Teen girl punched to the ground ..
Discussion
AJS- said:
I am prepared to bet that if they ever do catch this f
king animal then you'll find that he has a string of previous convictions for violence, and that after going to court he will get community service and a fine that will be paid out of his benefits at a rate of 50p a week.
I'm prepared to take that bet.king animal then you'll find that he has a string of previous convictions for violence, and that after going to court he will get community service and a fine that will be paid out of his benefits at a rate of 50p a week. Strange how Schizophrenia is being linked by PHs - probably because when a 'Schizo' is involved it gets wide media coverage, so when something like this outrageous act occurs, he must be a Schizo.
The act was so brutal and gratuitous that it goes beyond 'normal' so must be something else: ie 'mental'.
The truth is people with schizophrenia are far more likely to harm themselves than be violent toward the Jo Public.
Violence is not a symptom of schizophrenia.
News and entertainment media tend to link mental illnesses including schizophrenia to criminal violence. Most people with schizophrenia, however, are not violent toward others but are withdrawn and prefer to be left alone.
However... drug or alcohol abuse raises the risk of violence in people with schizophrenia, particularly if the illness is untreated. BUT this also happens, as we well know, in people who have 'no' mental illness.
When violence does occur, it is most frequently targeted at family members and friends, and more often takes place at home.
Substance abuse (i.e. street drugs and alcohol) significantly raises the rate of violence in people with schizophrenia.
Again, as is also the case with people who do 'not' have any mental illness.
My view is that this guy is simply violent. Full stop. He appears calm and collected, knowing exactly what he intended. Bet he has previous. Thanks to do-gooders these creatures walk the streets. Didn't used to be like this.
The police will give the usual response... 'these incidents are extremely rare'. So they f.... should be!
Perhaps if we locked them up instead of the kids glove treatment? I don't blame the police, how can you with their hands tied.
The problem today is we know there are people like this but the pc and do-gooders want us to help them.
The lunatics now run the asylum.
The act was so brutal and gratuitous that it goes beyond 'normal' so must be something else: ie 'mental'.
The truth is people with schizophrenia are far more likely to harm themselves than be violent toward the Jo Public.
Violence is not a symptom of schizophrenia.
News and entertainment media tend to link mental illnesses including schizophrenia to criminal violence. Most people with schizophrenia, however, are not violent toward others but are withdrawn and prefer to be left alone.
However... drug or alcohol abuse raises the risk of violence in people with schizophrenia, particularly if the illness is untreated. BUT this also happens, as we well know, in people who have 'no' mental illness.
When violence does occur, it is most frequently targeted at family members and friends, and more often takes place at home.
Substance abuse (i.e. street drugs and alcohol) significantly raises the rate of violence in people with schizophrenia.
Again, as is also the case with people who do 'not' have any mental illness.
My view is that this guy is simply violent. Full stop. He appears calm and collected, knowing exactly what he intended. Bet he has previous. Thanks to do-gooders these creatures walk the streets. Didn't used to be like this.
The police will give the usual response... 'these incidents are extremely rare'. So they f.... should be!
Perhaps if we locked them up instead of the kids glove treatment? I don't blame the police, how can you with their hands tied.
The problem today is we know there are people like this but the pc and do-gooders want us to help them.
The lunatics now run the asylum.
Edited by dandarez on Wednesday 21st November 12:45
dandarez said:
Strange how Schizophrenia is being linked by PHs - probably because when a 'Schizo' is involved it gets wide media coverage, so when something like this outrageous act occurs, he must be a Schizo.
The act was so brutal and gratuitous that it goes beyond 'normal' so must be something else: ie 'mental'.
The truth is people with schizophrenia are far more likely to harm themselves than be violent toward the Jo Public.
Violence is not a symptom of schizophrenia.
News and entertainment media tend to link mental illnesses including schizophrenia to criminal violence. Most people with schizophrenia, however, are not violent toward others but are withdrawn and prefer to be left alone.
However... drug or alcohol abuse raises the risk of violence in people with schizophrenia, particularly if the illness is untreated. BUT this also happens, as we well know, in people who have 'no' mental illness.
When violence does occur, it is most frequently targeted at family members and friends, and more often takes place at home.
Substance abuse (i.e. street drugs and alcohol) significantly raises the rate of violence in people with schizophrenia.
Again, as is also the case with people who do 'not' have any mental illness.
My view is that this guy is simply violent. Full stop. He appears calm and collected, knowing exactly what he intended. Bet he has previous. Thanks to do-gooders these creatures walk the streets. Didn't used to be like this.
The police will give the usual response... 'these incidents are extremely rare'. So they f.... should be!
Perhaps if we locked them up instead of the kids glove treatment? I don't blame the police, how can you with their hands tied.
The problem today is we know there are people like this but the pc and do-gooders want us to help them.
The lunatics now run the asylum.
And in the mean time we jail people for swimming in the Thames or posting nasty things on Facebook.The act was so brutal and gratuitous that it goes beyond 'normal' so must be something else: ie 'mental'.
The truth is people with schizophrenia are far more likely to harm themselves than be violent toward the Jo Public.
Violence is not a symptom of schizophrenia.
News and entertainment media tend to link mental illnesses including schizophrenia to criminal violence. Most people with schizophrenia, however, are not violent toward others but are withdrawn and prefer to be left alone.
However... drug or alcohol abuse raises the risk of violence in people with schizophrenia, particularly if the illness is untreated. BUT this also happens, as we well know, in people who have 'no' mental illness.
When violence does occur, it is most frequently targeted at family members and friends, and more often takes place at home.
Substance abuse (i.e. street drugs and alcohol) significantly raises the rate of violence in people with schizophrenia.
Again, as is also the case with people who do 'not' have any mental illness.
My view is that this guy is simply violent. Full stop. He appears calm and collected, knowing exactly what he intended. Bet he has previous. Thanks to do-gooders these creatures walk the streets. Didn't used to be like this.
The police will give the usual response... 'these incidents are extremely rare'. So they f.... should be!
Perhaps if we locked them up instead of the kids glove treatment? I don't blame the police, how can you with their hands tied.
The problem today is we know there are people like this but the pc and do-gooders want us to help them.
The lunatics now run the asylum.
Edited by dandarez on Wednesday 21st November 12:45
Pothole do you feel obliged to disagree with everyone?
Firstly I am calm, secondly where I live is missing the point. It's not that "people seem to be more ready to escalate situations to violence more readily", its the level and type of violence, gone are the days when people have round of fisty-cuffs to resolve a difference, now seems the job is not done until a ko is achieved, and then often a few more hoofs to the head for good measure to ensure the person aint getting up in a hurry, horrific. Maybe it's always been this way, maybe it is just that reporting has changed, but I didn't witness any of this stuff in my younger days of pubbing/clubbing.
Firstly I am calm, secondly where I live is missing the point. It's not that "people seem to be more ready to escalate situations to violence more readily", its the level and type of violence, gone are the days when people have round of fisty-cuffs to resolve a difference, now seems the job is not done until a ko is achieved, and then often a few more hoofs to the head for good measure to ensure the person aint getting up in a hurry, horrific. Maybe it's always been this way, maybe it is just that reporting has changed, but I didn't witness any of this stuff in my younger days of pubbing/clubbing.
dandarez said:
Strange how Schizophrenia is being linked by PHs - probably because when a 'Schizo' is involved it gets wide media coverage, so when something like this outrageous act occurs, he must be a Schizo.
The act was so brutal and gratuitous that it goes beyond 'normal' so must be something else: ie 'mental'.
The truth is people with schizophrenia are far more likely to harm themselves than be violent toward the Jo Public.
Violence is not a symptom of schizophrenia.
News and entertainment media tend to link mental illnesses including schizophrenia to criminal violence. Most people with schizophrenia, however, are not violent toward others but are withdrawn and prefer to be left alone.
However... drug or alcohol abuse raises the risk of violence in people with schizophrenia, particularly if the illness is untreated. BUT this also happens, as we well know, in people who have 'no' mental illness.
When violence does occur, it is most frequently targeted at family members and friends, and more often takes place at home.
Substance abuse (i.e. street drugs and alcohol) significantly raises the rate of violence in people with schizophrenia.
Again, as is also the case with people who do 'not' have any mental illness.
My view is that this guy is simply violent. Full stop. He appears calm and collected, knowing exactly what he intended. Bet he has previous. Thanks to do-gooders these creatures walk the streets. Didn't used to be like this.
The police will give the usual response... 'these incidents are extremely rare'. So they f.... should be!
Perhaps if we locked them up instead of the kids glove treatment? I don't blame the police, how can you with their hands tied.
The problem today is we know there are people like this but the pc and do-gooders want us to help them.
The lunatics now run the asylum.
You're right about the likelihood but it DOES still happen. We're unlikely to win the lottery, but someone still does. The principal diagnostic symptoms of Schizophrenia are inability to differentiate real from not real, a lack of empathy, and paranoia, amongst other things. In most cases this results in withdrawal but not always. The combination of those symptoms can also lead to fully unprovoked violent responses in rare cases. The act was so brutal and gratuitous that it goes beyond 'normal' so must be something else: ie 'mental'.
The truth is people with schizophrenia are far more likely to harm themselves than be violent toward the Jo Public.
Violence is not a symptom of schizophrenia.
News and entertainment media tend to link mental illnesses including schizophrenia to criminal violence. Most people with schizophrenia, however, are not violent toward others but are withdrawn and prefer to be left alone.
However... drug or alcohol abuse raises the risk of violence in people with schizophrenia, particularly if the illness is untreated. BUT this also happens, as we well know, in people who have 'no' mental illness.
When violence does occur, it is most frequently targeted at family members and friends, and more often takes place at home.
Substance abuse (i.e. street drugs and alcohol) significantly raises the rate of violence in people with schizophrenia.
Again, as is also the case with people who do 'not' have any mental illness.
My view is that this guy is simply violent. Full stop. He appears calm and collected, knowing exactly what he intended. Bet he has previous. Thanks to do-gooders these creatures walk the streets. Didn't used to be like this.
The police will give the usual response... 'these incidents are extremely rare'. So they f.... should be!
Perhaps if we locked them up instead of the kids glove treatment? I don't blame the police, how can you with their hands tied.
The problem today is we know there are people like this but the pc and do-gooders want us to help them.
The lunatics now run the asylum.
Edited by dandarez on Wednesday 21st November 12:45
As you say the person appears calm and collected, which for me suggests a mental illness causation rather than one of intoxication.
E.g.
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/psychiatric-p...
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/330364/Ex-ment...
Etc.
Poor girl. 
Had the same kind of scum do this to me when I was about 15.
Walking home from school through a park, two chavs looking well 'ard
were walking towards me. You knew they were asking for trouble as they were staring at me from a distance.
As they walked up the path towards me I calmly walked past them dodging their attempt to barge into me. They didn't like the fact I dodged their excuse to have a fight by walking on the grass one of them booted me extremely hard in the upper leg, the other pushed me over and they swore at me laughing whilst walking away. Utter scum; I was really shook up whilst limping back home they kicked so hard. I couldn't fight back because it was hard to just stand let alone fight. A completely unprevoked attack.
I later found out these two are notorious that come from a "difficult background" and were expelled from several schools and are probably in prison right now. I hope they, along with this man die a horrid death.
Had the same kind of scum do this to me when I was about 15.
Walking home from school through a park, two chavs looking well 'ard
were walking towards me. You knew they were asking for trouble as they were staring at me from a distance. As they walked up the path towards me I calmly walked past them dodging their attempt to barge into me. They didn't like the fact I dodged their excuse to have a fight by walking on the grass one of them booted me extremely hard in the upper leg, the other pushed me over and they swore at me laughing whilst walking away. Utter scum; I was really shook up whilst limping back home they kicked so hard. I couldn't fight back because it was hard to just stand let alone fight. A completely unprevoked attack.
I later found out these two are notorious
that come from a "difficult background" and were expelled from several schools and are probably in prison right now. I hope they, along with this man die a horrid death.Edited by Anubis on Wednesday 21st November 14:57
Anubis said:
Poor girl.
Had the same kind of scum do this to me when I was about 15.
Walking home from school through a park, two chavs looking well 'ard were walking towards me. You knew they were asking for trouble as they were staring at me from a distance.
As they walked up the path towards me I calmly walked past them dodging their attempt to barge into me. They didn't like the fact I dodged their excuse to have a fight by walking on the grass one of them booted me extremely hard in the upper leg, the other pushed me over and they swore at me laughing whilst walking away. Utter scum; I was really shook up whilst limping back home they kicked so hard. I couldn't fight back because it was hard to just stand let alone fight. A completely unprevoked attack.
I later found out these two are notorious that come from a "difficult background" and were expelled from several schools and are probably in prison right now. I hope they, along with this man die a horrid death.
One thing you have to ask though is what sort of abusive childhoods these people live through to turn out like the scumbags you describe.Had the same kind of scum do this to me when I was about 15.
Walking home from school through a park, two chavs looking well 'ard
were walking towards me. You knew they were asking for trouble as they were staring at me from a distance. As they walked up the path towards me I calmly walked past them dodging their attempt to barge into me. They didn't like the fact I dodged their excuse to have a fight by walking on the grass one of them booted me extremely hard in the upper leg, the other pushed me over and they swore at me laughing whilst walking away. Utter scum; I was really shook up whilst limping back home they kicked so hard. I couldn't fight back because it was hard to just stand let alone fight. A completely unprevoked attack.
I later found out these two are notorious
that come from a "difficult background" and were expelled from several schools and are probably in prison right now. I hope they, along with this man die a horrid death.Edited by Anubis on Wednesday 21st November 14:57
ShampooEfficient said:
rhinochopig said:
One thing you have to ask though is what sort of abusive childhoods these people live through to turn out like the scumbags you describe.
Plenty of people have awful childhoods and turn out OK.A bloke that works for me lives just up the road from where this happened.
An earlier poster alluded to initiation stuff and this does happen. Apparently a couple of years ago in this area a car would drive around at night without lights, if you were unfortunate enough to notice this and flash them a warning they would follow you, drag you out of the car and beat you to a pulp, man or woman. It was supposed to have been a gang initiation thing.
It's not their fault though the poor lambs. If they catch this poor, deprived young gentleman I shall start up a fund-raiser for him on PH.
An earlier poster alluded to initiation stuff and this does happen. Apparently a couple of years ago in this area a car would drive around at night without lights, if you were unfortunate enough to notice this and flash them a warning they would follow you, drag you out of the car and beat you to a pulp, man or woman. It was supposed to have been a gang initiation thing.
It's not their fault though the poor lambs. If they catch this poor, deprived young gentleman I shall start up a fund-raiser for him on PH.
Starfighter said:
How can this be anything other than GBH with intent?
It wouldn't be far off attempted murder in my book. There's a lot of people die by smacking their head on the pavement after a punch like that, and someone who was totally unaware it was coming is a likely candidate.br d said:
A bloke that works for me lives just up the road from where this happened.
An earlier poster alluded to initiation stuff and this does happen. Apparently a couple of years ago in this area a car would drive around at night without lights, if you were unfortunate enough to notice this and flash them a warning they would follow you, drag you out of the car and beat you to a pulp, man or woman. It was supposed to have been a gang initiation thing.
It's not their fault though the poor lambs. If they catch this poor, deprived young gentleman I shall start up a fund-raiser for him on PH.
I've heard that one alot on the internet, and from any country too.. Hmm.An earlier poster alluded to initiation stuff and this does happen. Apparently a couple of years ago in this area a car would drive around at night without lights, if you were unfortunate enough to notice this and flash them a warning they would follow you, drag you out of the car and beat you to a pulp, man or woman. It was supposed to have been a gang initiation thing.
It's not their fault though the poor lambs. If they catch this poor, deprived young gentleman I shall start up a fund-raiser for him on PH.
http://www.snopes.com/crime/gangs/lightsout.asp
First mentioned in 1993, impressive.
JonnyFive said:
br d said:
A bloke that works for me lives just up the road from where this happened.
An earlier poster alluded to initiation stuff and this does happen. Apparently a couple of years ago in this area a car would drive around at night without lights, if you were unfortunate enough to notice this and flash them a warning they would follow you, drag you out of the car and beat you to a pulp, man or woman. It was supposed to have been a gang initiation thing.
It's not their fault though the poor lambs. If they catch this poor, deprived young gentleman I shall start up a fund-raiser for him on PH.
I've heard that one alot on the internet, and from any country too.. Hmm.An earlier poster alluded to initiation stuff and this does happen. Apparently a couple of years ago in this area a car would drive around at night without lights, if you were unfortunate enough to notice this and flash them a warning they would follow you, drag you out of the car and beat you to a pulp, man or woman. It was supposed to have been a gang initiation thing.
It's not their fault though the poor lambs. If they catch this poor, deprived young gentleman I shall start up a fund-raiser for him on PH.
Truly horrible piece of footage, I suspect there is some hitherto-unrevealed "provocation" down the road somewhere. He didn't even bother looking back. Dyed in the wool scum.
She's very lucky that a punch of that force didn't break her jaw. Just watching her motionless on the pavement is sickening.
She's very lucky that a punch of that force didn't break her jaw. Just watching her motionless on the pavement is sickening.
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