Has CMD developed a backbone???
Discussion
Ayahuasca said:
We are on our own now - this is us effectively out of the EU.
I only need to hear five little words now.Please, Let this be true!
Im sure there are a great number of things that we actually benefit from being in the EU... None of which come to mind, but recently it has been the EU trying to f
k over UK and take as much money out of them as possible with nothing in return.100s of new stupid laws like a banana/cucumber must be straight otherwise you can sell them.... Fining UK £900 million for the way it was spending its own money... Asking UK to give a lot of money to the EU when other states are giving practically nothing but benefiting greatly.
Ayahuasca said:
We are on our own now - this is us effectively out of the EU.
Doubt it. Sarkozy's and Merkel's replacements will be straight on the phone kissing British arse so long as we use this opportunity to further our prospects.Merkel was willing to concede to our requirements so that we would support them. Sarkozy chose to defned his own political career at the expense of his nation. He knew that refusing to temper a series of clauses he would be rewarded with an overseas scapegoat for his political failures.
We are best away from the EU while those who caused this mess are still at the top and trying to blame everyone else for their failings. Once they are gone, should the EU survive it will be business as usual.
scenario8 said:
No it doesn't. It means our influence within the 27 will be reduced. How deeply and for how long only future history will tell.
Yes - whether this works out to our benefit we won't be able to tell for a while,I always like President Johnson's euphimism - "I'd rather be in the tent pissing out than outside the tent pissing in".
Even Mrs T held that view.
Eric Mc said:
Yes - whether this works out to our benefit we won't be able to tell for a while,
I always like President Johnson's euphimism - "I'd rather be in the tent pissing out than outside the tent pissing in".
Even Mrs T held that view.
You would have thought toilets would have been provided at these sorts of high level events, wouldn't you?I always like President Johnson's euphimism - "I'd rather be in the tent pissing out than outside the tent pissing in".
Even Mrs T held that view.
That said there's no Glastonbury next year as all the available portaloos will be at the Olympics. Maybe a lack of toilet facilities is a problem.
Eric Mc said:
scenario8 said:
No it doesn't. It means our influence within the 27 will be reduced. How deeply and for how long only future history will tell.
Yes - whether this works out to outr benefit we can't tell for a while,I always like President Johnson's euphimism - "I'd rather be in the tent pissing out than outside the tent pissing in".
Even Mrs T held that view.
Eric Mc said:
scenario8 said:
No it doesn't. It means our influence within the 27 will be reduced. How deeply and for how long only future history will tell.
Yes - whether this works out to our benefit we won't be able to tell for a while,I always like President Johnson's euphimism - "I'd rather be in the tent pissing out than outside the tent pissing in".
Even Mrs T held that view.
Ayahuasca said:
scenario8 said:
Ayahuasca said:
We are on our own now - this is us effectively out of the EU.
No it doesn't. It means our influence within the 27 will be reduced. How deeply and for how long only future history will tell.
I can't fathom for the life of me why 6 countries are still queuing up to join in the clusterf
k...Ayahuasca said:
Eric Mc said:
scenario8 said:
No it doesn't. It means our influence within the 27 will be reduced. How deeply and for how long only future history will tell.
Yes - whether this works out to outr benefit we can't tell for a while,I always like President Johnson's euphimism - "I'd rather be in the tent pissing out than outside the tent pissing in".
Even Mrs T held that view.
Eric Mc said:
Make it my quote then. I certainly wouldn't want to be outside, in the cold, with sensitive parts of my anatomy exposed to the elements.
Suppose you could argue it both ways. I'd prefer to be outside where I have freedom to roam rather than in a pissy smelling tent.I suppose most analogies don't hold up if you scrutinise them too much
Eric Mc said:
Ayahuasca said:
Eric Mc said:
scenario8 said:
No it doesn't. It means our influence within the 27 will be reduced. How deeply and for how long only future history will tell.
Yes - whether this works out to outr benefit we can't tell for a while,I always like President Johnson's euphimism - "I'd rather be in the tent pissing out than outside the tent pissing in".
Even Mrs T held that view.
Much better to wander around on the outside chatting with all the other chaps also on the outside and wait for the defacators to be thrown out or clear up their own mess.
There's no arguing about the fact that there are piles of st everywhere. What isn't altogether clear is whether staying in the tent results in one being buried in a deeper pile of the stuff than crawling out of the tent. And of course, there are two, now perhaps even three, within that tent.
t everywhere. What isn't altogether clear is whether staying in the tent results in one being buried in a deeper pile of the stuff than crawling out of the tent. And of course, there are two, now perhaps even three, within that tent.DonkeyApple said:
Eric Mc said:
Ayahuasca said:
Eric Mc said:
scenario8 said:
No it doesn't. It means our influence within the 27 will be reduced. How deeply and for how long only future history will tell.
Yes - whether this works out to outr benefit we can't tell for a while,I always like President Johnson's euphimism - "I'd rather be in the tent pissing out than outside the tent pissing in".
Even Mrs T held that view.
Much better to wander around on the outside chatting with all the other chaps also on the outside and wait for the defacators to be thrown out or clear up their own mess.
Du1point8 said:
Please, Let this be true!
Im sure there are a great number of things that we actually benefit from being in the EU... None of which come to mind, but recently it has been the EU trying to fk over UK and take as much money out of them as possible with nothing in return.
100s of new stupid laws like a banana/cucumber must be straight otherwise you can sell them.... Fining UK £900 million for the way it was spending its own money... Asking UK to give a lot of money to the EU when other states are giving practically nothing but benefiting greatly.
Too right !Im sure there are a great number of things that we actually benefit from being in the EU... None of which come to mind, but recently it has been the EU trying to f
k over UK and take as much money out of them as possible with nothing in return.100s of new stupid laws like a banana/cucumber must be straight otherwise you can sell them.... Fining UK £900 million for the way it was spending its own money... Asking UK to give a lot of money to the EU when other states are giving practically nothing but benefiting greatly.
Save £50m a day
Send back unwanted immigrants and stop the benefit tourism . Secure the boarders
Replace the EU Human rights act with something more sensible.
Tell those pillocks the Kinnocks and the other pointless MEP's to do one
At the end of the day, our exports to the EU are a tiny % of GDP. The UK imports far more stuff from the EU than it exports.
I cannot see us being frozen out of the only useful part of belonging to the EU - trade.
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