BMA suggesting smoking to be banned in cars..

BMA suggesting smoking to be banned in cars..

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dickymint

24,574 posts

260 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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^^^ about £7 a feckin packet now!

tim0409

4,509 posts

161 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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Whenever I am behind somebody smoking in their car they always seem to throw the end out of the window, so on this basis it should be banned and 3 year jail sentence immediately handed down.

On a more serious note, who exactly is going to police this? Mobile phone use in vehicles is illegal but a large number still do it because a)they are tw*ts and b) there is very little chance of getting caught. I very rarely see traffic police on our roads.

Edited by tim0409 on Wednesday 16th November 16:02

dickymint

24,574 posts

260 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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tim0409 said:
Whenever I am behind somebody smoking in their car they always seem to through the end out of the window, so on this basis it should be banned and 3 year jail sentence immediately handed down.

On a more serious note, who exactly is going to police this? Mobile phone use in vehicles is illegal but a large number still do it because a)they are tw*ts and b) there is very little chance of getting caught. I very rarely see traffic police on our roads.
Same way as in all Nazi states - your kids will be educated to grass you up.

NDA

21,719 posts

227 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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Perhaps the state will then move to ban smoking in your own home?

ewenm

28,506 posts

247 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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This is exactly the sort of thing the BMA should be suggesting, as they don't have any need to consider tax ramifications, getting voted in again, etc, just public health.

It's up to the government to decide whether it's a good idea in a wider context. I'd be disappointed if the British Medical Association didn't suggest things like this. I don't expect to see it implemented.

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

244 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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It's a matter of when, not if.

rs1952

5,247 posts

261 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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Justayellowbadge said:
It's a matter of when, not if.
Probably not this side of the next Labour victory at a general election wink

yahtzee

464 posts

160 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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impossible to police .. i see someone with a mobile phone in hand everyday in there car .. no way is it possible to enforce..

jeff m2

2,060 posts

153 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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The mayor in a third world city in which I use to live, after hearing about more developed countries banning smoking in public places decided to do the same.

So....he banned smoking in all public places, public parks, streets etc.
Bars were of course privately owned so they were excempt.

I kid you not.

hollydog

1,108 posts

194 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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I already thought it was band . If it is not it should be . You can,t use your phone or take a drink or eat something so whats the differnce . Should be concentrating on driving . I you can,t wait between fags to drive its a poor thing .Have ever seen an one drop a fag while they are driving . There are hopping around like mad . Now thats not safe .Or are they talking about just sitting in your car smoking.

Edited by hollydog on Wednesday 16th November 13:37

aizvara

2,051 posts

169 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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jeff m2 said:
The mayor in a third world city in which I use to live, after hearing about more developed countries banning smoking in public places decided to do the same.

So....he banned smoking in all public places, public parks, streets etc.
Bars were of course privately owned so they were excempt.

I kid you not.
Are you being ironic with your third-world city description? Was this the major of Shinjuku? Smoking in public is banned there, and in other wards of Tokyo. Except in designated areas (booth-like things).

MX7

7,902 posts

176 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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hollydog said:
I already thought it was band . If it is not it should be . You can,t use your phone or take a drink or eat something so whats the differnce . Should be concentrating on driving . I you can,t wait between fags to drive its a poor thing .
Did you write that while driving?

You're missing the point. It's a ban on smoking in cars, regardless of whether you're the driver or passenger. At present it's only a ban on work vehicles, but given that I see plenty of people in work vehicles smoking, I suspect that this will just become another piece of ignored legislation.

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

244 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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jeff m2 said:
The mayor in a third world city in which I use to live, after hearing about more developed countries banning smoking in public places decided to do the same.

So....he banned smoking in all public places, public parks, streets etc.
Bars were of course privately owned so they were excempt.

I kid you not.
In a way, that makes more sense to me - if your concern is public health, non-smokers have far less choice about being in public places than they do bars, and if the demand was there non-smoking establishments would open.

I'd have very little problem with that sort of arrangement here.

MartyPubes

900 posts

161 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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I disagree with this proposal, just like I disagree with the ban on smoking in pubs. People are free to make their own choices, and if they choose to subject themselves to the dangers of smoke then so be it.

However, for smokers the writing is on the wall. I have a feeling that in a hundred years time people who smoke will be viewed like people who self harm now, and treated accordingly.

don'tbesilly

13,962 posts

165 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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MartyPubes said:
I disagree with this proposal, just like I disagree with the ban on smoking in pubs. People are free to make their own choices, and if they choose to subject themselves to the dangers of smoke then so be it.

However, for smokers the writing is on the wall. I have a feeling that in a hundred years time people who smoke will be viewed like people who self harm now, and treated accordingly.
How are self harmers viewed and treated then?
Is it just your view on self harmers or is it a widely held view by others?

Apache

39,731 posts

286 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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When I see an adult smoking in a car with kids it makes me see red, people this retarded and selfish are only going to change by being made to.
Unfortunately this affects the rest of the populace who are less inconsiderate.

jeff m2

2,060 posts

153 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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Justayellowbadge said:
jeff m2 said:
The mayor in a third world city in which I use to live, after hearing about more developed countries banning smoking in public places decided to do the same.

So....he banned smoking in all public places, public parks, streets etc.
Bars were of course privately owned so they were excempt.

I kid you not.
In a way, that makes more sense to me - if your concern is public health, non-smokers have far less choice about being in public places than they do bars, and if the demand was there non-smoking establishments would open.

I'd have very little problem with that sort of arrangement here.
I should add we had the Pacific Ocean just off to the rightbiggrin.
The realty was that people did not smoke in their offices (volantarilly) and would have a cig on the sidewalk, should a policeman wander up the street they would either put out their cig or more usually get invited into a parked car or taxi, even an open jeepsmile which were of course privately owned.

jeff m2

2,060 posts

153 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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aizvara said:
jeff m2 said:
The mayor in a third world city in which I use to live, after hearing about more developed countries banning smoking in public places decided to do the same.

So....he banned smoking in all public places, public parks, streets etc.
Bars were of course privately owned so they were excempt.

I kid you not.
Are you being ironic with your third-world city description? Was this the major of Shinjuku? Smoking in public is banned there, and in other wards of Tokyo. Except in designated areas (booth-like things).
No, not being ironic. Davao City, Pinoyland
OK maybe developing country would be more accuratesmile

Edited by jeff m2 on Wednesday 16th November 14:04

Saddle bum

4,211 posts

221 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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There is a precedent in that a motorist has already been "done" for eating a chocky bar (or eating an apple, can't remember) whilst standing at the lights. Don't know whether there was an appeal.

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

211 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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Saddle bum said:
There is a precedent in that a motorist has already been "done" for eating a chocky bar (or eating an apple, can't remember) whilst standing at the lights. Don't know whether there was an appeal.
I never understood that.

Sit at the lights with a giggy on the go and no one cares.
Eat or drink and you get booked and points.
silly