Cameron tells Kirschner to...

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bobbylondonuk

2,199 posts

191 months

Wednesday 20th June 2012
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on a side note...Hague is absolutely tearing Harperson a new one on PMQ!!!

0a

23,906 posts

195 months

Wednesday 20th June 2012
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davepoth said:
Probably closest to the truth. The thick envelope she was carrying around apparently had "Malvinas" written on it in black felt tip so it was fairly obvious what was about to go down.
Her behaviour is highly embarrassing for Argentinians at the moment, like a drunk relative at a wedding who decides they have some irrelevant point to make and insists on doing so, and everybody at the party is doing their best to ignore them.

Diplomacy by envelope-with-felt tip-pen-on-it

12gauge

1,274 posts

175 months

Wednesday 20th June 2012
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0a said:
Just nuke buenos aires - we've got the old trident to use up now anyway, it would be a shame to waste it.
Good call. Fair payback for the land mines IMO.

emicen

8,601 posts

219 months

Wednesday 20th June 2012
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tommy vercetti said:
OllieC said:
V88Dicky said:
I would.

paperbag
Makes Khloe Kardashian look beautiful
Looks like the mother alien from Mac and Me.

The Black Flash

13,735 posts

199 months

Wednesday 20th June 2012
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I think that playing the "it's up to them game" is a bit weak tbh. It's all very clever-clever and democratic-looking, but ultimately, saying "well it's not my fault gov". Childish.

Better would be "it's part of the UK, that is un-negotiable. If you so much as think of invading again we will respond with extreme military force. But we really would prefer not to sink any more of your ships. Now good day."

Jasandjules

70,012 posts

230 months

Wednesday 20th June 2012
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The Islanders want to be British. That's it.

Mr_B

10,480 posts

244 months

Wednesday 20th June 2012
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thinfourth2 said:
skinley said:
thinfourth2 said:
give it 3 months and he will hand them over to Argentina
What makes you say that?
As Cameron is fking useless

If he folds because of a few fat folk want cheap pasties then what chance have the falklands got when an entire country wants Cameron t change his mind
Can we come back to this in 3 months and quote you, or maybe even 10 years ?
Just to add to the stupidity, you've ignored that it's in the hands of the islanders now, not Cameron.

Marf

22,907 posts

242 months

Wednesday 20th June 2012
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Mr_B said:
Can we come back to this in 3 months and quote you, or maybe even 10 years ?
Can we just ignore his controversial asinine nonsense instead?

marcosgt

11,033 posts

177 months

Wednesday 20th June 2012
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scenario8 said:
HarryW said:
What staggered me more was that Argentina was at the G20........
Why's that?
Because he's unable to grasp that power is slipping from the bankrupt West...

Of course, discussing the 'beauty' or otherwise of the Argentine leader kind of sums up PH quite well biggrin

M.


OllieC

3,816 posts

215 months

Wednesday 20th June 2012
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marcosgt said:
scenario8 said:
HarryW said:
What staggered me more was that Argentina was at the G20........
Why's that?
Because he's unable to grasp that power is slipping from the bankrupt West...

Of course, discussing the 'beauty' or otherwise of the Argentine leader kind of sums up PH quite well biggrin

M.

As opposed to the economic powerhouse that is Argentina

V88Dicky

7,307 posts

184 months

Wednesday 20th June 2012
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OllieC said:
Pah. I've done worse, in my bad old days. biggrin

FourWheelDrift

88,688 posts

285 months

Wednesday 20th June 2012
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Argentina’s economic fiesta is over - http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/06/16/2851968/arge...

Asterix

24,438 posts

229 months

Wednesday 20th June 2012
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FourWheelDrift said:
Argentina’s economic fiesta is over - http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/06/16/2851968/arge...
Wonder what this sounds like...

article said:
It has squandered what economists say was its biggest economic bonanza in nearly a century in giving government jobs to loyalists, cash subsidies to millions of people — many of whom now find it more convenient to live from government handouts than to find a job

FourWheelDrift

88,688 posts

285 months

Wednesday 20th June 2012
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Yep, buying votes to stay in power and once you start giving money out it's hard to take back without revolt.

CAPP0

19,650 posts

204 months

Wednesday 20th June 2012
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Given the sexual revulsion attached to Kirschner, how about a game of Head of State "Shag, Marry, Cliff"?

The aforementioned President of Argentina:



The German Chancellor:




Or, the (until very recently) President of Finland (steady.....)


HundredthIdiot

4,414 posts

285 months

Wednesday 20th June 2012
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CAPP0 said:
Given the sexual revulsion attached to Kirschner, how about a game of Head of State "Shag, Marry, Cliff"?
That line of inquiry is bound to end up at chicks with guns.

FourWheelDrift

88,688 posts

285 months

Wednesday 20th June 2012
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CAPP0 said:
Or, the (until very recently) President of Finland (steady.....)

That's Danny Alexander isn't it?

marcosgt

11,033 posts

177 months

Wednesday 20th June 2012
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OllieC said:
marcosgt said:
scenario8 said:
HarryW said:
What staggered me more was that Argentina was at the G20........
Why's that?
Because he's unable to grasp that power is slipping from the bankrupt West...

Of course, discussing the 'beauty' or otherwise of the Argentine leader kind of sums up PH quite well biggrin

M.

As opposed to the economic powerhouse that is Argentina
Do some research... Not Brazil, maybe, but...

M.

DarrenL

459 posts

176 months

Wednesday 20th June 2012
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ralphrj said:
Adrian W said:
Something very odd about that BBC story, the radio report I heard this morning said that she confronted him and tried to give him a document and he refused to take it.
According to the article on the BBC it was Cameron who confronted Kirchner to tell her that he would not be discussing sovereignty with her and she should respect the islanders referendum.

BBC article said:
Mr Cameron approached Ms Fernandez, and told her: "I am not proposing a full discussion now on the Falklands but I hope you have noted that they are holding a referendum and you should respect their views.

"We should believe in self determination and act as democrats here in the G20."

Aides said Mr Cameron gave a "clear and calm message" which he repeated three times as his words were interpreted into Spanish. Ms Fernandez is said to have responded with "ramblings".

Ms Fernandez then appeared to show Mr Cameron a letter which BBC political editor Nick Robinson said outlined UN Resolution 40/21 of November 1985, which requests both governments to negotiate a "peaceful" resolution to the Falklands dispute. At that point, Mr Cameron walked away.
I suspect that Cameron knew that Kirchner was planning on trying to corner him at some point during the summit and by confronting her when she wasn't expecting it he caught her off guard and pissed on her chips.
I'm afraid we have all been smacked very hard by the propaganda stick.

The BBC yesterday afternoon reported that Ms. Ferandez tried to give Cameron a letter, apparently containing their right to a "peaceful" negotition as outlined by a UN resolution, which he refused to accept. There was no details about a conversation except to say that there was "brief discussion". The artical seemed to infer it was her who approached him- i.e it as him on the backfoot. I read this with my own eyes.

By this morning that story had changed to "Cameron confronts Ms. Ferandez".... along with "details" of how he put her in her place, and after a brief conversation she tried to "give him a letter" which he refused to accept- i.e it was her on the backfoot. Again I read this with my own eyes.


Mojocvh

16,837 posts

263 months

Wednesday 20th June 2012
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Saddle bum said:
Everyone knows the Argie economy is up the Swanny .
Actually, what is more. REALLY more worrying are the efforts their government are making to deny ant such information being broadcast or printed. They just shut down a paper, one that had kept on reporting sometimes despite being forced underground by the junta, through the terrible period of the disappearing ones, just for publishing an independently source inflation rate.

Seriously, the country is going to end up under fascist military rule again.