Jimmy Carr and his (no) tax
Discussion
Soovy said:
2 jokes against him isn't exactly "Twitter users turning on him" though, is it? And it's not exactly funny enough to warrant a rofl really.Especially when there's been more jokes about it that weren't against him. Such as John Bishop's "To be honest @jimmycarr 's finances are like his jokes - every comedian in the country read it and said I wish I thought of that!". Which I suspect also reflects the mood of quite a few of the posters here that are berating him.
Eric Mc said:
TKF said:
If anyone was given the opportunity to legally pay less tax they would do so. To claim otherwise is a massive fat lie.
Don't hate tha playa.
Are you absolutely sure of that?Don't hate tha playa.
How do you know what others do?
johnfm said:
Well, if they simplified and reduced the tax burden, he probably wouldn't bother.
What about the children, the NHS, the multiple services that we must provide, social mobility, opportunities for the poor and finally what about the f
king planet?Low tax to compete against low tax economies(tax havens)??? how dare you try to become competitive against your competition!!!
Adrian W said:
Gargamel said:
Why pick on Jimmy ?
Because he's just not funnyMy favourite "comedian owns heckler" moment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY9mqrarjhQ
Ayahuasca said:
Eric Mc said:
TKF said:
If anyone was given the opportunity to legally pay less tax they would do so. To claim otherwise is a massive fat lie.
Don't hate tha playa.
Are you absolutely sure of that?Don't hate tha playa.
How do you know what others do?
Read Gillian Tett's book "Fools Gold".
The last thing people are is rational.
bobbylondonuk said:
What about the children, the NHS, the multiple services that we must provide, social mobility, opportunities for the poor and finally what about the fking planet?
Low tax to compete against low tax economies(tax havens)??? how dare you try to become competitive against your competition!!!
I didn't know Jersey was a competitor?king planet?Low tax to compete against low tax economies(tax havens)??? how dare you try to become competitive against your competition!!!
I rather think the IR will be deeply unimpressed with the Jersey scheme. My guess is this will be reversed by the Revenue. I think they will pursue this all the way.
Unless the Revenue get to grips with the like of this scheme where an individual clearly based within the UK, and earning income within the UK can simply use a complex artificial device to substantially avoid (?) the taxation due, which will amount to millions, the goodwill of the honest millions of taxpayers that pay for everything the government does in the UK will be severely damaged.
The Revenue rely on most taxpayers being completely honest, and too busy worrying about how to survive in business, to consider complex artificial tax avoidance schemes.
There is a Judicial Revue going on in the High court currently, I believe, questioning the Revenues powers to commute the profits of a major telecoms business, by agreement, whereby the tax due was dramatically reduced.
I think that case being brought to the High Court demonstrates that other taxpayers are not happy with the apparent preferential treatment. I think the judges will concur in due course.
If the Revenue lose that case, which I think they will, then there is going to be real fun and games for the Tax Authorities.
The sort of games Jimmy Carr is playing are going to have to stop or the Revenue are going to find an awful lot of people becoming very discriminating and creative in how they structure the taxation liabilities of their businesses.
The law must apply equally to all citizens. No one can be more equal than the others.
Unless the Revenue get to grips with the like of this scheme where an individual clearly based within the UK, and earning income within the UK can simply use a complex artificial device to substantially avoid (?) the taxation due, which will amount to millions, the goodwill of the honest millions of taxpayers that pay for everything the government does in the UK will be severely damaged.
The Revenue rely on most taxpayers being completely honest, and too busy worrying about how to survive in business, to consider complex artificial tax avoidance schemes.
There is a Judicial Revue going on in the High court currently, I believe, questioning the Revenues powers to commute the profits of a major telecoms business, by agreement, whereby the tax due was dramatically reduced.
I think that case being brought to the High Court demonstrates that other taxpayers are not happy with the apparent preferential treatment. I think the judges will concur in due course.
If the Revenue lose that case, which I think they will, then there is going to be real fun and games for the Tax Authorities.
The sort of games Jimmy Carr is playing are going to have to stop or the Revenue are going to find an awful lot of people becoming very discriminating and creative in how they structure the taxation liabilities of their businesses.
The law must apply equally to all citizens. No one can be more equal than the others.
Agreed.
A country survives through the consent of the people. If certain individuals (especially supercillious and smug individuals) carry on in such a way as demonstrated by Mr Carr, the whole ethos of how the country is run and funded starts to crumble. Carr is supposed to be of Irish descent. I wonder does he have any Greek ancestry.
A country survives through the consent of the people. If certain individuals (especially supercillious and smug individuals) carry on in such a way as demonstrated by Mr Carr, the whole ethos of how the country is run and funded starts to crumble. Carr is supposed to be of Irish descent. I wonder does he have any Greek ancestry.
Chuff, this has and will go on, for as long as there are tax havens people will use them. The only way to close this is to tax loaned income as income, and that ain't going to happen. Why do you think the channel islands exist?
You can't restrict the free movement of capital, it's a bedrock principle of capatilist economics, if I've got money I should be able to put it where I like, if that means it falls into another tax juristiction then so be it.
Glasgow Rangers EBT cases are showing similair kinds of things are rampant in football, I suspect it's rampant amongst wealthy media and business people paid by companies who wish to save tax.
You can't restrict the free movement of capital, it's a bedrock principle of capatilist economics, if I've got money I should be able to put it where I like, if that means it falls into another tax juristiction then so be it.
Glasgow Rangers EBT cases are showing similair kinds of things are rampant in football, I suspect it's rampant amongst wealthy media and business people paid by companies who wish to save tax.
Eric Mc said:
Ayahuasca said:
Eric Mc said:
TKF said:
If anyone was given the opportunity to legally pay less tax they would do so. To claim otherwise is a massive fat lie.
Don't hate tha playa.
Are you absolutely sure of that?Don't hate tha playa.
How do you know what others do?
Read Gillian Tett's book "Fools Gold".
The last thing people are is rational.
How many of your clients have said, 'great job with the accounts Eric, but you know what, I would have liked to pay a bit more tax.' I would make a rational bet bet that not too many.
If dear Jimmy's accountant had given him two options: a) UK income tax at 50% on 3 million or b) tax of almost zero on the same income, both being perfectly legal options, which would the rational person choose?
This is only a story if you already dislike Jimmy Carr - but even then you have ludicrously high standards if you expect someone to sacrifice one and a half million pounds just because it isn't concordant with a JOKE that he told a year ago.
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