tim perishing in a rowing boat because they are scared what their rescue might cost. These services are rightly provided in the UK and in British waters, and they absolutely should charge those whose irresponsibility has got them into trouble in the first place. Just in the same way as running out of petrol will now get you points and a fine. For the benefit of delusional imperialists, the Indian Ocean is NOT British waters.

If you have been involved in raising money for charity, you will know that £400k does not just fall out of the sky. It is a big sum. For good reason UK Government policy is not to pay ransom. Can we agree on that? Now you may believe that it was raised by Somali Boy Scouts packing bags at Waitrose, but it is clear to me that the UK Government has by some roundabout method, paid this, which is folly.

If parts of the world are dangerous, and they are, by land sea or air, then it is foolish for holidaymakers to go there. There is no international default right to trip round the globe. If these rich old fools had been murdered, it would at least have been a salutary lesson for all the clowns planning something similar in the belief that their safety is somehow guaranteed by the Government or the UN.

Yes there is a big problem, yes someone should sort it out, but that someone is not the UK. I have tried to suggest that it should be those whose financial interests are genuinely at risk, and that when noone sorts the problem out of charity, those very people will in fact rise to the challenge, and that in the meantime, ships from various navies floating round the Indian Ocean with their Elfin Safety advisers on board are just an expensive pantomime.

And I sincerely doubt any significant part of any proceeds these people receive from any books etc will go anywhere other than their pockets. What is wrong with accepting personal responsibility?

Edited by cardigankid on Friday 26th November 15:54

What real facts are you basing this on

You seem very upset about details of which there is absolutely no proof, let alone evidence to back up.

What's your evidence for the Govt cover-up?

In spite of the statement from the couple that they would use the income to repay those who helped them where is your evidence to the contrary?

I do detect a bit of tin foil.

[cardigankid]

DonkeyApple said:

In spite of the statement from the couple that they would use the income to repay those who helped them where is your evidence to the contrary?

I think that statement is sufficiently general to cover everything from throwing 50p at a beggar to selling their house and giving the proceeds to charity. I will believe it when I see it. The TW Two are just a monument to British stupidity.

Government gives millions in aid the Somali Government, some Somalis come up with £400k. Stands to reason, doesn't it? However you cut it, its paying the ransom, which is not what is supposed to happen. It will result in more of the same, guaranteed. But paying protection money is commonplace these days, like inflation, people have forgotten how it ends up.

Please delete the sentences you consider incorrect.

[Spiritual_Beggar]

So it turns out that some of the Pirates, who captured these two, have family in the UK and are living here under Political Asylum (no doubt on benfits too).

Go figure

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2010/11/2...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1333193/Tw...

[DonkeyApple]

cardigankid said:

DonkeyApple said:

In spite of the statement from the couple that they would use the income to repay those who helped them where is your evidence to the contrary?

Please delete the sentences you consider incorrect.

Done.

[JensenA]

"A Year at Gunpoint" - Have you been watching this Cardigankid? Hardly a couple of stupid rich old doderers who expected everyone to rescue them are they? I admire them, it's not something I would have liked to endured.

[MOTORVATOR]

More importantly as a direct result of them coming home we get to see Julie Etchingham interviewing them. Worth every penny whoever paid it.

[Flintstone]

MOTORVATOR said:

More importantly as a direct result of them coming home we get to see Julie Etchingham interviewing them. Worth every penny whoever paid it.

Really? She's not exactly a yeti but the needle on my schwing-o-meter barely twitched when I looked her up.