Boris Johnson- Prime Minister (Vol. 4)
Discussion
jakesmith said:
Were there sufficient masks available in March / April / May for the entire population to buy them and go about their business wearing them?
I seem to remember a shortage, which was also Boris' fault at the time what with him heading up NHS, retail and wholesale procurement, as well as manufacture, forecasting, supply chain etc.
Maybe I imagined it.
The shortage was in medical grade face masks, not the one's being recommended for use today.I seem to remember a shortage, which was also Boris' fault at the time what with him heading up NHS, retail and wholesale procurement, as well as manufacture, forecasting, supply chain etc.
Maybe I imagined it.
mx5nut said:
Unknown_User said:
The mental gymnastics on display today from our resident Dom Cum/Boris Ultra's is quite astounding! Keep it up lads, it's all rather entertaining...
We love Boris because he speaks his mind and isn't afraid to do what's right for our country.Except on masks, where he's part of a globalist metropolitan elite conspiracy and should be ignored before we lose our very freedom
jakesmith said:
Were there sufficient masks available in March / April / May for the entire population to buy them and go about their business wearing them?
I seem to remember a shortage, which was also Boris' fault at the time what with him heading up NHS, retail and wholesale procurement, as well as manufacture, forecasting, supply chain etc.
Maybe I imagined it.
I think that was part of the government’s worry but we were short of PPE and certain grades of mask but not face coverings (which you can make yourself) or even disposable surgical masks. I seem to remember a shortage, which was also Boris' fault at the time what with him heading up NHS, retail and wholesale procurement, as well as manufacture, forecasting, supply chain etc.
Maybe I imagined it.
It was just another poor decision like leaving pubs open and urging people not to go there.
The government even said masks might give a false sense of security or might lead to us spreading infection as we didn’t know how to wear them etc.
Obviously when we ended up with some of the highest death tolls and lowest cases of mask wearing it might look a bit bad though in the inquiry so best get them on for a bit now after all.
Helicopter123 said:
The shortage was in medical grade face masks, not the one's being recommended for use today.
Can you provide any evidence to support this assertion? (Not that there was a shortage of medical masks, but that there was no shortage of the masks being recommended for use today)Helicopter123 said:
mx5nut said:
Unknown_User said:
The mental gymnastics on display today from our resident Dom Cum/Boris Ultra's is quite astounding! Keep it up lads, it's all rather entertaining...
We love Boris because he speaks his mind and isn't afraid to do what's right for our country.Except on masks, where he's part of a globalist metropolitan elite conspiracy and should be ignored before we lose our very freedom
andymadmak said:
Helicopter123 said:
The shortage was in medical grade face masks, not the one's being recommended for use today.
Can you provide any evidence to support this assertion? (Not that there was a shortage of medical masks, but that there was no shortage of the masks being recommended for use today)El stovey said:
Helicopter123 said:
mx5nut said:
Unknown_User said:
The mental gymnastics on display today from our resident Dom Cum/Boris Ultra's is quite astounding! Keep it up lads, it's all rather entertaining...
We love Boris because he speaks his mind and isn't afraid to do what's right for our country.Except on masks, where he's part of a globalist metropolitan elite conspiracy and should be ignored before we lose our very freedom
andymadmak said:
Helicopter123 said:
The shortage was in medical grade face masks, not the one's being recommended for use today.
Can you provide any evidence to support this assertion? (Not that there was a shortage of medical masks, but that there was no shortage of the masks being recommended for use today)We're talking about a simple cloth covering, nothing more.
markyb_lcy said:
Hilarious.
People were not going out in as great a number, but they were going to supermarkets, and the prevalence of the virus at the time was MUCH higher.
Imo masks would have had a much greater effect (on transmissions) 3 months ago than they will now.
Is not the first part of your sentence exactly what jakesmith has been saying, and have you not yourself admitted there was a shortage of masks in the first month or two?People were not going out in as great a number, but they were going to supermarkets, and the prevalence of the virus at the time was MUCH higher.
Imo masks would have had a much greater effect (on transmissions) 3 months ago than they will now.
gooner1 said:
markyb_lcy said:
Hilarious.
People were not going out in as great a number, but they were going to supermarkets, and the prevalence of the virus at the time was MUCH higher.
Imo masks would have had a much greater effect (on transmissions) 3 months ago than they will now.
Is not the first part of your sentence exactly what jakesmith has been saying, and have you not yourself admitted there was a shortage of masks in the first month or two?People were not going out in as great a number, but they were going to supermarkets, and the prevalence of the virus at the time was MUCH higher.
Imo masks would have had a much greater effect (on transmissions) 3 months ago than they will now.
Tuna said:
Wow, you guys are really getting yourselves worked up. Really handing those "Boris Ultras" their asses.
We made up a set of masks a month or two ago - there are some good guides online - and as per government rules, the we've been wearing them on public transport. They're a faff, but if this can keep numbers heading in the right direction, then of course we'll wear them for shops.
Does the tinfoil go on the inside, or the outside?
is this the support of Boris saying masks are essential, and the non support of Gove saying they won't be. Or was Gove right and Boris wrong?We made up a set of masks a month or two ago - there are some good guides online - and as per government rules, the we've been wearing them on public transport. They're a faff, but if this can keep numbers heading in the right direction, then of course we'll wear them for shops.
Does the tinfoil go on the inside, or the outside?
Does anybody have any idea of what this rabble are doing, or even discussing between themselves.
Why do so many Tory supporters have to support them. Can you not accept being a Tory and recognising that this rabble are nothing but a rabble ?
gooner1 said:
markyb_lcy said:
Hilarious.
People were not going out in as great a number, but they were going to supermarkets, and the prevalence of the virus at the time was MUCH higher.
Imo masks would have had a much greater effect (on transmissions) 3 months ago than they will now.
Is not the first part of your sentence exactly what jakesmith has been saying, and have you not yourself admitted there was a shortage of masks in the first month or two?People were not going out in as great a number, but they were going to supermarkets, and the prevalence of the virus at the time was MUCH higher.
Imo masks would have had a much greater effect (on transmissions) 3 months ago than they will now.
Does the lack of mask availability in the past justify their use now, in and of itself?
Does the now increased amount of people in shops justify their use now any more than the tiny fraction of infected people vs then mitigates their need?
Edited by markyb_lcy on Tuesday 14th July 11:23
rustednut said:
is this the support of Boris saying masks are essential, and the non support of Gove saying they won't be. Or was Gove right and Boris wrong?
Does anybody have any idea of what this rabble are doing, or even discussing between themselves.
Why do so many Tory supporters have to support them. Can you not accept being a Tory and recognising that this rabble are nothing but a rabble ?
You must be new.Does anybody have any idea of what this rabble are doing, or even discussing between themselves.
Why do so many Tory supporters have to support them. Can you not accept being a Tory and recognising that this rabble are nothing but a rabble ?
He's definitely not supporting them
jakesmith said:
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hstewie said:
hstewie said: Honestly it's really odd.
I've said before that I know this thing takes its toll on peoples mental well being but I'm genuinely shocked at how quickly people seem to turn and assume plot conspiracy and subjugation over something as trivial as being asked to wear a mask temporarily.
Couldn't agree more, it's a mask during a pandemic FFS, it's hardly trying to centralise and control the entire broadband provision of the country or something.I've said before that I know this thing takes its toll on peoples mental well being but I'm genuinely shocked at how quickly people seem to turn and assume plot conspiracy and subjugation over something as trivial as being asked to wear a mask temporarily.
It just goes to show how pathetic the 'dedicated anti-Boris ultras' on this thread are that they have to resort to such garbage to slur the bloke's performance. There is not exactly a paucity of genuine misdeeds to criticise him for.
If it's the right result people need to suck it up IMHO.
It makes you wonder how people would cope in times of genuine hardship if this is the reaction to having to wear a mask whilst they're out buying The Spectator.
jakesmith said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Honestly it's really odd.
I've said before that I know this thing takes its toll on peoples mental well being but I'm genuinely shocked at how quickly people seem to turn and assume plot conspiracy and subjugation over something as trivial as being asked to wear a mask temporarily.
Couldn't agree more, it's a mask during a pandemic FFS, it's hardly trying to centralise and control the entire broadband provision of the country or something.I've said before that I know this thing takes its toll on peoples mental well being but I'm genuinely shocked at how quickly people seem to turn and assume plot conspiracy and subjugation over something as trivial as being asked to wear a mask temporarily.
IforB said:
jakesmith said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Honestly it's really odd.
I've said before that I know this thing takes its toll on peoples mental well being but I'm genuinely shocked at how quickly people seem to turn and assume plot conspiracy and subjugation over something as trivial as being asked to wear a mask temporarily.
Couldn't agree more, it's a mask during a pandemic FFS, it's hardly trying to centralise and control the entire broadband provision of the country or something.I've said before that I know this thing takes its toll on peoples mental well being but I'm genuinely shocked at how quickly people seem to turn and assume plot conspiracy and subjugation over something as trivial as being asked to wear a mask temporarily.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:jakesmith said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Honestly it's really odd.
I've said before that I know this thing takes its toll on peoples mental well being but I'm genuinely shocked at how quickly people seem to turn and assume plot conspiracy and subjugation over something as trivial as being asked to wear a mask temporarily.
Couldn't agree more, it's a mask during a pandemic FFS, it's hardly trying to centralise and control the entire broadband provision of the country or something.I've said before that I know this thing takes its toll on peoples mental well being but I'm genuinely shocked at how quickly people seem to turn and assume plot conspiracy and subjugation over something as trivial as being asked to wear a mask temporarily.
It just goes to show how pathetic the 'dedicated anti-Boris ultras' on this thread are that they have to resort to such garbage to slur the bloke's performance. There is not exactly a paucity of genuine misdeeds to criticise him for.
If it's the right result people need to suck it up IMHO.
It makes you wonder how people would cope in times of genuine hardship if this is the reaction to having to wear a mask whilst they're out buying The Spectator.
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