Balanced Question Time panel tonight - of course not! VOL 2
Discussion
fido said:
I love how the Remoaners churn out the £350m figure, as if you wouldn't sell out your democratic processes for £150m or £200m .. "oh it's only £200m - think i'll just cower to the EUSSR then" .. the same lack of thinking from those who voted for Corbyn because he was promising free stuff. :-(
People "churn it out" because Vote Leave churned it out and it is a blatant lie, one that convinced a lot of people.Welshbeef said:
People don't get it do they.
It's political top trumps - all that matters is how you see the future. Do you want to be able to control your boarders create change and abolish any laws we have.
Not able to kick out Abu Hamza due to "human rights". EU laws allowing U.K. Prisoners the right to vote - erm no they don't have the right to vote until out of jail. Human rights.
Abu Hamza and votes for prisoners were both the ECHR, of which we remain a member post-Brexit.It's political top trumps - all that matters is how you see the future. Do you want to be able to control your boarders create change and abolish any laws we have.
Not able to kick out Abu Hamza due to "human rights". EU laws allowing U.K. Prisoners the right to vote - erm no they don't have the right to vote until out of jail. Human rights.
Yet another piece of misinformation for the gullible by Vote Leave.
Zod said:
Abu Hamza and votes for prisoners were both the ECHR, of which we remain a member post-Brexit.
Yet another piece of misinformation for the gullible by Vote Leave.
Not quite that simple however Mr "oh your so gullible"Yet another piece of misinformation for the gullible by Vote Leave.
The Conservative Party manifesto ruled out repealing or replacing the Human Rights Act "while the process of Brexit is under way," although it said consideration will be given to the UK's "human rights legal framework" when Brexit concludes.
Stickyfinger said:
Zod said:
Abu Hamza and votes for prisoners were both the ECHR, of which we remain a member post-Brexit.
Yet another piece of misinformation for the gullible by Vote Leave.
Not quite that simple however Mr "oh your so gullible"Yet another piece of misinformation for the gullible by Vote Leave.
The Conservative Party manifesto ruled out repealing or replacing the Human Rights Act "while the process of Brexit is under way," although it said consideration will be given to the UK's "human rights legal framework" when Brexit concludes.
You think she has a snowball in Hell's chance of repealing the Human Rights Act in this Parliament? Stickyfinger said:
Zod said:
You think she has a snowball in Hell's chance of repealing the Human Rights Act in this Parliament? jjlynn27 said:
audidoody said:
If you voted for LEAVE purely because of a politician's promise of £350m a week extra for the NHS then I have a bridge in London to sell you.
Most people voted LEAVE to restore executive control of our laws to Westminster
The £350m was a side show.
No, they didn't.Most people voted LEAVE to restore executive control of our laws to Westminster
The £350m was a side show.
LDN said:
Mr GrimNasty said:
Funny how the re-moaners don't paste up all the dire predictions and financial reports that were complete fabrications as project fear.
£350million, it was an example of taking control, not an exact promise.
If you look at what the EU is planning in the near future, the UK's contribution would have only gone through the roof anyway - had we stayed in.
The EU has an immense expansion in spending planned, it will just grow and grow and waste and waste, until everyone is bankrupt except Germany.
I'm not a remainer... and I completely agree hat both sides were full of s£350million, it was an example of taking control, not an exact promise.
If you look at what the EU is planning in the near future, the UK's contribution would have only gone through the roof anyway - had we stayed in.
The EU has an immense expansion in spending planned, it will just grow and grow and waste and waste, until everyone is bankrupt except Germany.
t ! The point of the post above is that Wiccan and Cobnapint claimed that there was no real statement made; that £350 mil would / could go to the NHS... when there clearly was. It's great to be able to see things for what they are... some people here as more blinkered than remoaners... and it's funny to watch! Let's go down the pub
Let's go shopping
Let's watch the telly
Let's.............it's a suggestion. If the bus had said '£350 mill a week extra WILL absolutely f
king definitely go to the NHS' then the Leave side could properly be called out on it.As it is, at the end of the negotiations there may actually BE more money available for the NHS, nobody knows yet. But one thing is for sure, it won't stop remoaners using this ONE single piece of flimsy evidence to try and say that voters were somehow hoodwinked into voting leave by what was written on the side of a bloody bus. They make themselves look even more pathetic every time they bring it up and forget that the rubbish that came from the remain side was overwhelming by comparison.
Cobnapint said:
LDN said:
Mr GrimNasty said:
Funny how the re-moaners don't paste up all the dire predictions and financial reports that were complete fabrications as project fear.
£350million, it was an example of taking control, not an exact promise.
If you look at what the EU is planning in the near future, the UK's contribution would have only gone through the roof anyway - had we stayed in.
The EU has an immense expansion in spending planned, it will just grow and grow and waste and waste, until everyone is bankrupt except Germany.
I'm not a remainer... and I completely agree hat both sides were full of s£350million, it was an example of taking control, not an exact promise.
If you look at what the EU is planning in the near future, the UK's contribution would have only gone through the roof anyway - had we stayed in.
The EU has an immense expansion in spending planned, it will just grow and grow and waste and waste, until everyone is bankrupt except Germany.
t ! The point of the post above is that Wiccan and Cobnapint claimed that there was no real statement made; that £350 mil would / could go to the NHS... when there clearly was. It's great to be able to see things for what they are... some people here as more blinkered than remoaners... and it's funny to watch! Let's go down the pub
Let's go shopping
Let's watch the telly
Let's.............it's a suggestion. If the bus had said '£350 mill a week extra WILL absolutely f
king definitely go to the NHS' then the Leave side could properly be called out on it.As it is, at the end of the negotiations there may actually BE more money available for the NHS, nobody knows yet. But one thing is for sure, it won't stop remoaners using this ONE single piece of flimsy evidence to try and say that voters were somehow hoodwinked into voting leave by what was written on the side of a bloody bus. They make themselves look even more pathetic every time they bring it up and forget that the rubbish that came from the remain side was overwhelming by comparison.
jjlynn27 said:
audidoody said:
If you voted for LEAVE purely because of a politician's promise of £350m a week extra for the NHS then I have a bridge in London to sell you.
Most people voted LEAVE to restore executive control of our laws to Westminster
The £350m was a side show.
No, they didn't.Most people voted LEAVE to restore executive control of our laws to Westminster
The £350m was a side show.
Mr GrimNasty said:
Funny how the re-moaners don't paste up all the dire predictions and financial reports that were complete fabrications as project fear.
£350million, it was an example of taking control, not an exact promise.
Exactly. Horrid woman from the IMF in 2016 : "pretty bad to very, very bad consequences" or whatever Osborne asked her to stick in the report.£350million, it was an example of taking control, not an exact promise.
At least the £350m figure was clarified during the debates i.e. it was a 'gross' figure - not that the Remoaners care a jot!
Zod said:
What are you talking about? How would the UK Government ever abolish a European Convention? She has no chance whatsoever of enacting a British Convention of Human Rights. There is a large majority in Parliament against doing so.
Who said abolish ?I said take it into British law, then amend.
Welshbeef said:
A Neil got a bit tired of that hotty on TW.
He's a supremely intelligent chap who likes a bit of educated banter with reason and logic - he really doesn't like someone restating a point he has just made to then try to make it her own.
Actually - not sure of his actual political position - he would be a great PM of the UK.
Uber smart tick
Quick witted tick
Vast general knowledge tick
Can really destroy someone talking bull st. In fact once he catches a whiff of it he bounds it down.
A Neil for PM.
Perhaps he could relaunch the W(h)ig party? He's a supremely intelligent chap who likes a bit of educated banter with reason and logic - he really doesn't like someone restating a point he has just made to then try to make it her own.
Actually - not sure of his actual political position - he would be a great PM of the UK.
Uber smart tick
Quick witted tick
Vast general knowledge tick
Can really destroy someone talking bull s
t. In fact once he catches a whiff of it he bounds it down. A Neil for PM.
olimain said:
I can't say I've met a single person who voted Leave because of the bus! It's such a pathetic argument - I for one wish they'd never used the bloody thing with the amount of whinging it's generated!
Ditto. It continues to be thrown about to support Remains claim, they were lied too. I'd wager 99% of those bringing it up are Corbynistas-like that mentalist on QT last night 
BIANCO said:
Perhaps we should have a look at labours manifesto then. Lots of similar lies as you like to say in that. Promises of spending far more than £350 a week that independent analysis's said bullst to.
But that doesn't matter because they lost.
You've just had your arse comprehensively handed to you on a plate but, rather than a little humility, you try a little whataboutism?t to. But that doesn't matter because they lost.
Quaint...
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