Cameron tells Kirschner to...
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davepoth said:
Probably closest to the truth. The thick envelope she was carrying around apparently had "Malvinas" written on it in black felt tip so it was fairly obvious what was about to go down.
Her behaviour is highly embarrassing for Argentinians at the moment, like a drunk relative at a wedding who decides they have some irrelevant point to make and insists on doing so, and everybody at the party is doing their best to ignore them.Diplomacy by envelope-with-felt tip-pen-on-it
I think that playing the "it's up to them game" is a bit weak tbh. It's all very clever-clever and democratic-looking, but ultimately, saying "well it's not my fault gov". Childish.
Better would be "it's part of the UK, that is un-negotiable. If you so much as think of invading again we will respond with extreme military force. But we really would prefer not to sink any more of your ships. Now good day."
Better would be "it's part of the UK, that is un-negotiable. If you so much as think of invading again we will respond with extreme military force. But we really would prefer not to sink any more of your ships. Now good day."
thinfourth2 said:
skinley said:
thinfourth2 said:
give it 3 months and he will hand them over to Argentina
What makes you say that?If he folds because of a few fat folk want cheap pasties then what chance have the falklands got when an entire country wants Cameron t change his mind
Just to add to the stupidity, you've ignored that it's in the hands of the islanders now, not Cameron.
scenario8 said:
HarryW said:
What staggered me more was that Argentina was at the G20........
Why's that?Of course, discussing the 'beauty' or otherwise of the Argentine leader kind of sums up PH quite well
M.
marcosgt said:
scenario8 said:
HarryW said:
What staggered me more was that Argentina was at the G20........
Why's that?Of course, discussing the 'beauty' or otherwise of the Argentine leader kind of sums up PH quite well
M.
As opposed to the economic powerhouse that is Argentina
Argentina’s economic fiesta is over - http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/06/16/2851968/arge...
FourWheelDrift said:
Argentina’s economic fiesta is over - http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/06/16/2851968/arge...
Wonder what this sounds like...article said:
It has squandered what economists say was its biggest economic bonanza in nearly a century in giving government jobs to loyalists, cash subsidies to millions of people — many of whom now find it more convenient to live from government handouts than to find a job
CAPP0 said:
Given the sexual revulsion attached to Kirschner, how about a game of Head of State "Shag, Marry, Cliff"?
That line of inquiry is bound to end up at chicks with guns.OllieC said:
marcosgt said:
scenario8 said:
HarryW said:
What staggered me more was that Argentina was at the G20........
Why's that?Of course, discussing the 'beauty' or otherwise of the Argentine leader kind of sums up PH quite well
M.
As opposed to the economic powerhouse that is Argentina
M.
ralphrj said:
Adrian W said:
Something very odd about that BBC story, the radio report I heard this morning said that she confronted him and tried to give him a document and he refused to take it.
According to the article on the BBC it was Cameron who confronted Kirchner to tell her that he would not be discussing sovereignty with her and she should respect the islanders referendum.BBC article said:
Mr Cameron approached Ms Fernandez, and told her: "I am not proposing a full discussion now on the Falklands but I hope you have noted that they are holding a referendum and you should respect their views.
"We should believe in self determination and act as democrats here in the G20."
Aides said Mr Cameron gave a "clear and calm message" which he repeated three times as his words were interpreted into Spanish. Ms Fernandez is said to have responded with "ramblings".
Ms Fernandez then appeared to show Mr Cameron a letter which BBC political editor Nick Robinson said outlined UN Resolution 40/21 of November 1985, which requests both governments to negotiate a "peaceful" resolution to the Falklands dispute. At that point, Mr Cameron walked away.
I suspect that Cameron knew that Kirchner was planning on trying to corner him at some point during the summit and by confronting her when she wasn't expecting it he caught her off guard and pissed on her chips. "We should believe in self determination and act as democrats here in the G20."
Aides said Mr Cameron gave a "clear and calm message" which he repeated three times as his words were interpreted into Spanish. Ms Fernandez is said to have responded with "ramblings".
Ms Fernandez then appeared to show Mr Cameron a letter which BBC political editor Nick Robinson said outlined UN Resolution 40/21 of November 1985, which requests both governments to negotiate a "peaceful" resolution to the Falklands dispute. At that point, Mr Cameron walked away.
The BBC yesterday afternoon reported that Ms. Ferandez tried to give Cameron a letter, apparently containing their right to a "peaceful" negotition as outlined by a UN resolution, which he refused to accept. There was no details about a conversation except to say that there was "brief discussion". The artical seemed to infer it was her who approached him- i.e it as him on the backfoot. I read this with my own eyes.
By this morning that story had changed to "Cameron confronts Ms. Ferandez".... along with "details" of how he put her in her place, and after a brief conversation she tried to "give him a letter" which he refused to accept- i.e it was her on the backfoot. Again I read this with my own eyes.
Saddle bum said:
Everyone knows the Argie economy is up the Swanny .
Actually, what is more. REALLY more worrying are the efforts their government are making to deny ant such information being broadcast or printed. They just shut down a paper, one that had kept on reporting sometimes despite being forced underground by the junta, through the terrible period of the disappearing ones, just for publishing an independently source inflation rate. Seriously, the country is going to end up under fascist military rule again.
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