14yo boy who raped 4yo girl let off by judge.
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I also know of another young lad that hit out at a teacher, he is only 9. They teacher went to restrain him only to be told 'you can't touch me, I will get you done for touching me' this lad is 9. And yes his parents are a bunch of f
kwits. I know this because the mother is a not too distant relation.
If a child at 9 knows that words like that will stop the hardest teacher in their tracks then the older ones certainly know a lot more. But who to blame. We as a nation have allowed and created this type of society.
I do believe the father in this case is just trying to give out the words the media want to hear. Deep down he knows that when that boy turns 18, if he still lives around the corner or even if he doesn't I can imagine this story coming about again. Dad waits 4 years for revenge attack. Think Law abiding citizen
kwits. I know this because the mother is a not too distant relation. If a child at 9 knows that words like that will stop the hardest teacher in their tracks then the older ones certainly know a lot more. But who to blame. We as a nation have allowed and created this type of society.
I do believe the father in this case is just trying to give out the words the media want to hear. Deep down he knows that when that boy turns 18, if he still lives around the corner or even if he doesn't I can imagine this story coming about again. Dad waits 4 years for revenge attack. Think Law abiding citizen
That's totally outrageous. Judges seem to come to some really thick conclusions sometimes; what qualifications, exactly, does one require to become a judge?
When I was 14 I probably watched porn most days. Most of my friends probably did too. Did any of us rape anyone? No. Nothing to do with pornography or the 'world', just a sick little fk of a kid who needs a good kicking and then locking up.
When I was 14 I probably watched porn most days. Most of my friends probably did too. Did any of us rape anyone? No. Nothing to do with pornography or the 'world', just a sick little f
k of a kid who needs a good kicking and then locking up.Edited by David87 on Thursday 5th July 19:20
Agoogy said:
But, children today are VERY different from children of yesteryear, they have access to a massive amount of information, they udnerstand the law and exploit the gaps FAR more....even the responsible parents are now limited in what they can and cannot do to control and/or discipline their children.
Can't agree with that, kids are kids like always we just hear about everything these days via the papers. I'm guessing you could track down nasty st like this from the 70's if you are whizy with the microfiche.This story beggers belief if true though ...
TX.
David87 said:
That's totally outrageous. Judges seem to come to some really thick conclusions sometimes; what qualifications, exactly, does one require to become a judge?
Traditionally either a penchant for S&M/B&D or young boys, much like priests. However paedophilia may also know be a 'hobby' of theirs as this would be the only reasonable explanation for his judgement.Under no circumstances is there ever an explanation for this persons actions. Most males watch porn, in fact I'd say a sizeable percentage of the population whack-off daily or a few times a month to internet porn. Yet events like this are extremely isolated and I'd say statistically similar to prior to the internet. So clearly the judge is wrong.
He also has a face that seems to invite punching. Whilst I'm on violence, if I was the father I'd certainly be making plans for that boy, I'd be making sure he never slept soundly for the rest of his very short life.
thehawk said:
David87 said:
That's totally outrageous. Judges seem to come to some really thick conclusions sometimes; what qualifications, exactly, does one require to become a judge?
Traditionally either a penchant for S&M/B&D or young boys, much like priests. However paedophilia may also know be a 'hobby' of theirs as this would be the only reasonable explanation for his judgement.Under no circumstances is there ever an explanation for this persons actions. Most males watch porn, in fact I'd say a sizeable percentage of the population whack-off daily or a few times a month to internet porn. Yet events like this are extremely isolated and I'd say statistically similar to prior to the internet. So clearly the judge is wrong.
He also has a face that seems to invite punching. Whilst I'm on violence, if I was the father I'd certainly be making plans for that boy, I'd be making sure he never slept soundly for the rest of his very short life.
oyster said:
Why would your friend want to 'touch' the kid in question?
In a grammar school they'd likely be expelled if they hit a teacher. In a comprehensive I'd guess the teracher would get a month off to put their feet up on full pay.
Not convinced you're right there. I worked in a private school back in the 80's which was going through difficulties in both discipline and finances. This meant that, if a kid hit you, the last thing the Head would do would be to expel the little sIn a grammar school they'd likely be expelled if they hit a teacher. In a comprehensive I'd guess the teracher would get a month off to put their feet up on full pay.
t. Simple decision for him really, the fees for one kid were roughly equivalent to the wages of one teacher (and that's still the case). So, reasons were always found to defend the kid's actions - you must have provoked him etc.Consequently, the teachers were unable to do anything about discipline because the Head simply denied the problem. Remember this is the mid eighties, so jumping jobs quickly and easily wasn't an option. I'm not proud of it, but my solution was measured retribution - if a kid tried it on with me I'd bide my time, wait until the coast was clear and wallop the little f
ker. Oddly enough, they all accepted their lumps and never complained - it was a different time and it all seemed to be part of the game. But I wouldn't dream of acting that way these days, you simply couldn't get away with it. Anyway, my point is that fee paying schools are more likely to hang on to awkward kids, they're worth too much money.
Non fee paying grammars are in a perfect position to take advantage of this, though, they can expel with impunity knowing that the Comp down the road will get their cast offs. It's one of the reasons why some Comps suffer discipline problems, they get the kids no one else will take. In any area without Grammar schools there's always the "good" Comp, which runs more like a middle class Grammar, and then there'll be the slutch Comps that work like Secondary Moderns. Guess which ones the awkward kids end up in?
The last teacher I knew to get hit in a Comp, suffered a broken cheek bone and was off work for months - lazy beggar. The "kid" who hit her was over six foot, she's 5'2".
Terminator X said:
Agoogy said:
But, children today are VERY different from children of yesteryear, they have access to a massive amount of information, they udnerstand the law and exploit the gaps FAR more....even the responsible parents are now limited in what they can and cannot do to control and/or discipline their children.
Can't agree with that, kids are kids like always we just hear about everything these days via the papers. I'm guessing you could track down nasty st like this from the 70's if you are whizy with the microfiche.This story beggers belief if true though ...
TX.
My generation didn't have mobile devices, didn't have the internet...porn for me was happening across a mag in the woods...
Also the teachers were 'allowed' to issue real contact punishment...even if the hardcore weren't afraid, it certainly disuaded the majority, whereas the majority today 'know their rights'....times have changed....fact.
Without trying to trivialse this crime or taking away the trauma the child and family suffered can I point out that iirc "rape" in this case was not penatrive but oral rape.
One wonders what long term damage this whole mess will have on the child. She'll always know "something happened" to her when she was young and the police came round: "mum was upset dad was angry, then I had these people come and talk to me, and we had to go to the doctors a lot. Also, that boy never came round or talked to me again, and still I didn't get any chocolate."
I can imagine that if he got away with it tjis time would've progressed into a much more serious assault.
One wonders what long term damage this whole mess will have on the child. She'll always know "something happened" to her when she was young and the police came round: "mum was upset dad was angry, then I had these people come and talk to me, and we had to go to the doctors a lot. Also, that boy never came round or talked to me again, and still I didn't get any chocolate."
I can imagine that if he got away with it tjis time would've progressed into a much more serious assault.
TheHeretic said:
Well, can we not compare the crime rates since say, the 60's, to now, and see if there is a correlation with teachers not beating kids?
You could.... but if the results did not conform to the "liberal" view you'd be accused of putting forward a post hoc fallacy. Happens every time capital punishment is debated too
TheHeretic said:
What on earth does that have to do with anything?
Do bear in mind that this is the same FrankyH who started the immigration thread recommending that the we repatriate immigrants and claiming that White Britons are facing genocide in the UK.I think he/she is probably a troll trying to find out how many people he/she can get to agree with his/her extreme statements. Quite a few by the look of the immigration discussion,
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