Pakistan school Attack
Discussion
ds...Adrian W said:
These brave fighters shoot children yet we worry about torturing terrorists and the moral high ground.
Don't you think we should be leading by example though? Especially if we want to be policing the world. How does it look when we interfere in another country, accusing regimes of crimes against humanity, when we are committing some of our own? Besides, a not insignificant proportion of those "terrorists" we tortured turned out to be innocent. How does that sit with you?
CamMoreRon said:
Adrian W said:
These brave fighters shoot children yet we worry about torturing terrorists and the moral high ground.
Don't you think we should be leading by example though? Especially if we want to be policing the world. How does it look when we interfere in another country, accusing regimes of crimes against humanity, when we are committing some of our own? Besides, a not insignificant proportion of those "terrorists" we tortured turned out to be innocent. How does that sit with you?
I am pretty sure that the government people do not just pull random people off the street on the off chance.
Completely different.
onyx39 said:
How can you compare pulling out someone's finger nails to stop a terrorist attack to opening up on school children with automatic weapons.
I am pretty sure that the government people do not just pull random people off the street on the off chance.
Completely different.
20% of those interrogated were allegedly completely innocent. That certainly doesn't sit right with me.I am pretty sure that the government people do not just pull random people off the street on the off chance.
Completely different.
This attack is abhorrent. As with any of these attacks, religion has very little to do with it - it's just a banner that people think excuses them from the horrible things they do. As has been rightly said, the victims are also Muslim.
onyx39 said:
Taliban spokesman said " Our suicide bombers have entered the school, they have instructions not to harm the children, but to target the army personnel"
So, it was an accident then.
Death toll now at 126 apparently.
It's all a bit odd, mixed reports.So, it was an accident then.
Death toll now at 126 apparently.
A witness claimed they burst into the classrooms firing indiscriminately.
Rogue86 said:
onyx39 said:
How can you compare pulling out someone's finger nails to stop a terrorist attack to opening up on school children with automatic weapons.
I am pretty sure that the government people do not just pull random people off the street on the off chance.
Completely different.
20% of those interrogated were allegedly completely innocent. That certainly doesn't sit right with me.I am pretty sure that the government people do not just pull random people off the street on the off chance.
Completely different.
This attack is abhorrent. As with any of these attacks, religion has very little to do with it - it's just a banner that people think excuses them from the horrible things they do. As has been rightly said, the victims are also Muslim.
Equally, if what these government organisations do allows me to sleep safely in bed, ill take it.
Rogue86 said:
onyx39 said:
How can you compare pulling out someone's finger nails to stop a terrorist attack to opening up on school children with automatic weapons.
I am pretty sure that the government people do not just pull random people off the street on the off chance.
Completely different.
20% of those interrogated were allegedly completely innocent. That certainly doesn't sit right with me.I am pretty sure that the government people do not just pull random people off the street on the off chance.
Completely different.
This attack is abhorrent. As with any of these attacks, religion has very little to do with it - it's just a banner that people think excuses them from the horrible things they do. As has been rightly said, the victims are also Muslim.
How would you feel if you were bagged up and bundled off by the CIA tomorrow, then detained and questioned for a year of your life while subject to confinement in a wooden box barely big enough for your to fit inside, waterboarded, and have food and drink pumped up your a**e? Would you be angry about it? Would you feel an injustice? Or would you shrug and say "Well I suppose my suffering was necessary for the greater good!" How would your friends feel about it.. or your family? Would they want justice?
Not that this attack was in any way, shape, or form, related to the CIA or indeed the West. This is a conflict between two factions of Islam that has been going on for millennia. Let's not forget that Christianity has also had its fair share of those..
CamMoreRon said:
Quite.
How would you feel if you were bagged up and bundled off by the CIA tomorrow, then detained and questioned for a year of your life while subject to confinement in a wooden box barely big enough for your to fit inside, waterboarded, and have food and drink pumped up your a**e? Would you be angry about it? Would you feel an injustice? Or would you shrug and say "Well I suppose my suffering was necessary for the greater good!" How would your friends feel about it.. or your family? Would they want justice?
Not that this attack was in any way, shape, or form, related to the CIA or indeed the West. This is a conflict between two factions of Islam that has been going on for millennia. Let's not forget that Christianity has also had its fair share of those..
WTF has the history of Christianity got to do with it? You really are the champion of whataboutism.How would you feel if you were bagged up and bundled off by the CIA tomorrow, then detained and questioned for a year of your life while subject to confinement in a wooden box barely big enough for your to fit inside, waterboarded, and have food and drink pumped up your a**e? Would you be angry about it? Would you feel an injustice? Or would you shrug and say "Well I suppose my suffering was necessary for the greater good!" How would your friends feel about it.. or your family? Would they want justice?
Not that this attack was in any way, shape, or form, related to the CIA or indeed the West. This is a conflict between two factions of Islam that has been going on for millennia. Let's not forget that Christianity has also had its fair share of those..
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