Where can they cut back on money???
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Cyder said:
f
king parasites.
And this, ladies and gentlemen is exactly what is wrong with the country.
In our parents day if they couldn't afford they wouldn't have had it and would have scrimped and saved until they could. Now these leeches think they just deserve it.![frown](/inc/images/frown.gif)
Absolutely, I have been really fortunate in my life - but my parents have some real stories about tough times.![](/inc/images/censored.gif)
And this, ladies and gentlemen is exactly what is wrong with the country.
In our parents day if they couldn't afford they wouldn't have had it and would have scrimped and saved until they could. Now these leeches think they just deserve it.
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A fully subsidised lifestyle is a joke, Benefits should allow people to exist in a healthy state and inspire them to further themselves.
jbi said:
Dont pay them money... issue food stamps with a limited range of food allowed.
Exactly.After X number of months the cash stops and you recieve some kind of ration booklet system that permits the purchase of items deemed suitable for non workers by the state.
We need to bring social stigma back to being a slack f
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Once they come off jobseekers which should only ever last a year at most or are registered disabled then they go to stamps.
DonkeyApple said:
Exactly.
After X number of months the cash stops and you recieve some kind of ration booklet system that permits the purchase of items deemed suitable for non workers by the state.
We need to bring social stigma back to being a slack f
ker and where this doesn't work they just need to be able to exist.
Once they come off jobseekers which should only ever last a year at most or are registered disabled then they go to stamps.
Make them have stuff like powdered egg? After X number of months the cash stops and you recieve some kind of ration booklet system that permits the purchase of items deemed suitable for non workers by the state.
We need to bring social stigma back to being a slack f
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Once they come off jobseekers which should only ever last a year at most or are registered disabled then they go to stamps.
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rover 623gsi said:
To be fair £240 a week to feed eight people isn’t that much. It’s only £30 per person.
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rover 623gsi said:
families of eight are very rare
Good point. I agree.but....
1) They didn't have 6 children when they became benefit dependent
2) Large families are less likely to have working parents
from http://research.dwp.gov.uk/asd/asd5/rports2005-200... (Page 23)
"Employment rates of mothers and fathers
Over the past 30 years, fathers with the largest families have always had the lowest employment rates but these fathers’ prospects have been exceptionally sensitive to cyclical variations in the overall unemployment rate.
Mothers with the largest families have also consistently had the lowest employment rates – they fell further and further behind the growing employment rates of mothers of small families until the mid 1990s, so that their recent improvement came later than that of other mothers."
The system makes it possible, and some people are not slow to exploit the system
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16722186
And he was such a nice bloke to boot, was sad viewing but inspiring stuff
The poor family even lived in a shed next to the piles of s
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And he was such a nice bloke to boot, was sad viewing but inspiring stuff
The poor family even lived in a shed next to the piles of s
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Edited by superkartracer on Wednesday 1st February 15:37
I don't particularly care whether people smoke or not. It's none of my business unless they're bleating they can't afford to live on the money they're given. Surely any responsible parent would either give up the cigarettes, or cut back massively? If they don't want to find a job, something has to give.
Assuming they smoke cheapies - and they will - then 200 at £5.70 a pack is £57.20 a week. Plus the rollies, which brings it to around £62 a week. How can anybody struggling to live as it is justify £248 a month on cigarettes? It's hard to believe a light - a tiny, god forsaken little flicker of recognition - doesn't flit in his brain when he's saying "We simply can't afford, blah blah blah".
And I'm as far from a smoking Nazi as you'll find, for the record!
Assuming they smoke cheapies - and they will - then 200 at £5.70 a pack is £57.20 a week. Plus the rollies, which brings it to around £62 a week. How can anybody struggling to live as it is justify £248 a month on cigarettes? It's hard to believe a light - a tiny, god forsaken little flicker of recognition - doesn't flit in his brain when he's saying "We simply can't afford, blah blah blah".
And I'm as far from a smoking Nazi as you'll find, for the record!
So this article shows it is not only possible to live under the £26k cap with a family of 8, but live fairly well (compared to a working family for example) with everything you need, a generous food budget etc.
The Tories need to shout this from the rooftops when numbers such as X families losing £85 per week, being made homeless and so on.
The Tories need to shout this from the rooftops when numbers such as X families losing £85 per week, being made homeless and so on.
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