Guy who fed python a kitten, Drowns one now for kicks..

[k-ink]

hairykrishna said:

vixen1700 said:

So I'm odd for wanting this to be found and have the st kicked out of him? The law will do nothing so a bit of natural justice seems in order.

Sounds reasonable to me.

I think so. In my mind badly hurting/killing a human is worse than badly hurting/killing a kitten. Find him, lock him up, prevent him from legally ever keeping another animal.

That is because as a human you arrogantly assume you are more important than other animals. You are not. We are all animals. As we have more intelligence the burden of morality rests with us. Killing for amusement is not acceptable. Therefore punishment is due.

[NismoGT]

The culprit looks female.

Funny how all of PH's dipsts who said they had no problem with the kitten being fed to a pyhton have now gone quiet.

I hope 4chan track this down.

[R1gtr]

Davey S2 said:

Sick fking bh.

I would happily kill her.

Need a hand? You ram the broom handle up her and I will quite happily push her into the Thames and not let her up!

[mrmr96]

Oakey said:

isn't this sort of behaviour the sign of a serial killer in the making?

Yes.

There was a film just like this in 2008 called "Untraceable".
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0880578/synopsis

IMDB synopsis on Untraceable said:

One night, an anonymous tip leads them to a website called killwithme.com. The site features a streaming video of a kitten being tortured and killed.

After the kitten's death, killwithme's webmaster (Joseph Cross) 'graduates' to human victims

[hairykrishna]

k-ink said:

That is because as a human you arrogantly assume you are more important than other animals. You are not. We are all animals.

I assume I am more important than other animals. Any attempt to defend this rationally (intelligence etc) tends to end up failing in extremity but I'm happy to accept it as an irrational moral belief. Otherwise surely animals would need the same legal protection as humans? Where would it end? Do insects count? Only vertebrates? Where's the line drawn?

[R300will]

hairykrishna said:

k-ink said:

That is because as a human you arrogantly assume you are more important than other animals. You are not. We are all animals.

I assume I am more important than other animals. Any attempt to defend this rationally (intelligence etc) tends to end up failing in extremity but I'm happy to accept it as an irrational moral belief. Otherwise surely animals would need the same legal protection as humans? Where would it end? Do insects count? Only vertebrates? Where's the line drawn?

And i am sure a lion would assume it is more important than you, hence you don't leave the bus on safari.

[magnus911]

Simbu said:

a domestic cat is not part of a snake's diet.

I think you'll find that a snake will decide what's part of its diet. If you keep it in a cage and only feed it mice then it has little choice. In the wild, I think it would be perfectly happy with a small cat. Or a bird of paradise, or any other suitably sized mammal/bird.

[NismoGT]

I know most of you hate FB on here.

But if you can help track the person down?

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1224731048#...

[R300will]

magnus911 said:

Simbu said:

a domestic cat is not part of a snake's diet.

I think you'll find that a snake will decide what's part of its diet. If you keep it in a cage and only feed it mice then it has little choice. In the wild, I think it would be perfectly happy with a small cat. Or a bird of paradise, or any other suitably sized mammal/bird.

I think you will find that the snake wouldn't have the chance to take a cat, hence it not being part of their natural diet.

[k-ink]

R300will said:

And i am sure a lion would assume it is more important than you, hence you don't leave the bus on safari.

Exactly!

[hairykrishna]

k-ink said:

R300will said:

And i am sure a lion would assume it is more important than you, hence you don't leave the bus on safari.

Exactly!

What if I took a decent double rifle with me and persuaded it that it had the importance assumption all wrong?

I just don't understand the 'animals are equally as important as humans' viewpoint. Surely you have to have a line? Or would you hand out the same violence to me for stepping on an ant as you would to this cat drowning nutcase?

[magnus911]

R300will said:

I think you will find that the snake wouldn't have the chance to take a cat, hence it not being part of their natural diet.

Needs citation.

[R300will]

hairykrishna said:

What if I took a decent double rifle with me and persuaded it that it had the importance assumption all wrong?

I just don't understand the 'animals are equally as important as humans' viewpoint. Surely you have to have a line? Or would you hand out the same violence to me for stepping on an ant as you would to this cat drowning nutcase?

To me its relative to intelligence, a cat is much more intelligent and mentally capable than an ant and therefore deserves more rights and respect.

[hairykrishna]

R300will said:

To me its relative to intelligence, a cat is much more intelligent and mentally capable than an ant and therefore deserves more rights and respect.

This a view which is actually pretty close to my own. I think some animals, particularly the great apes, could do with some more rights.

[NiceCupOfTea]

Not sure that I want to see it anyway, but can't see a link to the site and couldn't find it on youtube - have both of them been deleted now?

[magnus911]

Simbu said:

I disagree. Animal slaughter (in the UK at least) is relatively humane these days and the main point that helps to distance abattiors etc from these cretinous s is that there is a point to it that morally justifies the behaviour.

Who cares about UK only if you're so upset about this? Surely a kitten drowned in Indonesia would be just as hateful as what happened to this poor guy?

Here's what we humans do to thousands of animals every day:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detail...

I don't see how it's worth getting yourself too pissed off about the cat. If you want to be an activist, there are other more worthy causes out there which don't have the affect of pleasing the sick fk who made this video and encouraging him to make more.

[k-ink]

hairykrishna said:

I just don't understand the 'animals are equally as important as humans' viewpoint. Surely you have to have a line? Or would you hand out the same violence to me for stepping on an ant as you would to this cat drowning nutcase?

I agree there is a line. Where that is, I do not know for certain. I don't care about insects for example. Each person is different, but I would say cats and dogs are (or should) generally be classed as man's friends. Something like a mouse or rat generally is not.

I can see China will have a different view point.

[johnnyboy101]

R300will said:

To me its relative to intelligence, a cat is much more intelligent and mentally capable than an ant and therefore deserves more rights and respect.

But then does that mean if I am more intelligent than you, I can harm you?

[magnus911]

k-ink said:

I agree th but I would say cats and dogs are (or should) generally be classed as man's friends. Something like a mouse or rat generally is not.

This is the whole point. Because they're cute and fluffy to you, you care more than you do about rats. It's not rational, it's human.

[hairykrishna]

k-ink said:

I agree there is a line. Where that is, I do not know for certain. I don't care about insects for example. Each person is different, but I would say cats and dogs are (or should) generally be classed as man's friends. Something like a mouse or rat generally is not.

I can see China will have a different view point.

Yes, tricky one isn't it? To use your example, rats fall into the same category as cats/dogs for me primarily because of intelligence. I've had all three as pets!
Personally I'm happy putting humans in a separate group but I know it's not something which it's possible to argue entirely rationally.