Cameron fires Aidan Burley for hiring Nazi uniform,
Discussion
MartyPubes said:
This is unprecedented is it? First ever instance of public outcry because a public figure was involved in some Nazi fancy dress? No. Anyone who still gets caught out by the 'dressed up like Hitler' bit is such a f
king idiot they deserve everything they get.
There never is a public outcry because no one really cares that much. The papers/media print that at the same time they break the story and tell you that. Some just believe it.king idiot they deserve everything they get. MartyPubes said:
thinfourth2 said:
No a huge error of judgement is invading a country and killing hundreds of thousands of people
A huge error of judgement os borrowing billions of pounds and destroying the jobs of thousands of folk
A huge error of judgement is announcing you are selling all the countries gold at a market low
This is a case of someone stood next to a bloke in a silly costume
This is unprecedented is it? First ever instance of public outcry because a public figure was involved in some Nazi fancy dress? No. Anyone who still gets caught out by the 'dressed up like Hitler' bit is such a fA huge error of judgement os borrowing billions of pounds and destroying the jobs of thousands of folk
A huge error of judgement is announcing you are selling all the countries gold at a market low
This is a case of someone stood next to a bloke in a silly costume
king idiot they deserve everything they get. He wore a suit that was in very bad taste IMO. he then lied about the whole thing while CMD covered for him, CMD been made to look an almighty ass yet again due to him hiring the suit which clearly put CMDs name across the papers for hiring stupid people, either way its a sacking by media outcry. CMD dropped tha axe to save himself more embarrassment if/when more details emerge from the clown in question and his lack of common sense.
BUT that is my 2ps worth.
BUT that is my 2ps worth.
Mr_B said:
MartyPubes said:
This is unprecedented is it? First ever instance of public outcry because a public figure was involved in some Nazi fancy dress? No. Anyone who still gets caught out by the 'dressed up like Hitler' bit is such a fking idiot they deserve everything they get.
There never is a public outcry because no one really cares that much. The papers/media print that at the same time they break the story and tell you that. Some just believe it.king idiot they deserve everything they get. Whether or not you should have to 'get away with it' is entirely another issue, but you do.
MartyPubes said:
This is unprecedented is it? First ever instance of public outcry because a public figure was involved in some Nazi fancy dress? No. Anyone who still gets caught out by the 'dressed up like Hitler' bit is such a fking idiot they deserve everything they get.
Do you care?king idiot they deserve everything they get. Do you know anyone that cares?
Or are you outraged because the daily mail tells you to be outraged
thinfourth2 said:
Sadly yes
Otherwise Cameron wouldn't be firing folk who go to fancy dress parties
Don't forget that nazi related symbols are banned in many european countries, including France where the stag party took place.Otherwise Cameron wouldn't be firing folk who go to fancy dress parties
I wonder if Cameron and Sarkozy discussed it at the recent EU Summit?
CDP said:
Mr GrimNasty said:
The guy may well be an idiot, but when people aren't free to camp it up in a Nazi/SS uniform, you really do have the Nazis in control. Political correctness is now the weapon of choice for destroying people and/or their careers - that should be what worries people. So why wasn't the BBC castigated and fined for producing Allo Allo?
In this country the Nazis are considered a figure of fun and stupid enough material for humour on pretty much any occasion. Unfortunately they appear to have upset a lot of cultures in other countries and when working in senior political roles this does need to be taken into account.MX7 said:
Mr GrimNasty said:
The guy may well be an idiot, but when people aren't free to camp it up in a Nazi/SS uniform, you really do have the Nazis in control.
He's free to wear what he likes, (not that he did, his friend did) and the Tories are free to sack him. That's freedom, isn't it.cossy400 said:
He wore a suit that was in very bad taste IMO. he then lied about the whole thing while CMD covered for him, CMD been made to look an almighty ass yet again due to him hiring the suit which clearly put CMDs name across the papers for hiring stupid people, either way its a sacking by media outcry. CMD dropped tha axe to save himself more embarrassment if/when more details emerge from the clown in question and his lack of common sense.
BUT that is my 2ps worth.
You might want to check the story first.BUT that is my 2ps worth.
He wasn't wearing the suit. He was photographed at a stag do of which one person wore the suit, which is illegal in France.
Mr GrimNasty said:
CDP said:
Mr GrimNasty said:
The guy may well be an idiot, but when people aren't free to camp it up in a Nazi/SS uniform, you really do have the Nazis in control. Political correctness is now the weapon of choice for destroying people and/or their careers - that should be what worries people. So why wasn't the BBC castigated and fined for producing Allo Allo?
In this country the Nazis are considered a figure of fun and stupid enough material for humour on pretty much any occasion. Unfortunately they appear to have upset a lot of cultures in other countries and when working in senior political roles this does need to be taken into account.Doing something that causes serious offence does matter when negotiating a treaty or something similar. This is pretty trivial but considering the political balance in Europe at the moment it's best to only upset people when you have good cause to.
elster said:
cossy400 said:
He wore a suit that was in very bad taste IMO. he then lied about the whole thing while CMD covered for him, CMD been made to look an almighty ass yet again due to him hiring the suit which clearly put CMDs name across the papers for hiring stupid people, either way its a sacking by media outcry. CMD dropped tha axe to save himself more embarrassment if/when more details emerge from the clown in question and his lack of common sense.
BUT that is my 2ps worth.
You might want to check the story first.BUT that is my 2ps worth.
He wasn't wearing the suit. He was photographed at a stag do of which one person wore the suit, which is illegal in France.
He has a very public job and is supposed to be a role model and cleaner than white.
Yet he went on an SS style stag do to France.
was the supposed driving force behind the idea to dress up the groom like that and is refusing to deny it so therefore did do it.
Was there when offensive toasts were made.
If you were in a career that you need to be absolutely immaculate or risk losing it all, then you do so by not putting yourself in that situation, if you don't want to then I suggest you don't persue that career.
Its not difficult, I was supposed to do a trip to Amsterdam and heard that 2 of the party of 4 were intent on bringing some items back that was illegal but they could see no wrong, rather than be messed up in that st and possibly get arrested which would result in a record that means any bank I work for sees that on my files would mean a lot of explaining or just accept that it could ruin my career... I didn't go!! easy choice... Oh and yes they did get caught, arrested and I have no idea what truly happened but someone mentioned suspended sentences...
CMD had no choice but to remove him, can you imagine all of the Tories are Nazi lovers style of heckling and st that would come from the media and Labour???
He basically put his own nails in the coffin.
Yet he went on an SS style stag do to France.
was the supposed driving force behind the idea to dress up the groom like that and is refusing to deny it so therefore did do it.
Was there when offensive toasts were made.
If you were in a career that you need to be absolutely immaculate or risk losing it all, then you do so by not putting yourself in that situation, if you don't want to then I suggest you don't persue that career.
Its not difficult, I was supposed to do a trip to Amsterdam and heard that 2 of the party of 4 were intent on bringing some items back that was illegal but they could see no wrong, rather than be messed up in that s
t and possibly get arrested which would result in a record that means any bank I work for sees that on my files would mean a lot of explaining or just accept that it could ruin my career... I didn't go!! easy choice... Oh and yes they did get caught, arrested and I have no idea what truly happened but someone mentioned suspended sentences...CMD had no choice but to remove him, can you imagine all of the Tories are Nazi lovers style of heckling and s
t that would come from the media and Labour???He basically put his own nails in the coffin.
Du1point8 said:
He has a very public job and is supposed to be a role model and cleaner than white.
Yet he went on an SS style stag do to France.
was the supposed driving force behind the idea to dress up the groom like that and is refusing to deny it so therefore did do it.
Was there when offensive toasts were made.
If you were in a career that you need to be absolutely immaculate or risk losing it all, then you do so by not putting yourself in that situation, if you don't want to then I suggest you don't persue that career.
Its not difficult, I was supposed to do a trip to Amsterdam and heard that 2 of the party of 4 were intent on bringing some items back that was illegal but they could see no wrong, rather than be messed up in that st and possibly get arrested which would result in a record that means any bank I work for sees that on my files would mean a lot of explaining or just accept that it could ruin my career... I didn't go!! easy choice... Oh and yes they did get caught, arrested and I have no idea what truly happened but someone mentioned suspended sentences...
CMD had no choice but to remove him, can you imagine all of the Tories are Nazi lovers style of heckling and st that would come from the media and Labour???
He basically put his own nails in the coffin.
I don't want a cleaner than white MP.Yet he went on an SS style stag do to France.
was the supposed driving force behind the idea to dress up the groom like that and is refusing to deny it so therefore did do it.
Was there when offensive toasts were made.
If you were in a career that you need to be absolutely immaculate or risk losing it all, then you do so by not putting yourself in that situation, if you don't want to then I suggest you don't persue that career.
Its not difficult, I was supposed to do a trip to Amsterdam and heard that 2 of the party of 4 were intent on bringing some items back that was illegal but they could see no wrong, rather than be messed up in that s
t and possibly get arrested which would result in a record that means any bank I work for sees that on my files would mean a lot of explaining or just accept that it could ruin my career... I didn't go!! easy choice... Oh and yes they did get caught, arrested and I have no idea what truly happened but someone mentioned suspended sentences...CMD had no choice but to remove him, can you imagine all of the Tories are Nazi lovers style of heckling and s
t that would come from the media and Labour???He basically put his own nails in the coffin.
I want an ordinary person.
As much as I liked Louse Mensch's comments about the allegations of drug taking:
"1. Whilst working at EMI, in the 1990s, you took drugs with Nigel Kennedy at Ronnie Scott's in Birmingham, including dancing on a dance floor, whilst drunk, with Mr Kennedy, in front of journalists. Photos of this exist."
Response
"1. Although I do not remember the specific incident, this sounds highly probable. I thoroughly enjoyed working with Nigel Kennedy, whom I remember with affection. Additionally, since I was in my twenties, I'm sure it was not the only incident of the kind; we all do idiotic things when young. I am not a very good dancer and must apologise to any and all journalists who were forced to watch me dance that night at Ronnie Scott's."
elster said:
Du1point8 said:
He has a very public job and is supposed to be a role model and cleaner than white.
Yet he went on an SS style stag do to France.
was the supposed driving force behind the idea to dress up the groom like that and is refusing to deny it so therefore did do it.
Was there when offensive toasts were made.
If you were in a career that you need to be absolutely immaculate or risk losing it all, then you do so by not putting yourself in that situation, if you don't want to then I suggest you don't persue that career.
Its not difficult, I was supposed to do a trip to Amsterdam and heard that 2 of the party of 4 were intent on bringing some items back that was illegal but they could see no wrong, rather than be messed up in that st and possibly get arrested which would result in a record that means any bank I work for sees that on my files would mean a lot of explaining or just accept that it could ruin my career... I didn't go!! easy choice... Oh and yes they did get caught, arrested and I have no idea what truly happened but someone mentioned suspended sentences...
CMD had no choice but to remove him, can you imagine all of the Tories are Nazi lovers style of heckling and st that would come from the media and Labour???
He basically put his own nails in the coffin.
I don't want a cleaner than white MP.Yet he went on an SS style stag do to France.
was the supposed driving force behind the idea to dress up the groom like that and is refusing to deny it so therefore did do it.
Was there when offensive toasts were made.
If you were in a career that you need to be absolutely immaculate or risk losing it all, then you do so by not putting yourself in that situation, if you don't want to then I suggest you don't persue that career.
Its not difficult, I was supposed to do a trip to Amsterdam and heard that 2 of the party of 4 were intent on bringing some items back that was illegal but they could see no wrong, rather than be messed up in that s
t and possibly get arrested which would result in a record that means any bank I work for sees that on my files would mean a lot of explaining or just accept that it could ruin my career... I didn't go!! easy choice... Oh and yes they did get caught, arrested and I have no idea what truly happened but someone mentioned suspended sentences...CMD had no choice but to remove him, can you imagine all of the Tories are Nazi lovers style of heckling and s
t that would come from the media and Labour???He basically put his own nails in the coffin.
I want an ordinary person.
As much as I liked Louse Mensch's comments about the allegations of drug taking:
"1. Whilst working at EMI, in the 1990s, you took drugs with Nigel Kennedy at Ronnie Scott's in Birmingham, including dancing on a dance floor, whilst drunk, with Mr Kennedy, in front of journalists. Photos of this exist."
Response
"1. Although I do not remember the specific incident, this sounds highly probable. I thoroughly enjoyed working with Nigel Kennedy, whom I remember with affection. Additionally, since I was in my twenties, I'm sure it was not the only incident of the kind; we all do idiotic things when young. I am not a very good dancer and must apologise to any and all journalists who were forced to watch me dance that night at Ronnie Scott's."
It means keep out of the papers from doing anything stupid and make sure you have nothing that can come back to haunt you from your past.
elster said:
As much as I liked Louse Mensch's comments...
How's that relevant? That's about something that happened many years ago, in a different career. This is about a new boy who should be making every effort to impress. Instead he comes across as arrogant, insensitive and thick.
MX7 said:
This is about a new boy who should be making every effort to impress. Instead he comes across as arrogant, insensitive and thick.
And in today's climate where MPs don't have a previous career it counts.In past eras MPs had normally grown up before they reached the house. I don't like it either but I think Cameron did the right thing.
Badgerboy said:
The consensus is the Germans had the best looking uniforms, evidently people are just trying to look sharp. Hugo Boss you know!
This. My mates missus threw him a WWII themed fancy dress party for his 30th however German uniforms were banned. It was a pretty dreary looking party.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff